v0lliz JS tweak topic Main Striker scoring 100+ goals each season

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Might be being stupid here but what do you mean by the strikers swapping. Others were saying that the striker swaps with the CM - again I don't understand!
Left striker swaps position with the right sriker
 
decided to do a test with JStweak11 with the wingbacks dragged back to fullbacks to see if the tactic was still as good going forward and if it was a bit more solid at the back.

here are the results

< [TABLE="width: 438"]
[TR]
[TD="class: et2, width: 119"]TWEAK[/TD]
[TD="class: et2, width: 29"]Pld[/TD]
[TD="class: et2, width: 35"]Won[/TD]
[TD="class: et2, width: 30"]Drn[/TD]
[TD="class: et2, width: 29"]Lst[/TD]
[TD="class: et2, width: 32"]For[/TD]
[TD="class: et2, width: 64"]Ag[/TD]
[TD="class: et2, width: 64"]G. D[/TD]
[TD="class: et2, width: 39"]H.Pts[/TD]
[TD="class: et2, width: 40"]A.Pts[/TD]
[TD="class: et2, width: 39"]T.Pts[/TD]
[TD="class: et2, width: 64"]G.F.C[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: et1, width: 119"]Volliz Tweak 433[/TD]
[TD="class: et1, width: 29"]60[/TD]
[TD="class: et1, width: 35"]53[/TD]
[TD="class: et1, width: 30"]4[/TD]
[TD="class: et1, width: 29"]3[/TD]
[TD="class: et1, width: 32"]288[/TD]
[TD="class: et1, width: 64"]103[/TD]
[TD="class: et1, width: 64"]185[/TD]
[TD="class: et1, width: 39"]90[/TD]
[TD="class: et1, width: 40"]73[/TD]
[TD="class: et1, width: 39"]163[/TD]
[TD="class: et1, width: 64"]68[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: et1, width: 119"]JStweakv11[/TD]
[TD="class: et1, width: 29"]60[/TD]
[TD="class: et1, width: 35"]47[/TD]
[TD="class: et1, width: 30"]5[/TD]
[TD="class: et1, width: 29"]8[/TD]
[TD="class: et1, width: 32"]351[/TD]
[TD="class: et1, width: 64"]158[/TD]
[TD="class: et1, width: 64"]193[/TD]
[TD="class: et1, width: 39"]88[/TD]
[TD="class: et1, width: 40"]58[/TD]
[TD="class: et1, width: 39"]146[/TD]
[TD="class: et1, width: 64"]83[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: et1, width: 119"]JStweakv11 Flat4[/TD]
[TD="class: et1, width: 29"]60[/TD]
[TD="class: et1, width: 35"]46[/TD]
[TD="class: et1, width: 30"]7[/TD]
[TD="class: et1, width: 29"]7[/TD]
[TD="class: et1, width: 32"]325[/TD]
[TD="class: et1, width: 64"]120[/TD]
[TD="class: et1, width: 64"]205[/TD]
[TD="class: et1, width: 39"]87[/TD]
[TD="class: et1, width: 40"]58[/TD]
[TD="class: et1, width: 39"]145[/TD]
[TD="class: et1, width: 64"]82[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]
 
Totti I think this is the best we are going to get this year if I'm being honest, v11 home and lamp away
 
decided to do a test with JStweak11 with the wingbacks dragged back to fullbacks to see if the tactic was still as good going forward and if it was a bit more solid at the back.

