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But but I thought Mou didn't like him or that it's another De Bruyne or Luiz or Cudrado..Lol some people.


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Mkhitaryan: "There was no bad relation with Mourinho, it was always good but the problem wasn't him, it was me." #mufc
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I wish mourinho would take a similar approach and admit he's the problem.

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Travelling squad: De Gea, Romero, Johnstone; Fosu-Mensah, Jones, Bailly, Rojo, Blind, Young, Herrera, Pogba, Lingard, Mata, Mkhitaryan; Martial, Rashford, Rooney, Ibrahimovic
 
Theatre of dreams said:
Travelling squad: De Gea, Romero, Johnstone; Fosu-Mensah, Jones, Bailly, Rojo, Blind, Young, Herrera, Pogba, Lingard, Mata, Mkhitaryan; Martial, Rashford, Rooney, Ibrahimovic
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DDG
Fosu - Jones - Rojo - Blind
Herrera - Rooney - Pogba
Mkhy - Ibra - Martial

for me.
 
Theatre of dreams said:
Bye bye to Memphis, Schniederlin, Fellaini in Jan I reckon.
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out of them 3, I would keep Morgan, loan out Depay and sell Fellaini also, does anyone else have an issue where you can't use space when typing in this forum? I had to write this in notepad
 
hughesman said:
out of them 3, I would keep Morgan, loan out Depay and sell Fellaini also, does anyone else have an issue where you can't use space when typing in this forum? I had to write this in notepad
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Yeah but only the quick reply box. go advanced works fine.
 
Paul Ince on the current situation;

‘If anyone can help Manchester United to evolve and return to their former glory, it’s Jose Mourinho. Despite the results, you can see from the last four or five games that Manchester United are starting to take shape. They have been more dominant than the other team.
‘The signs are all there, Mourinho is gradually taking them back to where they want to get to. He is still the ‘Special One’.’

‘Mourinho has come in off the back of three years of David Moyes and Louis Van Gaal, and he has had to deal with their appointments and their style of play,’ he said.
‘There are players in that side that Jose will want to get rid of, and players that he will want to bring in. You won’t see a full-strength Mourinho team until next year, and only then can you judge him.’


I'm in total agreement with him. A bit of sense amongst all the other media bashing. I can't really understand how some people can't see the big improvements that are already there, and we're not even half a season into his managerial tenure.

There's no consistency, but that isn't out of the ordinary - Klopp as an example off the top of my head didn't have it in his first season with Pool either, it takes time to drill what you're about into a squad. Ok, there's been some bad luck mixed with poor finishing here and there, but that happens, at least we're creating the chances. And yeah ok, we've dropped a few silly leads against decent opposition (which is frustrating), but it's worth noting we didn't have either of our first choice centre halves in either of those games, and both goals were down to poor individual errors with Rashford not tracking the Ox/letting him go way too easy, and a retarded f**k by a certain Belgian in the other. Now I'm not going to say Bailly or Smalling would've 100% been more demanding and would've headed that Ox cross clear, or would've had the positional awareness to of been nearer to Gueye and pair up/take control, but I for one would be more comfortable trying to see out leads with our first choice pair on the pitch. And that's of no disrespect to Rojo or Jones, who have filled in readily and gave their all (Jones has actually been really good), but just a personal preference.


 
hughesman said:
out of them 3, I would keep Morgan, loan out Depay and sell Fellaini also, does anyone else have an issue where you can't use space when typing in this forum? I had to write this in notepad
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Na get rid of the lot for me. Most probably Young, Januzaj as well. Obvious there not in Mourinho plans.
 
RhQQ said:
Paul Ince on the current situation;

‘If anyone can help Manchester United to evolve and return to their former glory, it’s Jose Mourinho. Despite the results, you can see from the last four or five games that Manchester United are starting to take shape. They have been more dominant than the other team.
‘The signs are all there, Mourinho is gradually taking them back to where they want to get to. He is still the ‘Special One’.’

‘Mourinho has come in off the back of three years of David Moyes and Louis Van Gaal, and he has had to deal with their appointments and their style of play,’ he said.
‘There are players in that side that Jose will want to get rid of, and players that he will want to bring in. You won’t see a full-strength Mourinho team until next year, and only then can you judge him.’


