What approach suits my team / I need a Tactic

[OsmosisJones]

Hello!
I need some help with my Cardiff City tactic:

Currently playing OKayish, second in Championship(first season). However I feel like I am not getting the maximum from my players. Here are the roles I am giving to them:

Tom Heaton(GK defend)
Seamus Coleman(FB automatic)
Lee Naylor(FB automatic)
Paul Quinn(CB + more defensive mentality,cuz he is a slow player) - does the strictly defensive mentality of that player cause problems in defense - like fuking up occasional offside traps, even though I am not using them?
Darcy Blake(CB)
Gavin McCann(Ball Winning M defend) - should I give him Hold Up Ball or not? He is tough but not technically skilled at all...
Stephen McPhail(Advanced Playmaker support)
Henry Lansbury(Wide Mid support) - no free role
Peter Whittingham(Winger attack) - I am giving him free role + high creativity + move into channels. However I am not pleased the way he is playing. Is he too slow and awkward in dribbling in order to shine at the winger position or perhaps I shoudn't move him into channels? I would like him to play Nedved style(Advanced Playmaker at the left winger position) but he can't really cut inside - very weak right foot...Hugging the touchline is not an option, since my forwards aren't very good at jumping/heading...
Jay Bothroyd(Deep-lying F support) - he ain't playing well too. I give him a little high creativity, "sometimes" run with ball, long shots and try through balls and normal wide play + hold up ball.
Craig Bellamy(Advanced F attack) - with free role and normal(not high) creativity.

Also looking for advice in signing reliable Welsh players, who will perform good in Premiership.

Thanks in advance!

 

[iggyefc]

- Team Everton
- Players Evertons current squad (0 signings, 0 sales)
- Season 1st season (2010/2011)

Would like to play how we currently play in real life. A passing game with arteta and pienaar allowed freedom to boss the midfield and fellaini sitting back to allow this. Would also like to reform the fantastic Baines/Pienaar partnership.

I dont know how to implement these, ive never really touched the more advanced sliders and ive always just used the tactics creator because i havnt got a clue who to give what creative freedom, mentality etc. but i would love to make a tactic with these sliders.

Also,how could i set a player to drift into different positions? (drift left from amc, come deep to collect the ball from a more attacking position etc.)

Would like to know if this is the right approach to go for with everton and how i could make my team play like this.

Thanks

 

[whenray]

has anyone got any advice or a tactic to upload for newcastle that preferably gets the best out of ben arfa and andy carroll? been trying and failing since the full game came out

 

[collado_23]

Hello! I need some help with my Cardiff City tactic:

Currently playing OKayish, second in Championship(first season). However I feel like I am not getting the maximum from my players. Here are the roles I am giving to them:

Tom Heaton(GK defend)
Seamus Coleman(FB automatic)
Lee Naylor(FB automatic)
Paul Quinn(CB + more defensive mentality,cuz he is a slow player) - does the strictly defensive mentality of that player cause problems in defense - like fuking up occasional offside traps, even though I am not using them?
Darcy Blake(CB)
Gavin McCann(Ball Winning M defend) - should I give him Hold Up Ball or not? He is tough but not technically skilled at all...
Stephen McPhail(Advanced Playmaker support)
Henry Lansbury(Wide Mid support) - no free role
Peter Whittingham(Winger attack) - I am giving him free role + high creativity + move into channels. However I am not pleased the way he is playing. Is he too slow and awkward in dribbling in order to shine at the winger position or perhaps I shoudn't move him into channels? I would like him to play Nedved style(Advanced Playmaker at the left winger position) but he can't really cut inside - very weak right foot...Hugging the touchline is not an option, since my forwards aren't very good at jumping/heading...
Jay Bothroyd(Deep-lying F support) - he ain't playing well too. I give him a little high creativity, "sometimes" run with ball, long shots and try through balls and normal wide play + hold up ball.
Craig Bellamy(Advanced F attack) - with free role and normal(not high) creativity.

Also looking for advice in signing reliable Welsh players, who will perform good in Premiership.