here are the results

< [TABLE="width: 438"]
[TR]
[TD="class: et2, width: 119"]TWEAK[/TD]
[TD="class: et2, width: 29"]Pld[/TD]
[TD="class: et2, width: 35"]Won[/TD]
[TD="class: et2, width: 30"]Drn[/TD]
[TD="class: et2, width: 29"]Lst[/TD]
[TD="class: et2, width: 32"]For[/TD]
[TD="class: et2, width: 64"]Ag[/TD]
[TD="class: et2, width: 64"]G. D[/TD]
[TD="class: et2, width: 39"]H.Pts[/TD]
[TD="class: et2, width: 40"]A.Pts[/TD]
[TD="class: et2, width: 39"]T.Pts[/TD]
[TD="class: et2, width: 64"]G.F.C[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: et1, width: 119"]Volliz Tweak 433[/TD]
[TD="class: et1, width: 29"]60[/TD]
[TD="class: et1, width: 35"]53[/TD]
[TD="class: et1, width: 30"]4[/TD]
[TD="class: et1, width: 29"]3[/TD]
[TD="class: et1, width: 32"]288[/TD]
[TD="class: et1, width: 64"]103[/TD]
[TD="class: et1, width: 64"]185[/TD]
[TD="class: et1, width: 39"]90[/TD]
[TD="class: et1, width: 40"]73[/TD]
[TD="class: et1, width: 39"]163[/TD]
[TD="class: et1, width: 64"]68[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: et1, width: 119"]JStweakv11[/TD]
[TD="class: et1, width: 29"]60[/TD]
[TD="class: et1, width: 35"]47[/TD]
[TD="class: et1, width: 30"]5[/TD]
[TD="class: et1, width: 29"]8[/TD]
[TD="class: et1, width: 32"]351[/TD]
[TD="class: et1, width: 64"]158[/TD]
[TD="class: et1, width: 64"]193[/TD]
[TD="class: et1, width: 39"]88[/TD]
[TD="class: et1, width: 40"]58[/TD]
[TD="class: et1, width: 39"]146[/TD]
[TD="class: et1, width: 64"]83[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: et1, width: 119"]JStweakv11 Flat4[/TD]
[TD="class: et1, width: 29"]60[/TD]
[TD="class: et1, width: 35"]46[/TD]
[TD="class: et1, width: 30"]7[/TD]
[TD="class: et1, width: 29"]7[/TD]
[TD="class: et1, width: 32"]325[/TD]
[TD="class: et1, width: 64"]120[/TD]
[TD="class: et1, width: 64"]205[/TD]
[TD="class: et1, width: 39"]87[/TD]
[TD="class: et1, width: 40"]58[/TD]
[TD="class: et1, width: 39"]145[/TD]
[TD="class: et1, width: 64"]82[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

Will, I assume the "Volliz Tweak 433" is the Lamp tweak.

GFC I assume is as the game sees it (directly from a corner) and not the actual goals that are as a result of corners?

Cheers
 
To avoid all the questions i think it's better that somebody post the lamp version tweak and the V11 with a screenshot from his OI's and maybe the training also
 
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Yeah if someone could provide the Screens of the OI's and Training that would be awesome, or is it the same as the OI's from opening post ?
 
decided to do a test with JStweak11 with the wingbacks dragged back to fullbacks to see if the tactic was still as good going forward and if it was a bit more solid at the back.

here are the results

< [TABLE="width: 438"]
[TR]
[TD="class: et2, width: 119"]TWEAK[/TD]
[TD="class: et2, width: 29"]Pld[/TD]
[TD="class: et2, width: 35"]Won[/TD]
[TD="class: et2, width: 30"]Drn[/TD]
[TD="class: et2, width: 29"]Lst[/TD]
[TD="class: et2, width: 32"]For[/TD]
[TD="class: et2, width: 64"]Ag[/TD]
[TD="class: et2, width: 64"]G. D[/TD]
[TD="class: et2, width: 39"]H.Pts[/TD]
[TD="class: et2, width: 40"]A.Pts[/TD]
[TD="class: et2, width: 39"]T.Pts[/TD]
[TD="class: et2, width: 64"]G.F.C[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: et1, width: 119"]Volliz Tweak 433[/TD]
[TD="class: et1, width: 29"]60[/TD]
[TD="class: et1, width: 35"]53[/TD]
[TD="class: et1, width: 30"]4[/TD]
[TD="class: et1, width: 29"]3[/TD]
[TD="class: et1, width: 32"]288[/TD]
[TD="class: et1, width: 64"]103[/TD]
[TD="class: et1, width: 64"]185[/TD]
[TD="class: et1, width: 39"]90[/TD]
[TD="class: et1, width: 40"]73[/TD]
[TD="class: et1, width: 39"]163[/TD]
[TD="class: et1, width: 64"]68[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: et1, width: 119"]JStweakv11[/TD]
[TD="class: et1, width: 29"]60[/TD]
[TD="class: et1, width: 35"]47[/TD]
[TD="class: et1, width: 30"]5[/TD]
[TD="class: et1, width: 29"]8[/TD]
[TD="class: et1, width: 32"]351[/TD]
[TD="class: et1, width: 64"]158[/TD]
[TD="class: et1, width: 64"]193[/TD]
[TD="class: et1, width: 39"]88[/TD]
[TD="class: et1, width: 40"]58[/TD]
[TD="class: et1, width: 39"]146[/TD]
[TD="class: et1, width: 64"]83[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: et1, width: 119"]JStweakv11 Flat4[/TD]
[TD="class: et1, width: 29"]60[/TD]
[TD="class: et1, width: 35"]46[/TD]
[TD="class: et1, width: 30"]7[/TD]
[TD="class: et1, width: 29"]7[/TD]
[TD="class: et1, width: 32"]325[/TD]
[TD="class: et1, width: 64"]120[/TD]
[TD="class: et1, width: 64"]205[/TD]
[TD="class: et1, width: 39"]87[/TD]
[TD="class: et1, width: 40"]58[/TD]
[TD="class: et1, width: 39"]145[/TD]
[TD="class: et1, width: 64"]82[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

