The Manchester United Thread

[sunilvk7]

All i wish is we dont lose players because of Van Gaal methods. Apparent few players are ****** off as they are told to play in the box assigned to them and if they break the rule they will be benched.

Typical Van Gaal. Thats how he worked all his life, so tough for him to change his methods.

Liverpool deserved to qualify. They were much better in the first leg and silly mistakes cost us big time.

Not sure why are we waiting so long to sack him. At least players will enjoy playing with freedom if played under any manager.

 

[Tyton]

I have no ****** idea why he keeps playing Fellaini over Schneiderlin.

 

[sunilvk7]

The frustrating thing about all this is that despite what some insist on telling is, we can play so much better. The inhibition is infuriating.

Dont worty mate, just few more games. Once we get proper manager we will see much better performance from same players.

We have very good squad but they are not playing to their potential because of Van Gaal methods.

Martial, Memphis, Smalling, Herrera, Schneiderlin, Shaw, Schweinsteiger, Darmian, Mata are all capable of better performance and excellent core to build team.

Then we have very talented players like Januzaj, Pereira, CBJ, Rashford, Fosu Mensah.

All we need is change of manager and players having a chance to express themselves.

 

[Legend Incredible]

All i wish is we dont lose players because of Van Gaal methods. Apparent few players are ****** off as they are told to play in the box assigned to them and if they break the rule they will be benched.

Typical Van Gaal. Thats how he worked all his life, so tough for him to change his methods.

Liverpool deserved to qualify. They were much better in the first leg and silly mistakes cost us big time.

Not sure why are we waiting so long to sack him. At least players will enjoy playing with freedom if played under any manager.

We already lost di maria

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[Mike.]

Dont worty mate, just few more games. Once we get proper manager we will see much better performance from same players.

We have very good squad but they are not playing to their potential because of Van Gaal methods.

Martial, Memphis, Smalling, Herrera, Schneiderlin, Shaw, Schweinsteiger, Darmian, Mata are all capable of better performance and excellent core to build team.

Then we have very talented players like Januzaj, Pereira, CBJ, Rashford, Fosu Mensah.

All we need is change of manager and players having a chance to express themselves.

Also for someone so astute, his inability to target players is really poor.

Whether it's Blanc or Mourinho, we'll pose a much bigger threat next season. Waste of a season though

 

[Legend Incredible]

I remember when we had a discussion on here that went like this..."we lack the players requires to play high tempo football"

I think it was scouseinthehouse that brought it up.

Now let's go back to the game yesterday, for large parts of the game, the tempo was absolutely fantastic. Just a shame we couldn't put away those chances that came our way.

If lvg got us playing that system more consistently, we wouldn't be in this situation...we probably would've still been in the UCL facing real madrid...then probably crash out which is no shame...

We've seen some games this season where we've played high tempo stuff like stoke at home, Chelsea away, Chelsea at home in the first half, Everton away and so on...problem is...he sets up the team differently every game combined with his pathetic substitutions.

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[Scouseinthehouse]

Wasn't me mate. Never termed it like that.

 

[Legend Incredible]

With all this talk of a new manager, why not go for Marcelino or unal emery...I slightly prefer unal emery cos he promotes that brand of attacking football that we crave.

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[sunilvk7]

We already lost di maria

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I think it was Schneiderlin who said it. When you see his game at Southampton and at United, it's easy to see how much restricted his game is.

Also for someone so astute, his inability to target players is really poor.

Whether it's Blanc or Mourinho, we'll pose a much bigger threat next season. Waste of a season though

For me, I don't have problem with the players we have targeted and signed. It's his inability to make them play at their normal level nevermind punching above their weight.

We need 2-3 first team players and we are set. We have very good team which is made to look far worse because of Van Gaal.

I remember when we had a discussion on here that went like this..."we lack the players requires to play high tempo football"

I think it was scouseinthehouse that brought it up.

Now let's go back to the game yesterday, for large parts of the game, the tempo was absolutely fantastic. Just a shame we couldn't put away those chances that came our way.

If lvg got us playing that system more consistently, we wouldn't be in this situation...we probably would've still been in the UCL facing real madrid...then probably crash out which is no shame...

We've seen some games this season where we've played high tempo stuff like stoke at home, Chelsea away, Chelsea at home in the first half, Everton away and so on...problem is...he sets up the team differently every game combined with his pathetic substitutions.

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I agree. We are capable of playing high tempo game and there is no doubt about it. We have played high tempo but it was in very very few games. Van Gaal hate playing by taking risks. He said many times in his press conference. When we went all out attack he said it made his *** twitch, these kind of tactics will never work especially at a club which always scored more goals than any one or in top 2 or 3 goal scorers.

 

[Legend Incredible]

Wasn't me mate. Never termed it like that.

Oops...my bad...probably wasn't you then..

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[Scouseinthehouse]

Oops...my bad...probably wasn't you then..

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NP mate. I just don't concur that your current squad is strong at all. Smiles.