Thanks in advance![/QUOTE]

Hey Osmosis, how do you want your team to play? I.E. Fast, slow, defensive.
I see you play a Rigid and Controlled system but then you have More Expressive creativity. You'd sort of have to play default on that one as opposed to Expressive...of course you can play creative (on the individual player instruction) on your midfielders, strikers, and winger. I know to combat a Rigid system to allow you to attack you'd have to be more creative. However if you do that, your defense gets broken easier like your saying your CB's are getting beat. So i'd do like Default or Disciplined on the Creative Freedom and allow your more creative players free roam instructions and more creativity. Also make sure you have "Look for Overlap" on your touchline instructions..this will allow your winger to find the gap and your full backs to attack the flanks.

Bothroyd isn't good enough from my experience with him to be a DLF. He's better as a support Target man thanks to his size and strength. While Bellamy is actually a better DLF or poacher.
McCann's not being technical works as an asset to him as a Ball Holder. That's exactly what you want a non technical no creative player to do. If you make him hold up the ball and pass shorter he will give off the ball to your more creative players.
Whittingham is actually a very good winger however as you already know, his pace and acceleration are low. A cheap option could be Adam Johnson (ManCity). I don't believe he's expensive or Shaun Wright Philips as they deliver almost the same finishing with better pace to beat defenders.
And your frustrations with your CB's has to deal with the fact they aren't great. However in my opinion you do have them in the proper instructions. The offside trap thing has to do with his positioning, decisions, and composure stats.
http://www.fm-base.co.uk/forum/editpost.php?do=editpost&p=774283

 

[zohan711]

I can't seem to find the perfect tactic for Barcelona. I'm in the second season.
Tried a few different tactics but none have made the team play really good.
What are your experiences?
Do you have any download links for a good barca tactic?

 

[zsashan]

Hi,

Team: Palermo( Italy)
players:
http://www.siz.co.il/my/zqjoyg2kn2yw.jpg
season: the first season.
as you can see I still didnt buy any player.

first time I play with Palermo. Which tactic should be suitable for my team?

 

[TheBetterHalf]

Hi,

Team: Palermo( Italy)
players:
http://www.siz.co.il/my/zqjoyg2kn2yw.jpg
season: the first season.
as you can see I still didnt buy any player.

first time I play with Palermo. Which tactic should be suitable for my team?

I would probably setup a narrow diamond, a 41212. Start with a control strategy at home and counter in most away games

I can't seem to find the perfect tactic for Barcelona. I'm in the second season.
Tried a few different tactics but none have made the team play really good.
What are your experiences?
Do you have any download links for a good barca tactic?

have a look at the Goals galore just a few threads down

 

[OsmosisJones]

Hey Osmosis, how do you want your team to play? I.E. Fast, slow, defensive.
I see you play a Rigid and Controlled system but then you have More Expressive creativity. You'd sort of have to play default on that one as opposed to Expressive...of course you can play creative (on the individual player instruction) on your midfielders, strikers, and winger. I know to combat a Rigid system to allow you to attack you'd have to be more creative. However if you do that, your defense gets broken easier like your saying your CB's are getting beat. So i'd do like Default or Disciplined on the Creative Freedom and allow your more creative players free roam instructions and more creativity. Also make sure you have "Look for Overlap" on your touchline instructions..this will allow your winger to find the gap and your full backs to attack the flanks.

Bothroyd isn't good enough from my experience with him to be a DLF. He's better as a support Target man thanks to his size and strength. While Bellamy is actually a better DLF or poacher.
McCann's not being technical works as an asset to him as a Ball Holder. That's exactly what you want a non technical no creative player to do. If you make him hold up the ball and pass shorter he will give off the ball to your more creative players.
Whittingham is actually a very good winger however as you already know, his pace and acceleration are low. A cheap option could be Adam Johnson (ManCity). I don't believe he's expensive or Shaun Wright Philips as they deliver almost the same finishing with better pace to beat defenders.
And your frustrations with your CB's has to deal with the fact they aren't great. However in my opinion you do have them in the proper instructions. The offside trap thing has to do with his positioning, decisions, and composure stats.