LOL, very interesting that the JSweak11 with a flat back four have the least amount of points, but the highest GD :D
 
My new tweak on JStweak11 with a shadow striker instead of the ball winning midfielder.

< [TABLE="width: 438"]
[TR]
[TD="class: et2, width: 119"]TWEAK[/TD]
[TD="class: et2, width: 29"]Pld[/TD]
[TD="class: et2, width: 35"]Won[/TD]
[TD="class: et2, width: 30"]Drn[/TD]
[TD="class: et2, width: 29"]Lst[/TD]
[TD="class: et2, width: 32"]For[/TD]
[TD="class: et2, width: 64"]Ag[/TD]
[TD="class: et2, width: 64"]G. D[/TD]
[TD="class: et2, width: 39"]H.Pts[/TD]
[TD="class: et2, width: 40"]A.Pts[/TD]
[TD="class: et2, width: 39"]T.Pts[/TD]
[TD="class: et2, width: 64"]G.F.C[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: et1, width: 119"]Volliz Tweak 433[/TD]
[TD="class: et1, width: 29"]60[/TD]
[TD="class: et1, width: 35"]53[/TD]
[TD="class: et1, width: 30"]4[/TD]
[TD="class: et1, width: 29"]3[/TD]
[TD="class: et1, width: 32"]288[/TD]
[TD="class: et1, width: 64"]103[/TD]
[TD="class: et1, width: 64"]185[/TD]
[TD="class: et1, width: 39"]90[/TD]
[TD="class: et1, width: 40"]73[/TD]
[TD="class: et1, width: 39"]163[/TD]
[TD="class: et1, width: 64"]68[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: et1, width: 119"]JStweakv11 SHADOW[/TD]
[TD="class: et1, width: 29"]60[/TD]
[TD="class: et1, width: 35"]49[/TD]
[TD="class: et1, width: 30"]4[/TD]
[TD="class: et1, width: 29"]7[/TD]
[TD="class: et1, width: 32"]372[/TD]
[TD="class: et1, width: 64"]131[/TD]
[TD="class: et1, width: 64"]241[/TD]
[TD="class: et1, width: 39"]90[/TD]
[TD="class: et1, width: 40"]61[/TD]
[TD="class: et1, width: 39"]151[/TD]
[TD="class: et1, width: 64"]85[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: et1, width: 119"]JStweakv11[/TD]
[TD="class: et1, width: 29"]60[/TD]
[TD="class: et1, width: 35"]47[/TD]
[TD="class: et1, width: 30"]5[/TD]
[TD="class: et1, width: 29"]8[/TD]
[TD="class: et1, width: 32"]351[/TD]
[TD="class: et1, width: 64"]158[/TD]
[TD="class: et1, width: 64"]193[/TD]
[TD="class: et1, width: 39"]88[/TD]
[TD="class: et1, width: 40"]58[/TD]
[TD="class: et1, width: 39"]146[/TD]
[TD="class: et1, width: 64"]83[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: et1, width: 119"]JStweakv11 Flat4[/TD]
[TD="class: et1, width: 29"]60[/TD]
[TD="class: et1, width: 35"]46[/TD]
[TD="class: et1, width: 30"]7[/TD]
[TD="class: et1, width: 29"]7[/TD]
[TD="class: et1, width: 32"]325[/TD]
[TD="class: et1, width: 64"]120[/TD]
[TD="class: et1, width: 64"]205[/TD]
[TD="class: et1, width: 39"]87[/TD]
[TD="class: et1, width: 40"]58[/TD]
[TD="class: et1, width: 39"]145[/TD]
[TD="class: et1, width: 64"]82[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]
 
decided to do a test with JStweak11 with the wingbacks dragged back to fullbacks to see if the tactic was still as good going forward and if it was a bit more solid at the back.

