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Dead funny flick that.
Bruges! I could think of FAR worse places to be stuck in.
Soz to hear about the lad who died in the hit and run. The applause Sunday will get our full respect as always.
Bruges! I could think of FAR worse places to be stuck in.
Soz to hear about the lad who died in the hit and run. The applause Sunday will get our full respect as always.
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Jesus, thats about the 3rd hit and run this week.. ffs.
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If we're referring to these comments below in the link I'm baffled how anyone thinks he is speaking garbage. It's spot on to me that the FA don't help English clubs one bit when it comes to scheduling and them being in Europe. As our horrendous fixture schedule shows for April it's not only highly unfair for our league aspirations, considering us and Leicester are only ones now in Europe in comparison to all other PL clubs who will have much more time. But it's not helping English clubs generally when they are in Europe one bit, when you compare it to other league associations in Germany/Spain or wherever where they try to help their teams by spacing their games out more when they have played in European competitions.
http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11667/10804621/jose-in-plea-to-premier-league
"I think they don't give an S about the English teams in Europe. They simply don't care."
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Add the FA to the list of 'all the Utd enemies.' Which was the post match interview we were referencing. As you know from the post you cut down.
Wouldn't have it any other way mate, just makes us stronger, when we win to see all our haters hide in their caves.
But on a serious note, if anyone tries to convince themselves that the FA is helping us then just look at our schedule for April, it's bonkers, May could be as bad depending on how we do.
Europa League is our best chance now, hate to say it with the teams left in it as the disadvantage we have in the league in terms of preparation between games etc etc. to make top 4 is going to be incredibly tough.
The F.A. should definitely help teams more when in Europe with scheduling though, other league associations make an effort to help whereas ours is just all about the money, no real surprise.
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I wouldn't know zz.
Apparently, none of your rivals know about fatigue.
L'pool having the heaviest schedule in Europe last year with nottin' like the depth of Utd's squad doesn't come into it.
Apparently, none of your rivals know about fatigue.
L'pool having the heaviest schedule in Europe last year with nottin' like the depth of Utd's squad doesn't come into it.
Well they certainly don't this season as they went out of Europe too quick. (6)
Its a nonsense excuse because United are playing in the Europa League where there is a massive disparity in the quality of their squad with that of rival teams as well as the financial resources they can deploy. Considering that they have these massive systemic advantages that makes them runaway favourites to win the competition, they really should stop complaining.
Also now that they are offering a CL berth to the Europa League winners, they really ought to take a look at whether it is fair for big clubs like Chelsea, United, Madrid, City etc. to compete in the Europa League considering the huge gulf between them and the likes of Sevilla or Ajax.
Also considering that Mourinho has to win the Europa League to get a CL berth and save his job after spending a world record transfer fee, I would love to see his reaction considering all the pot shots he took at Rafa for winning the Europa League with Chelsea.
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So you would impose a random arbitrary point at which a team was to good for the europa league one of the stranger ideas I've ever heard, also given your stated example of Sevilla won it 3 years in a row surely that is a massive sign there is a decent gulf between them and everyone else in the Europa league and they should be past your arbitrary point of ability for it
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The Europa League has lost lots of attraction in recent years and because of the champion's league bonus there might be more incentives for larger clubs to invest into it. However for a club like Ajax it doesn't matter too much. The last time they managed to get into the quarter finals was around 04. Yet they still manage to get into the CL by becoming champions or playing qualifications.
I would expect BPL clubs to do better and maybe dominate the Europa League, because they aren't good enough for the CL, yet have so much more money and squad depth that the Europa League should be a very reasonable target for a trophy. But what shouldn't be underestimated is that a club like Man U will be the club to beat in the tournament and every team wants to play against them and give that extra effort.
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I've read this three or four times and I don't fully understand your reasoning here mate?
Clubs with better resources shouldn't be allowed to enter as it's unfair on clubs that don't have the same? That goes against the whole ethos of sport and competing surely? Where do you draw the line? Do away with the FA Cup as the disparity between a non-league side like Lincoln facing Arsenal is massively weighted in Arsenals favour? Repeating myself, but surely the whole ethos of competitive sport is for a club like Lincoln to pit their wits against an Arsenal? And improve themselves as a club in all aspects from so doing? Do away with the World Cup as the bigger population Country's have loads more resources than the smaller ones?
Where does it stop?
You can't exclude a club from a competition just because they happen to be stronger than other clubs.
United win the Europa League this year they'll of won it on merit. As Rostov showed in coming so close to at the least taking the tie to extra time Thursday, 2 legged straight knockout European football is a great leveler and the truest test there is.
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How is it a strange idea? Don't you feel there is something terribly unfair when you have clubs competing against one another with suh a huge gulf in quality and resources between them? We can't do anything about it in league competitions but at least for a European competition we should.
Also I never said the line is arbitrary. I have no idea what the cut-off should be but if Sevilla are above it then so be it. I am okay with thay.
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If it was some mickey mouse competition then fair enough but its not its a European competition the second most prestigious club competition in the world. Everyone bemoans teams not taking it seriously and then United do and suddenly its unfair thats not right.
Its europe the best vs the best or whatever, the competition may have lost some of its shine but you only have to look at some of the teams that have won this comp down the years to see what a prestigious competition it really is.