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TotalFootballFan9 said:
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Guys, I've updated Attacking version to V4.

Download Attacking version to V4 - TFF_UNREAL(_ATTACK_)_V4




NEW GUIDE WHEN TO USE ATTAKING AND DEFENSIVE VERSION HAS BEEN ADDED TO OP!

Guys, I want to share the method I use that can help further boost your results.

I've found that Attacking version can be used against some formations with great success almost without risk for you to be hammered in defense.



Here you can see the list of formations against I would recommend to use ATTACKING version:

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But if you see that opposition uses these formations I would recommend to use DEFENSIVE version:

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VERY IMPORTANT:

Please, bear in mind that AI teams almost always change their formations during the match depend on what is going on so you must always keep your eyes on opposition formation. For example, they can start match with 4-1DM-2-2-1 and then change to 4-2-3-1 or 4-4-2 or any other , usually it happens in 2nd half and AI teams change formation a lot during the second half.

BUT IF YOU LEAD BY 2 GOALS THEN SWITCH FOR DEFENSIVE VERSION NO MATTER WHAT FORMATION OPOSITION USES.
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bump for more visibility ;)




batrambo said:
Maybe there are some new young players who dont yet have the filters settings but are good enough ?:) can u give me some names please would be great
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In order to find young wonderkids you can "easy" match conditions in filters but be careful and always check how far away their key attributes from minimal recommended levels for these attributes. I would recommend they have it no more than 1 point less and in case if player is extremely talented few attributes can be 2 point less.
 
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so i lower like everything or few -1 and see if i get some new name to pop up yes :-)? will try that!, also what about if the player is really good but Complete forward isnt in hes top 3/4 role, can i buy it and train him to become complete forward, or u recommend to buy some one who is already top 3/4 in that role?
 
batrambo said:
so i lower like everything or few -1 and see if i get some new name to pop up yes :-)? will try that!, also what about if the player is really good but Complete forward isnt in hes top 3/4 role, can i buy it and train him to become complete forward, or u recommend to buy some one who is already top 3/4 in that role?
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I don't look on "star" rating CA of the player because it's only opinion of your assistant manager/scout and it's based on your current team and their(***. manager/scout) attributes.

I always look only at attributes and PA of the player and it isn’t that hard to tell how his attributes will look when he reaches his full potential.

If you need some orienteer how ideal complete forward should look like you can check Rooney, Suarez, Lewandowski, Diego Costa, Robin Van Persie – all these players have CA about 170.

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how play against this?
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Yup, evo87 said right – defensive.
 
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One thing I'm noticing is that a lot of the time my strikers get very low ratings. I am United so it's mainly Van Persie and Rooney up front but they always get 6.5 - 7 ratings and very rarely score a brace of goals as they should be doing. It certainly doesn't make RVP the 20 goals a season man he should be.

I'm not complaining because we are 8 points clear at the top but it would just be nice to have my world class strikers doing better. It feels a bit strange saying "Your performance was great" to the team when everyone is on 7.5 - 8 ratings and they are on 6 - 6.8 ratings even though it doesn't seem to be their fault.

EDIT - Just managed a laughable draw away from home against 17th place fulham using the defensive version. I'm afraid the defensive version is absolutely pathetic against the small teams away from home. I have either lost or drew every away game that I should be winning with ease. I only use it against the formations that were mentioned earlier too. It's on the verge of costing me the league I think. All of my players get ratings of 6 - 6.8 90% of the time when I use it and we create no chances at all. Maybe you should make a formation that actually works against the small teams TTF because it's garbage at the moment for me I'm afraid :(

I think the problem with the defensive version is that, even when I use it at home, we score a goal form a corner or penalty or something similar and then we do absolutely NOTHING for the rest of the match. The game just ticks away with nothing happening. It just doesn't seem like it creates enough chances at all for me.
 
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Using Wolves and in my 4th season. In the championship. I tried my own tactic this season and it has gone pretty awful so far. The average CA of my best starting 11 is about 129. Got a few long term injuries on some of my better players which means it's probably less than that now, but I'm losing against teams who are no where near as good as my team. So my last resort is to just change tactics. Do you think this tactic will work for me?
 