here are the results

< [TABLE="width: 438"]
[TR]
[TD="class: et2, width: 119"]TWEAK[/TD]
[TD="class: et2, width: 29"]Pld[/TD]
[TD="class: et2, width: 35"]Won[/TD]
[TD="class: et2, width: 30"]Drn[/TD]
[TD="class: et2, width: 29"]Lst[/TD]
[TD="class: et2, width: 32"]For[/TD]
[TD="class: et2, width: 64"]Ag[/TD]
[TD="class: et2, width: 64"]G. D[/TD]
[TD="class: et2, width: 39"]H.Pts[/TD]
[TD="class: et2, width: 40"]A.Pts[/TD]
[TD="class: et2, width: 39"]T.Pts[/TD]
[TD="class: et2, width: 64"]G.F.C[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: et1, width: 119"]Volliz Tweak 433[/TD]
[TD="class: et1, width: 29"]60[/TD]
[TD="class: et1, width: 35"]53[/TD]
[TD="class: et1, width: 30"]4[/TD]
[TD="class: et1, width: 29"]3[/TD]
[TD="class: et1, width: 32"]288[/TD]
[TD="class: et1, width: 64"]103[/TD]
[TD="class: et1, width: 64"]185[/TD]
[TD="class: et1, width: 39"]90[/TD]
[TD="class: et1, width: 40"]73[/TD]
[TD="class: et1, width: 39"]163[/TD]
[TD="class: et1, width: 64"]68[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: et1, width: 119"]JStweakv11[/TD]
[TD="class: et1, width: 29"]60[/TD]
[TD="class: et1, width: 35"]47[/TD]
[TD="class: et1, width: 30"]5[/TD]
[TD="class: et1, width: 29"]8[/TD]
[TD="class: et1, width: 32"]351[/TD]
[TD="class: et1, width: 64"]158[/TD]
[TD="class: et1, width: 64"]193[/TD]
[TD="class: et1, width: 39"]88[/TD]
[TD="class: et1, width: 40"]58[/TD]
[TD="class: et1, width: 39"]146[/TD]
[TD="class: et1, width: 64"]83[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: et1, width: 119"]JStweakv11 Flat4[/TD]
[TD="class: et1, width: 29"]60[/TD]
[TD="class: et1, width: 35"]46[/TD]
[TD="class: et1, width: 30"]7[/TD]
[TD="class: et1, width: 29"]7[/TD]
[TD="class: et1, width: 32"]325[/TD]
[TD="class: et1, width: 64"]120[/TD]
[TD="class: et1, width: 64"]205[/TD]
[TD="class: et1, width: 39"]87[/TD]
[TD="class: et1, width: 40"]58[/TD]
[TD="class: et1, width: 39"]145[/TD]
[TD="class: et1, width: 64"]82[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

I know that the ME needs to be reset / fooled once in a while by playing in a different formation.. because if you play in the same formation too long they get adjusted to it / your formation becomes less succesfull etc.

Therefore I am wondering, because ILoveLamp's tweak and JSv11 are quite similair if the fact that they have a difference in wingbacks vs fullbacks is enough to count as a reset/formation mix up to fool the match engine/AI.. if that is the case it might be better for most people that use ILoveLamp tweak and JStweakv11 (like I do) to keep both of them (even though both having flat defenders would be better because you can use your same players in the same spots), because that way when switching between the two you will constantly be resetting the ME/fooling the ME.

But I am just not sure if have fullbacks vs wingbacks is seen as a different enough formation in the eyes of the ME to make that work.. otherwise I could better start using your flat 4 tweak because then I do not have to worry about not having good wingbacks for v11 because I only have fullbacks.
 
My new tweak on JStweak11 with a shadow striker instead of the ball winning midfielder.

