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Januzaj scored against Villa, moved to Germany for 4 months, returned to United and still has more goals in the Premier League than Hazard.
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Hernandez reveals the reason behind his Manchester United struggles

Goal.com - 07 January 2016

Javier Hernandez says his tag as a ‘super sub’ was the main cause of his Manchester United woes – and is now benefiting from a prolonged run in the first team at Bayer Leverkusen.
The Mexico star started just 12 league matches for the Red Devils going back to the 2012-13 season, with the majority of his appearances for the club coming off the bench.
But he has since been handed a starting spot in Leverkusen’s side and has reaped the rewards, scoring 19 goals in all competitions – while only three players have netted more times in the Bundesliga.
And Hernandez says his increased pitch time – he has made 12 league starts this term, more than in any season since 2011-12 – is the key to his upturn in form.
"What I was missing in the last two or three years, it was like I was playing sometimes and then returning to the bench," Hernandez told the Orlando Sentinel.

"But now that I am playing most of the game or almost all of my games here in my club, that's what I need.
"Because people sometimes think the confidence is with goals, but I don't think like that. I think confidence is to play day-by-day, to get rhythm."
Hernandez is currently enjoying the Bundesliga winter break, having scored in Leverkusen’s last outing against Ingolstadt, and will return to action against Hoffenheim at the end of January.
 
Having Ighalo would be good, 14 premier league goals this season so far and he has a quite good all round game. I think this is one of the better signings we could make in January.
 
They do have to buy somebody, because I don't think this thin squad can handle fixture congestion once the Europa League starts.
 
Tyton said:
They do have to buy somebody, because I don't think this thin squad can handle fixture congestion once the Europa League starts.
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If our real plan for January was recalling Januzaj and Will Keane to solve our problems for second half of season I am literally lost for words.
 
zzeezzy said:
If our real plan for January was recalling Januzaj and Will Keane to solve our problems for second half of season I am literally lost for words.
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Hold your doomsday talk until after January.
 
Puddz said:
Hold your doomsday talk until after January.
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He's not wrong though, is he? The form seems to have improved a bit once most of the key players are healthy again. But the club needs to invest this window, and in a first team starter too. That is, as long as the goal for this season is still to win something, not to battle for Wenger trophy until last day of the season.
 
Tyton said:
He's not wrong though, is he? The form seems to have improved a bit once most of the key players are healthy again. But the club needs to invest this window, and in a first team starter too. That is, as long as the goal for this season is still to win something, not to battle for Wenger trophy until last day of the season.
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Even though I totally agree with you here, isn't it ridiculous to say this after spending 250M pounds in two summers? :D
With 250M pounds spent even a club like Aston Villa would challange for the title...
 
razielioux said:
Even though I totally agree with you here, isn't it ridiculous to say this after spending 250M pounds in two summers? :D
With 250M pounds spent even a club like Aston Villa would challange for the title...
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Not really. It's not black and white when it comes to transfers. That 250M also includes the price of Di Maria who isn't at club anymore. Also other clubs added to their existing squad whereas ManUtd got almost a new squad. They have changed the squad completely and it's still a work in progress.
 
sunilvk7 said:
Not really. It's not black and white when it comes to transfers. That 250M also includes the price of Di Maria who isn't at club anymore. Also other clubs added to their existing squad whereas ManUtd got almost a new squad. They have changed the squad completely and it's still a work in progress.
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Yeah, this. Fixating on the money he spend is pointless. You have to take into account who was offloaded, and the amount of players that needed replacing.

Another thing is, he doesn't actually have a genuine transfer flop yet. Just about every player he bought so far has added something important to the squad.
 
Tyton said:
..... Another thing is, he doesn't actually have a genuine transfer flop yet. Just about every player he bought so far has added something important to the squad.
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A £15 million or so loss on Di Maria in 11 months, with all his salary and poor on field return doesn't qualify as a 'genuine transfer flop' to you?

Regardless of why it's perceived he left, that's a major bust however you cut it.

