The Manchester United Thread

sunilvk7 said:
Checked Everton forum to see injury updates, looked like most are very angry with Stones and Lukaku and want them out.

Many lauded Everton for not bending down to Chelsea when they made 40 Million bid, that now looks like a bad decision. Hindsight and all that.

1 or 2 seasons more with Martinez and Coleman will look like pub player and all the defenders will lose whatever talent they have.
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I'm willing to place a bet that Martinez won't be in charge next season. Especially with the new investors not being overly impressed with what they've seen
 
ajt09 said:
I'm willing to place a bet that Martinez won't be in charge next season. Especially with the new investors not being overly impressed with what they've seen
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Good for Everton. Few are scared FA cup victory might save his job. Looks like both ManUtd and Everton fans are in same boat.
 
ajt09 said:
I'm willing to place a bet that Martinez won't be in charge next season. Especially with the new investors not being overly impressed with what they've seen
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Pellegrini rumours have already started. :)
 
ajt09 said:
..... Also more people are agreeing with my viewpoint to let Stones move on. He's regressing under the current management and would hate to see that happen-let him move on. We're ****-simply put. We have no winning attitude from the board down to the pitch.
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I appreciate Kenwright being narked the way Chelsea handled it, but should of taken that absolutely ridiculous £40 million offer.

All that talk that 'he'll be worth double that next season' has backfired hard. His value has well depreciated from what was on the table last summer after his horrible season this.
 
sunilvk7 said:
Michael Keane is named in the championship team of the year. Would be good to see him in PL next season.
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This was one of my complaints a while back when I was saying about our lads not getting a chance as much over the years. Keane was a fantastic prospect. Could have been a really good squad player if given the game time. But we ended up buying Phil Jones and pushed him back down the pecking order. Now Phil Jones can't play 3 games without injured again yet Keane is flourishing playing every week. Always said he'd be back in the premiership within a couple of years whether that be with Burnley or somewhere else

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steveorobbo said:
This was one of my complaints a while back when I was saying about our lads not getting a chance as much over the years. Keane was a fantastic prospect. Could have been a really good squad player if given the game time. But we ended up buying Phil Jones and pushed him back down the pecking order. Now Phil Jones can't play 3 games without injured again yet Keane is flourishing playing every week. Always said he'd be back in the premiership within a couple of years whether that be with Burnley or somewhere else

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I thought Tom Thorpe deserved a shot as well as Shawcross and others. I can understand why they were let go, but some were easily good enough to be squad players.
 
sunilvk7 said:
Except the geographical location there is nothing local about the english clubs.

Owners are foreign.
Sponsorships and investments comes from foreign companies.
Managers are foreigners.
Most of the star players are foreigners.

So why only exception to the youth football?

For example, middle east fella invested 1 billion at ManCity, why shouldn't some young players from his country use the facilities?
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None of that is necessarily good. Just because we might have gone too far in other areas, doesn't mean we should give up in all areas.
 
Alcaraz said:
I agree that most youth players rarely show their true ability until they are 22-24. I also agree that the costs of bringing the majority of them in far outweights the benefits as most turn out to be average players so financially, more sense to invest in local talent

However, there are many talented footballers who probably have zero hope of realising their potential unless they are able to utilize the top facilities and coaches at the EPL clubs. Especially players in countries outside Europe. A good example off the top of my head would be the Da Silva twins who probably would not be as good if they remained in Brazil. I am sure there are much better examples mind
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The Da Silvas were ridiculous talent, even at that age, so they are different as I alluded to. What I'm against is picking up players from abroad when they are not much better than what is currently there locally
 
So who do you think Mou ;) will take youngster wise on tour this summer ? I would maybe like to see more this tour even though it is shorter than usuall. Just for it being the Euros and we can't be doing with players being injured or tired when the season starts. And obviously because I think we have some very talented players who I would like to stake a claim.
 
Theatre of dreams said:
So who do you think Mou ;) will take youngster wise on tour this summer ? I would maybe like to see more this tour even though it is shorter than usuall. Just for it being the Euros and we can't be doing with players being injured or tired when the season starts. And obviously because I think we have some very talented players who I would like to stake a claim.
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All of those in the team currently. A lot of our players will be coming off Euros so there will be lots of opportunities
 
Mike. said:
All of those in the team currently. A lot of our players will be coming off Euros so there will be lots of opportunities
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Yeah my thoughts too. TFM, Varela, Periera, CBJ, Riley and Williams, Tuanzebe would like to see go obviously Rashford and Wilson. Maybe Rothwell, Goss.
 
Mike. said:
The Da Silvas were ridiculous talent, even at that age, so they are different as I alluded to. What I'm against is picking up players from abroad when they are not much better than what is currently there locally
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Fair enough
 
Mike. said:
The Da Silvas were ridiculous talent, even at that age, so they are different as I alluded to. What I'm against is picking up players from abroad when they are not much better than what is currently there locally
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Also shows how slight things can change the outcomes and careers of the players.

Player that the team needed at the time in a certain position, injuries etc. They were both rated really highly, same coaches, same facilities yet one played loads for United and the other had to go off to another team to get games.

Quite a shame they didn't hold a flank each for a good few years at United
 
Average Joe said:
Also shows how slight things can change the outcomes and careers of the players.

Player that the team needed at the time in a certain position, injuries etc. They were both rated really highly, same coaches, same facilities yet one played loads for United and the other had to go off to another team to get games.

Quite a shame they didn't hold a flank each for a good few years at United
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Fabio beset by injuries, both were really. Such a shame.
 
Theatre of dreams said:
Apparently on red issue there saying season ticket prices for next season are at an all time low. And are struggling for new sales. Also saying the club plan to announce Mou as soon as the fa cup has finished for us either winning or going out in the semi to help boost sales again for season tickets. Don't know if true, but in not surprised about ticket sales being low.
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Just been reading a piece from Mitten on just how down on capacity OT was for the game against Palace with so many ST holders staying away. LONG time since Utd has been like that.

Just adds to Van Gaal's list of horrors at yours.
 
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