< [TABLE="width: 438"]
[TR]
[TD="class: et2, width: 119"]TWEAK[/TD]
[TD="class: et2, width: 29"]Pld[/TD]
[TD="class: et2, width: 35"]Won[/TD]
[TD="class: et2, width: 30"]Drn[/TD]
[TD="class: et2, width: 29"]Lst[/TD]
[TD="class: et2, width: 32"]For[/TD]
[TD="class: et2, width: 64"]Ag[/TD]
[TD="class: et2, width: 64"]G. D[/TD]
[TD="class: et2, width: 39"]H.Pts[/TD]
[TD="class: et2, width: 40"]A.Pts[/TD]
[TD="class: et2, width: 39"]T.Pts[/TD]
[TD="class: et2, width: 64"]G.F.C[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: et1, width: 119"]Volliz Tweak 433[/TD]
[TD="class: et1, width: 29"]60[/TD]
[TD="class: et1, width: 35"]53[/TD]
[TD="class: et1, width: 30"]4[/TD]
[TD="class: et1, width: 29"]3[/TD]
[TD="class: et1, width: 32"]288[/TD]
[TD="class: et1, width: 64"]103[/TD]
[TD="class: et1, width: 64"]185[/TD]
[TD="class: et1, width: 39"]90[/TD]
[TD="class: et1, width: 40"]73[/TD]
[TD="class: et1, width: 39"]163[/TD]
[TD="class: et1, width: 64"]68[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: et1, width: 119"]JStweakv11 SHADOW[/TD]
[TD="class: et1, width: 29"]60[/TD]
[TD="class: et1, width: 35"]49[/TD]
[TD="class: et1, width: 30"]4[/TD]
[TD="class: et1, width: 29"]7[/TD]
[TD="class: et1, width: 32"]372[/TD]
[TD="class: et1, width: 64"]131[/TD]
[TD="class: et1, width: 64"]241[/TD]
[TD="class: et1, width: 39"]90[/TD]
[TD="class: et1, width: 40"]61[/TD]
[TD="class: et1, width: 39"]151[/TD]
[TD="class: et1, width: 64"]85[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: et1, width: 119"]JStweakv11[/TD]
[TD="class: et1, width: 29"]60[/TD]
[TD="class: et1, width: 35"]47[/TD]
[TD="class: et1, width: 30"]5[/TD]
[TD="class: et1, width: 29"]8[/TD]
[TD="class: et1, width: 32"]351[/TD]
[TD="class: et1, width: 64"]158[/TD]
[TD="class: et1, width: 64"]193[/TD]
[TD="class: et1, width: 39"]88[/TD]
[TD="class: et1, width: 40"]58[/TD]
[TD="class: et1, width: 39"]146[/TD]
[TD="class: et1, width: 64"]83[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: et1, width: 119"]JStweakv11 Flat4[/TD]
[TD="class: et1, width: 29"]60[/TD]
[TD="class: et1, width: 35"]46[/TD]
[TD="class: et1, width: 30"]7[/TD]
[TD="class: et1, width: 29"]7[/TD]
[TD="class: et1, width: 32"]325[/TD]
[TD="class: et1, width: 64"]120[/TD]
[TD="class: et1, width: 64"]205[/TD]
[TD="class: et1, width: 39"]87[/TD]
[TD="class: et1, width: 40"]58[/TD]
[TD="class: et1, width: 39"]145[/TD]
[TD="class: et1, width: 64"]82[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

Nice, could you also include the latest Lovetweak dated 030615? Would be interesting to see even tho no-one play with that team in that league, but it give a pretty good indicator :)
 
I know that the ME needs to be reset / fooled once in a while by playing in a different formation.. because if you play in the same formation too long they get adjusted to it / your formation becomes less succesfull etc.

Therefore I am wondering, because ILoveLamp's tweak and JSv11 are quite similair if the fact that they have a difference in wingbacks vs fullbacks is enough to count as a reset/formation mix up to fool the match engine/AI.. if that is the case it might be better for most people that use ILoveLamp tweak and JStweakv11 (like I do) to keep both of them (even though both having flat defenders would be better because you can use your same players in the same spots), because that way when switching between the two you will constantly be resetting the ME/fooling the ME.

But I am just not sure if have fullbacks vs wingbacks is seen as a different enough formation in the eyes of the ME to make that work.. otherwise I could better start using your flat 4 tweak because then I do not have to worry about not having good wingbacks for v11 because I only have fullbacks.

you probably have a valid point, and i for one cant wait to start a new season trying this mix out :)
On the other hand, ive played seven seasons with the v0lliz-433 original and it just keep getting more efficient as seasons go by...
 
Which one are you going to try v0liz? Weird how there was better defence with the shadow striker will
 
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