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Not sure how Mourinho got it spot on tactically when his entire game plan to stop Hazard seem to revolve around trying to kick him off the pitch. Does not take a tactical genius to do that plus it was doomed to fail with a high chance, United will be reduced to 10 men which is exactly what happened. For reference, look at Pepe and nearly every El Clasico game managed by Mourinho.
 
First yellow was super harsh after just watching the highlights. The second was just super stupid. DDG and Rojo played well by the looks of it. And Pogba needs to be challenging Kante there! And Rashford should be burying that one on one.
 
It was much more than just watch Hazard. Your build up play is revolved around two of the three centre halves pushing up and offering options, we continuously pressed and cut passing lanes with our front 3 with Valencia, Pogba and Herrera selectively enhancing that. We overran your midfield, got tight to every man, Rojo was glued to Costa, and likewise Jones to Hazard, if they went to the toilet, our lads went would've been outside the cubicle waiting on them.
 
Theatre of dreams said:
First yellow was super harsh after just watching the highlights. The second was just super stupid. DDG and Rojo played well by the looks of it. And Pogba needs to be challenging Kante there! And Rashford should be burying that one on one.
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Hmm, thing is if you slow the replay down a little you can see he is clearly running, sees Hazard, checks his run and smashes into him. That's textbook obstruction and why the rule exists in the first place. I've noticed Herrera is really good at those sorts of things and the niggling little fouls, and gets away with lots of them. Reminds me a lot of Vidal in that respect.

2nd yellow was massively soft though, and seemed to just be because of the persistent fouling on Hazard and the ref getting ****** off with it. Next player to touch him was clearly getting a yellow and Herrera just happened to be the lucky foul
 
I don't think there's any arguments with the red tbf. Herrera is a wolf in sheep's clothing, a baby faced warrior, who is very intelligent in little things like that, but sometimes, like today, it doesn't go unnoticed.
 
RhQQ said:
It was much more than just watch Hazard. Your build up play is revolved around two of the three centre halves pushing up and offering options, we continuously pressed and cut passing lanes with our front 3 with Valencia, Pogba and Herrera selectively enhancing that. We overran your midfield, got tight to every man, Rojo was glued to Costa, and likewise Jones to Hazard, if they went to the toilet, our lads went would've been outside the cubicle waiting on them.
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You did a great job of disrupting and suppressing every line of passing and pretty much keeping us down in every position, but you weren't handling Hazard all that well, hence the constant stream of fouls. I think Mou did a great job because too many teams just manhandle Hazard and let everyone else run free, but the niggling, Classico style fouls are not the way to deal with him either. Keeping him wide and isolated would have worked a lot better.
 
Congrats to chelsea. They got a well-deserved win. I loved our tactical setup (bar the constant hazard fouls). It would've been intriguing to see how it would've played out if we finished with 11 men (or at least had 11v11 till very late in the game).

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I think the Chelsea diving was a bit embarrassing and no one has talked about. Then again Hazad and Costa are specialists at it is no big surprise.

Lets see how the extra special one aka Conte does next season when he has a far tougher schedule to contend with.
 
Theatre of dreams said:
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Chelsea fans near press box chant '**** off Mourinho'. And call him Judas. He signals three titles and points at Stamford Bridge pitch. Also Chelsea fans chant Conte the extra special one and boo Mourinho.
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Important clarification that a very small section of fans just behind the dugout were mainly responsible. The vast majority of fans in the stadium just ignored him.
 
Jose Mourinho says Paul Pogba was the 'best player on the pitch' in Chelsea win over Man Utd.

I'm starting to despair now.
Sometimes I think Jose is living in an alternate reality.
 
Subtle said:
You did a great job of disrupting and suppressing every line of passing and pretty much keeping us down in every position, but you weren't handling Hazard all that well, hence the constant stream of fouls. I think Mou did a great job because too many teams just manhandle Hazard and let everyone else run free, but the niggling, Classico style fouls are not the way to deal with him either. Keeping him wide and isolated would have worked a lot better.
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Nearly every El Clasico game where Mourinho has employed these tactics has ended up backfiring though. There is a fine line between making frequent niggling fouls and outright manhandling a player and most players end up on the wrong side of it eventually during a match. It was a strategy that will work maybe 3 times out of 10. As you said, keeping him wide and isolated would have worked a lot better fouling him only when absolutely necessary.
 
Anthony said:
Jose Mourinho says Paul Pogba was the 'best player on the pitch' in Chelsea win over Man Utd.

I'm starting to despair now.
Sometimes I think Jose is living in an alternate reality.
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Dont think he believes that at all. Just taking pressure of the lad. He's been good as a whole most parts the season. Will only get better next in a settled and improved team. And now being use to the league.
 
Anthony said:
Jose Mourinho says Paul Pogba was the 'best player on the pitch' in Chelsea win over Man Utd.

I'm starting to despair now.
Sometimes I think Jose is living in an alternate reality.
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its all psychology,theres no way jose believes that im sure.
 
and for those that are losing the plot over how bad pogba supposedly has been are you forgetting about the starts made by de gea and vidic in particular?both struggled early on and became top players.to judge someone sop early is ridiculous and can only be as a result of the transfer fee.Transfer fees nowadays do not always reflect a players ability,there are many factors involved.
 
djs1 said:
and for those that are losing the plot over how bad pogba supposedly has been are you forgetting about the starts made by de gea and vidic in particular?both struggled early on and became top players.to judge someone sop early is ridiculous and can only be as a result of the transfer fee.Transfer fees nowadays do not always reflect a players ability,there are many factors involved.
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And Evra debut against City. One of the worst performances I've seen in a Utd shirt.
 
djs1 said:
to judge someone sop early is ridiculous and can only be as a result of the transfer fee..
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I couldn't give a rats if He cost €5 or €105,000,000.
He was ****, and gets called out as ****.

I've been supporting this club since the 70's and don't make any apologies for these show pony brands mincing about like a f***ing Kardashian.

IF He comes good, great.
But He has a long way to go to convince Me He is worth a place at my club.

Please don't compare Vidic to pogba.
Vidic is a hard working lad who just wanted to be a footballer... He put the effort in and became a legend.

Less time worrying about your hair, or whether your tacky new line of handbags make their way onto Sports Direct is the key here.

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