The Manchester United Thread

BTW, I'm not straight out saying either City or Liverpool would beat this side before some fool jumps all over that and runs with it the wrong way. These are clearly better than any other side in Europe right now.

But I'd give both, healthy and at the top of their game, an even chance over two games. Straight two legged knock-out European footie that's a shoot-out. NOTHING better. And ANYTHING can happen. It'd be one heck of a tie that's for sure.
 
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LOL. Scouse, Klopp would need some **** Lube if liverpool were to draw Real madrid in the group stages or KO rounds cause it might get rough or ugly
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Is he one tie a-piece with them? Beat them the semis. Lost the quarters? Something like that. Again, against a **** good Madrid side just 3 or 4 years back.

I think he'd relish going at them again.
 
BTW, something that hasn't been mentioned, kudos for the support tonight.

Utd may not have turned up but the fans certainly did. Even taking away anyone out there, I know a lot travelled and that's a heck of a haul.

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I'd put a lot of money on Real Madrid to knock out Liverpool if they meet in the group stage or the knockouts, although I would do so against pretty much every team I would feel confident in getting my money back with Madrid Liverpool
 
Modric-Isco-Kroos midfield is just stupid. All 3 of them are excellent at getting out of tight spaces and keeping their cool under pressure. On a good day they are unplayable, you can't take the ball away from them.
 
It's funny how it makes the most sense to take Isco out of the lineup to accommodate Bale in a 4-3-3, since taking out any of the other midfielders disrupts the balance the most. And yet when they can get him into the starting lineup, as they have done since midway through last season, Isco is consistently the best player on the pitch. Zidane's best achievement as manager in my opinion, giving Isco the chance to be star of the show - also doesn't hurt that the diamond gets Ronaldo closer to goal
 
Zizou has a serious task on his hand this season.I personally think we need the extra striker in Mbappe to back up Benz and Ron, but if not, then atleast we need to experiment with a Ron-Isco-Bale front three in case Benz goes down.Keeping both Bale and Isco happy is gonna be a hard job.

As far as Utd are concerned, we need our big club mentality back, also, we should not be playing Fellaini at all
 
I really couldn't give two figs what Liverpool could do tbh. Fearing a side and actually beating a side are two different things, and it's wholly irrelevant to tonight

Anyway, much better second half but things to work on. Matic looking to be key already
 
I know it's hypothetical now, but we should of really got Modric long before Madrid did. That barron spell where we didn't address the midfield under Fergie, we missed out on a lot of great players.
 
zzeezzy said:
I know it's hypothetical now, but we should of really got Modric long before Madrid did. That barron spell where we didn't address the midfield under Fergie, we missed out on a lot of great players.
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We tried tbf, shot down by Spurs at the time. Ferguson didn't want to fight with levy again
 
Shaw needs to come back on that left position. That or we get a new left back. Needed more dynamism there. You need thrust from either a left winger or a left back
 
zzeezzy said:
I know it's hypothetical now, but we should of really got Modric long before Madrid did. That barron spell where we didn't address the midfield under Fergie, we missed out on a lot of great players.
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No value mate :O some of the players we missed out on Hazard, Vidal, Oscar, Modric sure there's a few others can't remember off the top of my head. Moyes tried chasing unrealistic targets. LVG tried signing the wrong players. Least under Mourinho we can see a proper actual team being built and key areas being addressed. Not quite there yet but not far off from being a great team.
 
Honestly, in hindsight, I think i criticised lindelof a bit unfairly.

I sat down at work thinking about the old days with Pallister and remembered how much he struggled initially. I also remembered how **** evra looked at first. He got beat so easily in 1v1s, didn't track his runner, always caught out of position. So I remember all of that and I ask myself "maybe I have been harsh on the lad"



He struggled against the best team in the world who seemed to target his side for most of the match. I looked at the heat map for the entire match and noticed that pattern on the right side where lindelof was at. He had isco, bale (who was supposed to be a right winger btw), benzema and Marcelo coming at him. No shame to struggle against these world class players.

I'm willing to give him more time but with the increased pressure to perform with our title aspirations, he may not get more time.

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Legend Incredimaria said:
Honestly, in hindsight, I think i criticised lindelof a bit unfairly.

I sat down at work thinking about the old days with Pallister and remembered how much he struggled initially. I also remembered how **** evra looked at first. He got beat so easily in 1v1s, didn't track his runner, always caught out of position. So I remember all of that and I ask myself "maybe I have been harsh on the lad"



He struggled against the best team in the world who seemed to target his side for most of the match. I looked at the heat map for the entire match and noticed that pattern on the right side where lindelof was at. He had isco, bale (who was supposed to be a right winger btw), benzema and Marcelo coming at him. No shame to struggle against these world class players.

I'm willing to give him more time but with the increased pressure to perform with our title aspirations, he may not get more time.

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Funny you mention that tbh. Was talking about Pallister today with a mate at work, said pretty much what you just said. Watched a few old VCR reviews and Pallister was all over the shop at the start of his career.

They definately target his side yesterday. There was a few times he did well when one on one with Bale. After seeing the match again didn't notice any mistakes aerial wise. Got caught out most with quick movement/runners and people drifting in behind. That can be cured easy with better communication with the FB and a bit more time with the team.

Felt a lot of fans were harsh on him for the first goal, considering he was in line with the rest of the back 4. Can't help the offside goal stood. Also noticed after seeing the match and various replays. That Isco actually clipped Matic after the one two with Bale, hence why Matic fell over instead of following Isco run.
 
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