The Manchester United Thread

Said it 4 games ago. Get that boring **** out of this club

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Don't like the "what has Poch won?" narrative myself. He has worked wonders in his time in England, the only reason a couple have raised an eyebrow to him this season is because of his own set high standards. Developed English players to world class/top domestic levels in Kane, Rose, Walker, Lallana, Alli, Dier (if you like, not a fan myself) etc. Always seems to sign good CB's with Van Dijk, Alderweireld, Sanchez etc.

Yes he has a poor away record against big sides (let's ignore the fact he raped Liverpool and Real Madrid this season at home though?!), yes a couple of his signings have been questionable (Sissoko, Janssen), but name me a manager who is perfect? At least he plays good football and puts up ridiculously impressive fights domestically with a fraction of City and recourses.

I for one would love to see him at a club with the recourses to support whatever profiles/players he wants. If not here, then somewhere. Imagine if he had Martial instead of Son, Pogba instead of Dembele, etc.

Kane is gone to Madrid or somewhere soon, so it's not like he'll be downgrading strikers.
 
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zzeezzy said:
Finished higher than us in the league last season though.

Yes they have their flaws, but Mourinho's big game record is woeful as well, especially away from home. At least they play to win and have an identity.

The grass isn't always greener, but Pochettino has improved Spurs a lot since being there. Anyone would be a fool to think not.

Plus, it is Spurs, they don't really have the right to be competing against the teams they are. Their resources are far less than City, United and Chelsea.
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Finished higher than us and won nothing despite this great identity they have. And you honestly think Mourinho doesn’t send his team out to win. Should of been 3/4-0 up or at least 34/-1 up at HT. We’ve improved under Mourinho too. But he still should be doing better though.
 
RhQQ said:
Don't like the "what has Poch won?" narrative myself. He has worked wonders in his time in England, the only reason a couple have raised an eyebrow to him this season is because of his own set high standards. Developed English players to world class/top domestic levels in Kane, Rose, Walker, Lallana, Alli, Dier (if you like, not a fan myself) etc. Always seems to sign good CB's with Van Dijk, Alderweireld, Sanchez etc.

Yes he has a poor away record against big sides (let's ignore the fact he raped Liverpool and Real Madrid this season at home though?!), yes a couple of his signings have been questionable (Sissoko, Janssen), but name me a manager who is perfect? At least he plays good football and puts up ridiculously impressive fights domestically with a fraction of City and recourses.

I for one would love to see him at a club with the recourses to support whatever profiles/players he wants. If not here, then somewhere. Imagine if he had Martial instead of Son, Pogba instead of Dembele, etc.

Kane is gone to Madrid or somewhere soon, so it's not like he'll be downgrading strikers.
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Yes his budget ain’t as big as other clubs I give him that he’s done well in that respect. But Spurs have a class team and good depth and last season was the same. And despite this he still hasn’t pushed on or looks like will be challenging again this season in the league or most likely the cups. Just don’t get the serious love in but maybe that’s just me thinking he should be doing slightly better. As should Mourinho.
 
There's quite a few good progressing managers out there who have an identity but are also great at improving players.

The only real reason I prefer Pochettino over someone like Sarri is because of the Premier League experience Pochettino has.

Not that it necessarily means a lot but even Pep needed a season to adapt to English football. It would cut that out.
 
wkdsoul said:
Could have easy rested him today, any of those will do.. Just seems odd to complain you need to rest him, and then throw into a what should be a comfortable home win. I'd have put his fitness first, not point him getting confidence today to get benched coz hes need the rest again.. I'd have gone the other way.
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Knowing how he works, it's two-fold isn't it .....

Deflect criticism from yourself by making out you've a lack of options.

Send a message to those higher up in the club that you're having to flog someone to death as Ibrahimovic is out for a month and you've nobody else of a similar calibre to rest him. So go out and get me someone big.

All utter nonsense when there's Rashford and Martial like. But we know that's the way he try's to psychological frame things to his own end.
 
Scouseinthehouse said:
Knowing how he works, it's two-fold isn't it .....

Deflect criticism from yourself by making out you've a lack of options.

Send a message to those higher up in the club that you're having to flog someone to death as Ibrahimovic is out for a month and you've nobody else of a similar calibre to rest him. So go out and get me someone big.

All utter nonsense when there's Rashford and Martial like. But we know that's the way he try's to psychological frame things to his own end.
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Not that I totally disagree with you. But have you seen Rashford most of this season :( Martial could of defo been tried uptop though.
 
