And my point is that during his Bayern stint, they seem to have taken their eye off the ball and let City snag him instead of pursuing him and doing everything possible to ensure his next destination was United which is what City did. He is a perfect fit for the way United and their fans want the club to be run so it is definitely a failure to have let City get him
Must-win at Chelsea tomorrow back on a more related topic to have any salvaging hope of top 4 I think, especially if Spurs win today which looks likely. We'll be 8 points behind with that game in hand against Chelsea tomorrow, if we lose I can't see us getting top 4, I'm struggling to see it even when we're just 5 points behind.
It's not a case of taking the eye off the ball. They already knew they were out of the race for Pep, have done for a long long time. The only failure was not to have more alternatives lined up
Still got to play the teams above us, and they each other so it's not as clear cut.
Because reputable sources such as Ballague have gone on record stating that Chelsea and City were trying very hard for him. The media chatter has always been how Ambramovich has been such a huge fan of Pep from the start as well. Also Mike confirmed that United were refused at the first approach
If you are only willing to accept football-related information from someone who has primary knowledge then you might as well not even be on this forum. Everything we discusss is the information we get from journalists and other media outlets. None of us knows anything for sure. We just discusss with whats reported. For all I know, United could have gone crazy for Pep and offered him the keys to the city but if you can find one reputable journalist who wrote that then you are amazing. The fact is that its been reported for 4-5 years now by nearly everyone that Chelsea tried extremely hard to get Pep and City did as well. Very little was said about United chasing him to that extent.
Why is there so much fuss? Because he would have been the perfect fit at Old Trafford. Losing him to City should be seen as a failure at the executive level. And Woodward as CEO has to shoulder blame even if it was not 100% his fault. Now you are forced to get off your moral high horse and hire Mourinho whom you guys turnes your nose up at earlier. Its funny how morals and principles flew out the door when the club started to lose
If what you say is true, then its very strange Woodward decided to essentially throw a Hail Mary and still make an approach when the pressure was building for Van Gaal to go
If you want to understand Woodward: we bid 145m for Neymar.
If you want to understand Woodward: we bid 145m for Neymar.
If you want to understand Woodward: we bid 145m for Neymar.
This galactico style he idolises won't work at United, it hardly works at Madrid given their lack of success through doing it, it's a silly approach to want the club to have unless you only care about commercial/marketing more than the football, which is why he idolises this vision.
Same ballague who said we made down payment for Falcao (whatever that means). Also I haven't seen anything concrete about Chelsea offers, just a chit chat here and there.
No. You are making assumptions and saying it's logical. That's where I disagree. We have all seen how logical assumptions have gone wrong in the past 2 years, which you think should make absolute sense but what happens elsewhere is completely different.
Yeah, now all the 19 clubs should pack up and leave just because Pep signed for City. Isn't it funny how you changed your stance on Jose?
Also most important thing about the club is club itself. When it stops winning trophies then finance will take a major hit which in turn put club in danger. We need someone to take us to the top. If Jose is as bad as some of you say then he would be in jail serving his time.
You guys have no problem is supporting your owner who is well known, well lets leave it there but you take moral high ground about Jose.
We see how Liverpool fans cheered for racist and how much they backed him with T-shirts nonsense which was driven by their hero but somehow they take moral high ground when it comes to Jose.
Don't talk about morals and principles, it's such a bs in football.
Mate I can point you to about a hundred different journalists who have written at one point or another that Ambramovich is a huge fan of Pep and is desperate to lure him to Stamford Bridge. I cannot even believe this issue is up for discussion. If you are still somehow adamant that it is not true, then take Mike's opinion on it and see what he says. Also what Ballague said on Falcao and what he says on Pep are two very different things. Just because he was wrong on one does not mean he is wrong on the other. Thats just an illogical rebuttal
Thats like me saying that because Sunil had a wrong prediction today, I am going to discount all predictions he makes from now on
Of course I have changed my stance on Jose. He just led my club to a relegation battle and tore apart the dressing room in half a season. Did you still expect me to idolize him as Jesus? Also if you read back, I made it clear that United will only benefit if Mourinho 1.0 turns up at OT and not the new Mourinho 2.0 version after Madrid. Also I am not taking the moral high ground on anyone. I am looking at it from a pure footballing sense. I do not think Mourinho in his present persona would be a good fit at United but thats up for discussion. I am sure trophies would come either way but at what cost?