I'm in total agreement with him. A bit of sense amongst all the other media bashing. I can't really understand how some people can't see the big improvements that are already there, and we're not even half a season into his managerial tenure.

There's no consistency, but that isn't out of the ordinary - Klopp as an example off the top of my head didn't have it in his first season with Pool either, it takes time to drill what you're about into a squad......
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With glaring MAJOR differences. Klopp came in October. With no pre-season. And spent the whole of that first year with the players he inherited. Coaching them into better footballers. Believing in them. The complete polar opposite of whats going on here. José came in and had the summer, spent a **** load, and is now saying this player and that player isn't good enough and being backed up on here, as this is where we're talking, by the same Utd fans who spent the summer saying how strong the squad was to fight on all fronts for all trophy's this year!

You won't see the best of anyone until the second year. Completely with you there and I wrote earlier in the year as such and being patient as fans. But the thing here from the clubs POV is you don't hire Mourinho to build something. You hire Mourinho to win NOW! Which Utd did in desperastion. And which most everyone in this thread, yourself and a very few others excepted, were full of him doing the summer as the days were counted down to the World record Pogba signing to take his spend over the £150 million mark and take you over the top.

I now find it humous the narrative is changing to 'top 4 at best', or 'next season.' It should be that way no question. But in the context of money spent, massive expectation from the get go, and the very reason you hire Mourinho, to win NOW, as he's shown with immediate turnarounds at all his clubs bar the current new low at Utd, the context of that is being taken out of all proportion and being swung into some completely different 'hope.'

Utd miss the Champions league it's an absolute disaster and complete failure. I don't know how it can be construed as anything else with all the money at play here in the squad.

A squad many who've now flipped the other way were crowing was the best in the league going into the season with finally a top manager to bring you back to prominence.
 
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Never realised (or just completely forgot over time) Peter Schmeichel (still the best 'keeper the PL's ever seen IMHO) was 28 when he signed for Utd.

Puts it into perspective for all the reactionary idiots calling for Karius (23) to be out of the L'pool side already. Schmeichel was still developing at tiny Hvidovre in Denmark at his age.
 
Scouseinthehouse said:
Never realised (or just completely forgot over time) Peter Schmeichel (still the best 'keeper the PL's ever seen IMHO) was 28 when he signed for Utd.

Puts it into perspective for all the reactionary idiots calling for Karius (23) to be out of the L'pool side already. Schmeichel was still developing at tiny Hvidovre in Denmark at his age.
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I'm not saying Karius will work out and tbh not seen him play, but I think you can draw parallels with DDG he got so much criticism in the beginning and now he is easily one of the best if not the best in the world. Not saying Karius will be as good as DDG we don't know but Keepers are funny creatures and at 23 he is a baby in terms of age, not everyone can be Buffon.
 
epic terrorist said:
I'm not saying Karius will work out and tbh not seen him play, but I think you can draw parallels with DDG he got so much criticism in the beginning and now he is easily one of the best if not the best in the world. Not saying Karius will be as good as DDG we don't know but Keepers are funny creatures and at 23 he is a baby in terms of age, not everyone can be Buffon.
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Things like this happen with players all the time with players. Never get time to settle or the opportunity to learn without somebody being on their back. Look at Bale at Spurs. Signed him as a left back and never won a game he started for about 2 years. Automatically the blame went on him as a scapegoat. It wasnt until they had a **** load of injuries that he had to play games on the wing and he was a completely different player. The media put that monkey on his back about not winning a game when he starts and it must have been a huge pressure on a kid. Then that gets into his head and understandably affects his performances.

Unfortunately in this day and age people want results straight away. The price tags of players now, demand that they are the finished article straight away. Teams of a certain level and reputation can't afford to allow for mistakes of young players learning their game because of the media scrutiny and the expectations of owners demanding results straight away. Its sad the way its going.
 
Must say I haven't seen a great deal of Weigl (who has been mentioned on numerous occasions on this thread) - will keep an eager eye tonight against Madrid.
 
RhQQ said:
Must say I haven't seen a great deal of Weigl (who has been mentioned on numerous occasions on this thread) - will keep an eager eye tonight against Madrid.
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Great player. For someone so young his game management and control is class. Him and Pusilic are fantastic as are Mor and Dembele.
 
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