*Edit* Forgot Falcao too. That was a HIGHLY expensive flop. Ta zz. I'd hold off on Depay for another season all things considered. But it certainly hasn't been a glowing start.
 
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Tyton said:
Yeah, this. Fixating on the money he spend is pointless. You have to take into account who was offloaded, and the amount of players that needed replacing.

Another thing is, he doesn't actually have a genuine transfer flop yet. Just about every player he bought so far has added something important to the squad.
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I'd class at this point Depay a flop as quite frankly he has been atrocious considering the hype around him and some of the mistakes he has made in games.

But the main one is Falcao, loan move or not that turned out terrible. United need to plan more with their transfers, that's my biggest gripe with them, I think they done better last summer but still a big question around it. Was their plan really to go big and rely on a young sensation at the end of the window to solve all our attacking issues? Selling Chicharito, Nani, RVP, Di Maria, Falcao (however bad they were), loaning out Wilson and then expecting Martial/Depay in that window as the only attack orientated transfer signings to solve them areas was never going to work. All in all, there is still definite question marks around our transfer strategy ever since Fergie left, possibly even in his last few seasons as well.

I think we're paying for our mistakes once again this season from the summer transfer window because it was clear from the start of last summer we needed a CB and striker. Still very much evident now.
 
zzeezzy said:
I'd class at this point Depay a flop as quite frankly he has been atrocious considering the hype around him and some of the mistakes he has made in games.

But the main one is Falcao, loan move or not that turned out terrible. United need to plan more with their transfers, that's my biggest gripe with them, I think they done better last summer but still a big question around it. Was their plan really to go big and rely on a young sensation at the end of the window to solve all our attacking issues? Selling Chicharito, Nani, RVP, Di Maria, Falcao (however bad they were), loaning out Wilson and then expecting Martial/Depay in that window as the only attack orientated transfer signings to solve them areas was never going to work. All in all, there is still definite question marks around our transfer strategy ever since Fergie left, possibly even in his last few seasons as well.

I think we're paying for our mistakes once again this season from the summer transfer window because it was clear from the start of last summer we needed a CB and striker. Still very much evident now.
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Underwhelming, sure, but a "flop" after six months is far-fetched. He hasn't even had a full season at the club.

That tag is often reserved for players have been consistently bad for much longer than half a year.
 
Scouseinthehouse said:
A £15 million or so loss on Di Maria in 11 months, with all his salary and poor on field return doesn't qualify as a 'genuine transfer flop' to you?

Regardless of why it's perceived he left, that's a major bust however you cut it.

*Edit* Forgot Falcao too. That was a HIGHLY expensive flop. Ta zz. I'd hold off on Depay for another season all things considered. But it certainly hasn't been a glowing start.
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Funny how wages are considered for few deals and not for others.

Depay is one for the future and he has plenty of time to prove his worth.
 
Scouseinthehouse said:
A £15 million or so loss on Di Maria in 11 months, with all his salary and poor on field return doesn't qualify as a 'genuine transfer flop' to you?

Regardless of why it's perceived he left, that's a major bust however you cut it.
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Flop is a transfer were player turns out **** or doesn't fit team the team. How is that a flop when obviously fantastic footballer loses the drive to play after being robbed in his own house?

Scouseinthehouse said:
*Edit* Forgot Falcao too. That was a HIGHLY expensive flop.
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Falcao was a loan. I said no transfer flops. And it wasn't that expensive, I'd rate it at about 1/4 Andy Carrols.
 
Tyton said:
Flop is a transfer were player turns out **** or doesn't fit team the team. How is that a flop when obviously fantastic footballer loses the drive to play after being robbed in his own house?



Falcao was a loan. I said no transfer flops.
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Guess we view this completely differently.

To me, bottom line, £59 million to £44 million in 11 months with next to no return on the field. Doesn't matter if a Government hit squad from Buenos Aires marched him onto a plane at gunpoint out of Manchester in the dead of night; that will go down as a massive flop.

Falcao cost a **** load financially, loan or not, for zero return. Loan or not, it's another big transfer failure.
 
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