The Manchester United Thread

[Mike.]

That just ironically reiterates my point. If he'd been played consistently there from the get-go, he'd more than likely be far more rounded up front now. And he never will be until he is played there to understand the position. He looked pretty darn good the end of the season when he was the spearhead. I'm going off memory and not being a Utd fan but Burnley away? Around that group of games.

But you chose to play him wide which is fine and Utd's prerogative.

Just theirs an argument to say if they'd of gone a different route, he'd be far more accomplished by now as a striker.

No it absolutely wouldn't. Sorry but it's bollocks. He hasnr got the intelligence to do it in acres of space out wide. The idea that he's going to learn when doubled up on and with a lot less is literally ludicrous. You're saying he can learn to run without learning to walk
He can't play centre forward until he can attack space from out wide. So no, it doesn't back up your point at all

To compare him to Henry, it was when Henry became super destructive attacking space on the wing that we was moved to CF, then he got better there

 

[Scouseinthehouse]

Fine. It's bollocks. I aren't particualalry arsed either way as it's not my club.

But I'll lay good money he never will be that player until he leaves Utd in that case.

 

[Mike.]

He'll never be that player until he learns the basics of attacking space, and not just standing up his opponent from a stationary position.

 

[Theatre of dreams]

Lads look sharp and to be enjoying training. Noticed on the tour vids how close Lukaku, Pogba, Martial seem to be.

 

[Average Joe]

You can also say his figures would have been better if his team mates could have hit a barn door.

That was also Uniteds trouble last season mate haha. (Inter actually scored more than United in the league, though yes it is considered a weaker league)

Perisic did get a great number of goals last season but he misses so ****** much

 

[Theatre of dreams]

That was also Uniteds trouble last season mate haha. (Inter actually scored more than United in the league, though yes it is considered a weaker league)

Perisic did get a great number of goals last season but he misses so ****** much

Just seen his comparative figures for crosses, goals, assists, shots on SSN against the likes of Martial, Mata etc and he was miles better in terms of productivity.

 

[Average Joe]

Just seen his comparative figures for crosses, goals, assists, shots on SSN against the likes of Martial, Mata etc and he was miles better in terms of productivity.

Not really looked up his numbers tbh mate, just from the inter games I watched he is an exiting player to watch (would quite like to see him in the Prem) but he misses the target a **** of a lot, though he did get a good amount of goals in the end!

Are his numbers much better than Mata??

 

[Theatre of dreams]

Not really looked up his numbers tbh mate, just from the inter games I watched he is an exiting player to watch (would quite like to see him in the Prem) but he misses the target a **** of a lot, though he did get a good amount of goals in the end!

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[Scouseinthehouse]

That was also Uniteds trouble last season mate haha. .....

No more than most, We just naturally think it affects us more when it's our own team involved. And that figure gets skewed somewhat by a shed load of chances missed in a 3 or 4 game spell.

Speaking personally, L'pool for example I believe dropped more points from winning positions than any other side in the league down to an inability to finish and kill teams off when they had their foot on the opposition's throat.

 

[Scouseinthehouse]

Why do Sky make comparisons like that when one player's played x number of games and made x number of starts more than the others? Surely if they wanted to make any worthwhile comparison they'd extrapolate the others figures out over the same number of games?

They do that with most transfers and it's like 'why bother?'

 

[Theatre of dreams]

Can't believe so many drawn games and points dropped at home last season.

 

[Theatre of dreams]

Why do Sky make comparisons like that when one player's played x number of games and made x number of starts more than the others? Surely if they wanted to make any worthwhile comparison they'd extrapolate the others figures out over the same number of games?

They do that with most transfers and it's like 'why bother?'

Yeah I agree but even on level amount of games I could see then getting to the amount crosses Perisic had which is why a lot of Utd fans are keen on him. Can provide genuine wide play which no one in our team can offer. And close to double figures in assists and goals. Helps he can easily play on the right. Even at WB in case Mou wanted to play a 3 at the back at times.

 

[Average Joe]

No more than most, We just naturally think it affects us more when it's our own team involved. And that figure gets skewed somewhat by a shed load of chances missed in a 3 or 4 game spell.

Speaking personally, L'pool for example I believe dropped more points from winning positions than any other side in the league down to an inability to finish and kill teams off when they had their foot on the opposition's throat.

Don't know about that mate, looking at this (however reliable it is and how they account for it I don't know though haha)

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/premier-league/chancenverwertung/wettbewerb/GB1/saison_id/2016

 

[Theatre of dreams]

Don't know about that mate, looking at this (however reliable it is and how they account for it I don't know though haha)

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/premier-league/chancenverwertung/wettbewerb/GB1/saison_id/2016

Brings tears to my eyes!

 

[Scouseinthehouse]

Yup. Some real low conversation rates right across the board on those figures. (Man alive there must have been chances missed a plenty the PL last year. Only 1 team over 20%?). Which is all relative to each club's season?

 

[Anthony]

Yeah I agree but even on level amount of games I could see then getting to the amount crosses Perisic had which is why a lot of Utd fans are keen on him.

Were we not moaning about that kind of football under Moyes?
I certainly don't want to watch united play predictable archaic 'spread to the wing, cross, rinse and repeat' football.

 

[Theatre of dreams]

Were we not moaning about that kind of football under Moyes?
I certainly don't want to watch united play predictable archaic 'spread to the wing, cross, rinse and repeat' football.

I didn't say that's the style of play we'd be playing. Just that he offers things we lack in the current squad.

 

[Theatre of dreams]

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the amount crosses Perisic had which is why a lot of Utd fans are keen on him.

I didn't say that's the style of play we'd be playing.

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[Theatre of dreams]

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Yeah good one in trying to twist my post! In no way have I said I want us to give the ball to the wingers and just lump the ball in the box. I'm getting at Perisic can offer natural width and provide good crosses off both feet, which non of our wide players can. He is also very quick can beat a man on both sides. Very good defensively and a good outlet on the attack. Also good at cutting in and getting shots off.