The ones who have clearly changed their stance is United. From not wanting to smear the reputation of the club with Jose to now running to him with their hands out asking him to return. Morals and principles did fly out of the window. It is not surprising. It happens at every club. I am just pointing out that its finally happened at United as well when everyone would want to believe otherwise
You moan when ManUtd are linked with Mane and also moan when they are linked with Neymar. You keep on going on about quality of squad when club tries to sign a big player you think it's some stupid policy.
DiMarzio: United target Atlético Madrid's sporting director Andrea Berta alongside Mourinho:
Sporting director Andrea Berta has made a name for himself at Atletico Madrid after previously working at Parma and Genoa. The former banker has formed a strong partnership with Simeone as a well as director Jose' Caminero, they took the club from the relegation zone to the la Liga title in just three years.. Berta has shown good attention to detail, professionalism and the ability to make the right choices- he wasn't afraid to replace Courtois with Oblak as an example. Berta has become the most respected Italian director in Europe, and the Premier League has set their sights on him.
While the biggest milestones in his career have taken place in Spain, Berta could be leaving Madrid for England, where he could partner with Jose Mourinho at Manchester United. The Red Devils have identified Mourinho as their top choice, there isn't much room for discussions or alternatives, the negotiation has been on going for some time. The plan seems to be set, the signature is expected to be for next season, as the former Chelsea manager doesn't want to start right away. Berta has a good relationship with Mourinho's agent Jorge Mendes, the possibility that he will join Manchester United is concrete- he will give his answer in the next few weeks. Manchester United is looking to get back on track, Mourinho and Berta could be the central figures in their new project.
http://gianlucadimarzio.com/en/eng/...rta-could-join-mourinho-at-manchester-united/
Things in motion now by the looks of it. Despite what LVG is saying, looks like he is gone in the summer. And i think this with Mou signing will be a major step forward into righting the wrongs since and even before Fergie left.
Yes would be delighted if true. And then leave Woody to the fianancial side of the club, we he is excellent at tbh. Plus its good he is a close friend of Mou and could have an excellent partnership both in terms of on and off the pitch. Also his transfer dealings at Atletico have been impressive on such a small budget compared to the 2 big boys, and his conections to South American scouts, teams and players is very interesting. With him Mou and Mendes being best of buddies this could be fanastic for the club and getting us back were we belong.Great news to hear this and one of the best moves as a club we can make, I've been crying out for our club to make strides forward in terms of how we are run on the footballing side of things, this is a sign of those wheels starting to go in motion.
Yes would be delighted if true. And then leave Woody to the fianancial side of the club, we he is excellent at tbh. Plus its good he is a close friend of Mou and could have an excellent partnership both in terms of on and off the pitch. Also his transfer dealings at Atletico have been impressive on such a small budget compared to the 2 big boys, and his conections to South American scouts, teams and players is very interesting. With him Mou and Mendes being best of buddies this could be fanastic for the club and getting us back were we belong.
Will be an interesting Summer thats for not just transfer wise but with potentially new manager,DOF,acadamey director of what ever you want to call it all coming in. Least things are sounding promising and looks like people at the top are starting to make strides to put things right.Exactly, one of the best moves as a club we can make, puts us in a much better place with how we'll be run and leaves Woody to go get his next noodle sponsor without worrying about transfers at the same time whilst also thinking where he'll take LVG to dine to give him the sack lol.