The Manchester United Thread

It's risk vs reward though. In the past, Guardiola's teams have been beaten by teams that press high, probably more than by those that park the bus. But to execute the high press is extremely difficult, and there is the risk that you'll get torn apart if they can play through it. Getting the high press right is arguably the best way to beat him, it's just extremely difficult to do

I didn't watch the game against Spurs so don't know whether it was approached correctly but City have shown they can break down teams with 10 men behind the ball. To try to cut them off at the source by pressing high is brave, but Spurs are one of the teams that, in form (which they're not), could pull it off.
 
Tosin Kehinde been called up by Mourinho to train with the first team, after a good season so far with the u23s. Hopefully gets some mins in the Cup. Good little player reminds me a lot of Essien. And The young lad from the white caps in America will join next year now after clubs reached an agreement.

Nice to see City singing about us after there win yesterday :)
 
PatrickLFC said:
It's risk vs reward though. In the past, Guardiola's teams have been beaten by teams that press high, probably more than by those that park the bus. But to execute the high press is extremely difficult, and there is the risk that you'll get torn apart if they can play through it. Getting the high press right is arguably the best way to beat him, it's just extremely difficult to do

I didn't watch the game against Spurs so don't know whether it was approached correctly but City have shown they can break down teams with 10 men behind the ball. To try to cut them off at the source by pressing high is brave, but Spurs are one of the teams that, in form (which they're not), could pull it off.
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Absolutely spot on, my thoughts entirely.

Kills me to say it but Spurs were kind of my last saloon for City following a similar path to last season. I mean where they started the league really well, but then in December the defeat to Spurs then kind of spiralled their downward slide.

With that victory though, you just get the sense that the downward spiral won't be coming and City are too strong this season to be stopped.

I still don't like how people would ever try to justify Jose's tactics personally in our game vs City, it was quite frankly, embarrassing for me how anyone tries to justify a team assembled of hunderds of millions yet try to convince us that it's the only way we can play.
 
Spurs didn't play with risk. Spurs didn't play, and then they lost their heads. As bad as our approach was, theirs was even worse.
 
Never seen anything of the game but 'Spurs heads seem to be going all over the last month or so.

Long may may that continue.
 
Scouseinthehouse said:
Never seen anything of the game but 'Spurs heads seem to be going all over the last month or so.

Long may may that continue.
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Stupid, petulant, and rudderless. They should have finished with 9 men and it didn't really look like they had a gameplan once they conceded the first goal
 
No personnel love for Pochettino either.

Any manager who openly says the domestic cups are beneath him and his club is a manager I'd want NOTHING to do with. Even less so when it comes from a guy who's won absolutely F all the game as a coach from a club with a WHOPPING trophy haul of TWO League Cups in the last 26 years.

That, coupled with his total disdain for the Europa League when it gets to the Spring makes the fella's arrogance, with nothing to back it up, astounding.
 
PatrickLFC said:
Getting the high press right is arguably the best way to beat him, it's just extremely difficult to do
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Here's the thing though - they've had the best pressing team in the league...before they hired Mourinho.
 
zzeezzy said:
Absolutely spot on, my thoughts entirely.

Kills me to say it but Spurs were kind of my last saloon for City following a similar path to last season. I mean where they started the league really well, but then in December the defeat to Spurs then kind of spiralled their downward slide.

With that victory though, you just get the sense that the downward spiral won't be coming and City are too strong this season to be stopped.

I still don't like how people would ever try to justify Jose's tactics personally in our game vs City, it was quite frankly, embarrassing for me how anyone tries to justify a team assembled of hunderds of millions yet try to convince us that it's the only way we can play.
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Im sure Spurs, Pool, Arsenal fans found there defeats embarrassing despite having equally good teams. End of the day City are just better than everyone else atm. Only team that’s come close to them this season is Napoli.
 
Sarri is the manager I want after Jose. Get him to do his 3 years, stabilise us. Sarri in
 
What stops this cycle of Pep and City dominance then if we persist with Mourinho?

I'm not saying we shouldn't but I'm just curious because by your own admission Jose will never change and both teams getting stronger inevitably won't make much difference to the end factor of City still being better under Pep.
 
zzeezzy said:
What stops this cycle of Pep and City dominance then if we persist with Mourinho?

I'm not saying we shouldn't but I'm just curious because by your own admission Jose will never change and both teams getting stronger inevitably won't make much difference to the end factor of City still being better under Pep.
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For one need to stop dropping points to the likes of Saints and Brighton I think it was. 2 let Mourinho build and get more players of his own in. 3 the big games come down to usually such small margins as Scouse eluded to. Peno against you. Extra extra overtime goals. Flukey winners. Conceding from silly set pieces. Bad reffing.
 
Theatre of Dreams83 said:
Exactly. Plus Pool and Arsenal both dropped points tonight. Don’t know what the heck happened either. Had to re-register as nothing I tried would let me login. And my email account won’t open :(
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Just like me losing my account. Are your previous posts still available?
 
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It’s curtains for Blind and Darmian in Jan imo.
 
Herrera and Rashford terrible so far. Typical game against WBA. Lots of ball but no creativity when we get to there 18 yard box. Gonna be a slog this!


Lukakuuuuuuuuu :)
 
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