Arrow said:
TFF this tactic in my opinion work great alone with a medium high team with small team not is good!
Do you confirm?
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No... I won league 2 with Mansfield first season last night and there tipped for relegation .
 
Arrow said:
TFF this tactic in my opinion work great alone with a medium high team with small team not is good!
Do you confirm?
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Arrow, I say if you are going to use only Defensive or Attacking version then your result will be nowhere near as good as you follow the guide and It doesn't matter big or small club you are.

I see only one disadvantage of this system – almost every team requires a small rebuilding. As you can see the tactics don’t use wingers/inside forwards so if your wingers/inside forwards can’t play Strikers and AMC positions or their attributes don’t suit at all for these position you need sell them and buy Strikers/AMs. Also you need at least 4 wing backs – 2 main and 2 for rotation and 5 players who can play Central Defender positions(3 main and 2 rotation).

But if you are ready to put effort in team rebuilding then at final you will greatly rewarded for that.
 
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@TotalFootballFan9 - I've just played Real Madrid in the champions league quarter final. They play a 4 2 3 1 which has 4 defenders (dl, dc, dc, dr), 2 defensive midfielders, 3 attacking midfielders (amr, aml, amc) and 1 striker. I played the defensive formation against this and at home they stuffed me badly 2 nil. In the second leg away they played the same formation so I tried and again they hammered me 2 nil.

How do I avoid this against teams like this when going for the champions league?
 
I developed the second season syndrome somewhere around late December and started using this tactic.
In my second season with Sociedad and I overcame a 4:2 first leg defeat against Barca, winning 3:0 at home.
Also won the Champions League final 1-0 against Tottenham, finished 3rd in the league, behind Barca and Madrid, who were untouchable to be honest.

Great tactics!

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LIVERBIRD1892 said:
I developed the second season syndrome somewhere around late December and started using this tactic.
In my second season with Sociedad and I overcame a 4:2 first leg defeat against Barca, winning 3:0 at home.
Also won the Champions League final 1-0 against Tottenham, finished 3rd in the league, behind Barca and Madrid, who were untouchable to be honest.

Great tactics!

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Hi Liverbird. I'm going to start using these tactics with Liverpool so thought I'd ask a fellow red for some advice :) Can you give me any tips on what situations to use certain tactics, what tactics work best against certain champions league teams, when to switch to different versions, what sort of players have worked for you etc?

I've tried a season as Man united (playing as them for the first time ever) and Rooney was pretty awful and RVP was just okay. We did win the league however but got dumped out of the champions eague with ease by Real Madrid.
 
crew2 said:
Hi Liverbird. I'm going to start using these tactics with Liverpool so thought I'd ask a fellow red for some advice :) Can you give me any tips on what situations to use certain tactics, what tactics work best against certain champions league teams, when to switch to different versions, what sort of players have worked for you etc?

I've tried a season as Man united (playing as them for the first time ever) and Rooney was pretty awful and RVP was just okay. We did win the league however but got dumped out of the champions eague with ease by Real Madrid.
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Hi crew, well basically you have to do everything that's written in the first post. Look at the formations of your opponent at the begging and during the game and alter your tactis from ATT to DEF as necessary.

Never managed in Spain before and I have to say it's quite the test to face Real Madrid and Barcelona up to potentially 6 times each (2 league games, 2 cup games, 2 Champions League games) per season.

Going into my third season now, was robbed of my WBR due to his release clause and PSG paying the ridiculous amount of 42M for Martin Montoya. Can't seem to find a decent replacement.

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Regarding Liverpool: I find it always helpful to buy another decent midfielder and loan Allen for example. Trust Aspas at the beginning when Suarez is injured, he isn't as bad on FM as he was for us last season.
Invest in a decent right back as well mate.
 
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is it normal that my DM have the lowest rating in the whole team, i try with claudio yacub
, anita victor wanyama and all do perform around 6.7/6.8 while every other is like 7.10 or more ;/? im using TF UNREAL Defense v3 tactic 90% of the time.
is there some change i need to make to make them more effective maybe?
 
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