He's not been helped at all though when you continue to insist on playing him wide when he's not a natural winger. Just because he's pacey. No wonder his confidence is at a real low ebb.

Just a personal opinion but looking at his skill set coming through, if he'd of continued being developed as a centre-forward at this level he'd be a heck of a lot further on and a real dangerous one right now.
 
Tyton said:
And there we go with another embarrassing interview. Is he really going to blame the referee when Young should be given straight red and will almost definitely get a ban?

The man has lost the plot.
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are you aware who Jose Mourinho Is ?? His whole blame everyone is what he does best, He deflects everything away from the blatant obvious and puts the focus and spotlight onto himself always has done! You don't see the major talking points being at how poor his teams do in certain games the attention and media make the spotlight about Jose making ludacris comments which then stops the press on most occasions from hammering the team.


People need to remember as much as he has had plenty of cash to do so Jose is having to rebuild and brand a football club, He is still managing players that won the league when Sir Alex was in charge and attempting to make Fellaini a player as well as dealing with many other players that were signed under Moyes & LVG, It will take him IMO another 3 transfer windows to get it going the exact way he wants it.
 
Rashford does look better when he's through the middle, but he's also not consistent/prolific enough to lead the line for us. So its a dilemma, I do understand playing him wide if it means him getting plenty of football/experience, instead of coming off the bench for 10 mins every match, and a cup game here and there. However I do think Martial is a ready made 20+ goalscorer down the middle, the guy is ice cold in front of goal. Just none of the coaches see him as a natural 9, which is a pity as I think he has all the ingredients
 
I was going to add 'And the same with Martial.' But anytime I have it's invariably gotten shot down that 'he's a winger and was at Monaco.'

Glad I'm not alone on that looking from the outside in at the player.
 
Pochettino has an even worse record than Jose. No thanks. Premiership knowledge is overrated. Also sacking a manager while second in the league us beyond stupid.
 
Worse record in what though Mike? We can't base managerial suitability around away records v top 6. His side have struggled a little early doors at Wembley and with the injury troubles in midfield, but they've carried on with 0 complaints. He's a top manager and he's made a lot of above average players into world beaters.
 
Not saying we should sack Jose tomorrow morning, just saying it'd best to replace him in the summer. Nothing personal, just think its the way forward.
 
The GallantPioneer1872 said:
are you aware who Jose Mourinho Is ?? His whole blame everyone is what he does best, He deflects everything away from the blatant obvious and puts the focus and spotlight onto himself always has done! You don't see the major talking points being at how poor his teams do in certain games the attention and media make the spotlight about Jose making ludacris comments which then stops the press on most occasions from hammering the team.
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Bud, please. Back in a day this **** maybe worked, but no one has been falling for this nonsense in ages. Not the media, not the fans, and certainly not the players. He's in a worst place to be pretending an underdog, because even a child knows which is the bigger and more powerful club in Manchester. The fact that he doesn't seem to realize this speaks volumes.

His last two jobs ended up in flames exactly because of behavior like this, and you seriously want to believe this is some brilliant strategist who psychologically destabilizes the opposition? It's just an old man yelling at the cloud.
 
Would you guys take Allegri in the summer if Jose were to part ways? My mate wants him, but he's just a slightly less pragmatic version of Jose if CL final is anything to go by. Mind you they did do a number on Barca
 
Scouseinthehouse said:
He's not been helped at all though when you continue to insist on playing him wide when he's not a natural winger. Just because he's pacey. No wonder his confidence is at a real low ebb.

Just a personal opinion but looking at his skill set coming through, if he'd of continued being developed as a centre-forward at this level he'd be a heck of a lot further on and a real dangerous one right now.
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He was actually played as a 10 or a wide player at youth level. Until just before he got promoted to the first team, when he got a few games up top at u 21/3 level.
 
RhQQ said:
..... He's a top manager and he's made a lot of above average players into world beaters.
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Wouldn't add Lallana's one year under him as you did previous mate.

He was far from great when we said him. And most everyone would have had him down as one of the first out the door when Klopp first arrived. Heck, he couldn't even get through much more than an hour of games.

The transformation in him has all come the past two and a half years or so.
 
RhQQ said:
Would you guys take Allegri in the summer if Jose were to part ways? My mate wants him, but he's just a slightly less pragmatic version of Jose if CL final is anything to go by. Mind you they did do a number on Barca
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Basically swapping like for like.
 
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