Yeah, I think IIRC it revolved around you guy's debating Mata and his lack of pace. Something along those lines.

 

[Legend Incredible]

I think it was Schneiderlin who said it. When you see his game at Southampton and at United, it's easy to see how much restricted his game is.



For me, I don't have problem with the players we have targeted and signed. It's his inability to make them play at their normal level nevermind punching above their weight.

We need 2-3 first team players and we are set. We have very good team which is made to look far worse because of Van Gaal.



I agree. We are capable of playing high tempo game and there is no doubt about it. We have played high tempo but it was in very very few games. Van Gaal hate playing by taking risks. He said many times in his press conference. When we went all out attack he said it made his *** twitch, these kind of tactics will never work especially at a club which always scored more goals than any one or in top 2 or 3 goal scorers.

Also going back to the Swansea game at old trafford, remember when he said he enjoyed the 1st half a lot more than the 2nd half?

The first half of that game ended 0-0, we were playing the same old side to side, boring possession football with no clear cut chances, very few players getting into the box. Martial was a ******* wing back ffs! He said he enjoyed that!

2nd half, martial moved up top with rooney and we took more risks and actual did something that resembled attacking. Of course we opened up at the back but that's what taking risks is all about. Then we went on to win 2-1. Van gaal said he didn't like this. Those comments just explained his mentality.

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[Legend Incredible]

NP mate. I just don't concur that your current squad is strong at all. Smiles.

Yeah, I think IIRC it revolved around you guy's debating Mata and his lack of pace. Something along those lines.

Alright I'll bite. To say not "strong at all" is just vaguely putting it. It's not strong enough...or rather not good enough to challenge for titles and the mentality is awful.

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[Mike.]

I think it was Schneiderlin who said it. When you see his game at Southampton and at United, it's easy to see how much restricted his game is.



For me, I don't have problem with the players we have targeted and signed. It's his inability to make them play at their normal level nevermind punching above their weight.

We need 2-3 first team players and we are set. We have very good team which is made to look far worse because of Van Gaal.



I agree. We are capable of playing high tempo game and there is no doubt about it. We have played high tempo but it was in very very few games. Van Gaal hate playing by taking risks. He said many times in his press conference. When we went all out attack he said it made his *** twitch, these kind of tactics will never work especially at a club which always scored more goals than any one or in top 2 or 3 goal scorers.

I meant targeting opposition tactically. We are capable, but we need a couple more up top, those who can finish under high tempo pressure, and can create under it.

 

[Theatre of dreams]

As reported on Sat on [url]http://redissueforum.co.uk [/URL] Mourinho was told last Fri post-Anfield he will be next Utd manager. Nothing signed yet though

 

[Theatre of dreams]

That was from a tweet from redissue just now posted on Mou thread on refcare.

 

[Scouseinthehouse]

I have no ****** idea why he keeps playing Fellaini over Schneiderlin.

No idea why he's even at United. Horrible, horrible footballer.

Been an interesting case study with Everton fans here who always used to be like 'he's not a dirty *******. It's just you soft twats that can't cope with him' ...... until he was sold and since then it's been 'yeah, he's just a thug. Complete bag of *****' ...... Thugs a great summing up because he's a real nasty player. Most players good the air use their arms for leverage, but he does it with malice. He looks for the player than goes for them with his elbow. Time after time after time.

I don't know what is but he isn't a Utd player. Or at least shouldn't be.

 

[Mike.]

Poor behaviour from both sets of fans last night. Got no issue with any punishment we get. Liverpool fans getting upset and claiming the moral high ground, despite on air an off air cameras showing the opposite. A good start is not getting into the home end and causing trouble. Don't go in the home end and then play the victims, UEFA will give no ***** either way Suspect both clubs will get fines and rightly so. Hopefully we can throw some bans at some of our cretins too

 

[Scouseinthehouse]

Poor behaviour from both sets of fans last night. Got no issue with any punishment we get. Liverpool fans getting upset and claiming the moral high ground, despite on air an off air cameras showing the opposite. A good start is not getting into the home end and causing trouble. Don't go in the home end and then play the victims, UEFA will give no ***** either way Suspect both clubs will get fines and rightly so.

Did you really just type that in light of recent events on both here and at both legs?

VERY poor turn of phrase.

 

[mersk]

Poor behaviour from both sets of fans last night. Got no issue with any punishment we get. Liverpool fans getting upset and claiming the moral high ground, despite on air an off air cameras showing the opposite. A good start is not getting into the home end and causing trouble. Don't go in the home end and then play the victims, UEFA will give no ***** either way Suspect both clubs will get fines and rightly so.

Claiming moral high ground? Play the victims? What the **** are you on about? Only Liverpool got charged with illicit chanting. And in case you missed it, you don't have to "play the victims" or "claim moral high ground" to point out the obvious fact of Hillsborough chants being clearly audible throughout both games. So yeah, maybe both clubs will get fines, but that doesn't change the fact these charges are a ******* joke.