Aha, thanks, it's a little better with default freedom than more expressive. I used it cuz the squad I got has good creativity and I couldn't afford to play attacking style when I need goal because my defenders are very slow compared to most enemy strikers. But maybe players like Stephen McPhail(Adv Plm support) was allowed too much creativity for a CM.
Are you sure Look for Overlap is useful? Doesn't this require that the fullbacks have to be beasts like Maicon and also the wingers should be able to hold up ball? My strikers don't excell at heading too... I am not quite sure about the automatic option of my fullbacks too? Aren't they too weak to support attacking moves?
Can't afford Andy Johnson or Shaun Wright Philips in Championship. Wonder if Move in Channels is useful at all for Whittingham. What stats does it exactly require? High off-ball - he got it? Anticipation is good too. High acceleration too?

 

[fuelledbypassion]

Dortmund, Nov 2011 atm. Kroos and Srna is joining in Jan.

I have established a Flat 4 Defense with 2 DM Anchor, but not too sure what should I play in midfield and forward.

I play two wide players set as inside forwards, a supporting advanced playmaker and barrios/lewandowski as a poacher. I also use nuri sahin as a supporting deep lying playmaker and have had a lot of success playing direct, counter attacking football

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[Yopur]

Tried everything, can't even steal a draw recently. Help!



TEAM - CRYSTAL PALACE - POSITION - 19th (Championship) - DATE - 12/02/2011

(£0 transfer budget -£15k wage budget)


GK

Julian Speroni
Alex Smithies
Wesley Fotheringham


DF

Paddy McCarthy
Holmar Eyjolfsson (short loan)
James McPake
Nathaniel Clyne (loaned out)
Mark Howard
Adam Barrat
David Wright
Lee Hills


MF

Aron Gunnarsson
Darren Ambrose
Dave van den Bergh
Neil Danns
Edgar Davids
Andy Dorman
Owen Garvan (inj)
Craig Eastmond (short loan)
Anderson Silva
Keiron Cadogan (loaned out)
Keiran Djilali (loaned out)


ST

Freddy Eastwood
Joe Garner
Julio Cruz
Zavon Hines (short loan) (inj)
Jose Baxter (short loan) (inj)
Sean Scannell
Wilfred Zaha (loaned out)
Nathan Pinney

 

[daisuke]

Team - Liverpool
First season.
I attached my team and my current tactic. I want to know whether my current tactic is suitable for my team because this tactic is kinda weird(well at least for me anyway). If not, what tactic do you think is more suitable?

Reina - Goalkeeper(Defend)
Carragher - Central Defender(Stopper)
Agger - Limited defender(Cover)
Johnson - Wing back(Automatic)
Coentrao - Full back(Automatic)
Raul Meireles - Ball winning midfielder(Support)
Cole - Advanced playmaker(Support)
Hazard - Attacking midfielder(Support)
Gerrard - Attacking midfielder(Attack)
Torres - Complete forward(Attack)
Hulk - Poacher(Attack)

This is my preffered starting 11 so I hope you can build on that. Thanks in advance.

 

[collado_23]

Aha, thanks, it's a little better with default freedom than more expressive. I used it cuz the squad I got has good creativity and I couldn't afford to play attacking style when I need goal because my defenders are very slow compared to most enemy strikers. But maybe players like Stephen McPhail(Adv Plm support) was allowed too much creativity for a CM.
Are you sure Look for Overlap is useful? Doesn't this require that the fullbacks have to be beasts like Maicon and also the wingers should be able to hold up ball? My strikers don't excell at heading too... I am not quite sure about the automatic option of my fullbacks too? Aren't they too weak to support attacking moves?
Can't afford Andy Johnson or Shaun Wright Philips in Championship. Wonder if Move in Channels is useful at all for Whittingham. What stats does it exactly require? High off-ball - he got it? Anticipation is good too. High acceleration too?

Look for the Overlap is for attacking FB however it also serves as movement for players. While its great to have Maicon or Danny Alves for added scoring, in your case it would add movement from your front and back players. It sort of helps a rigid system when you have a little more player movement. Of course, its best to use it when you need a goal or want to threaten. However, if it appears your attacking the computer might play more defensive.
I've used it with good success with Queens Park (SFL Division three or like the English Conference for people not familiar with that league) when i used the rigid system like yourself. So trust me if you think your guys are bad imagine how bad my backline was. My budget was zero lol

Yeah unfortunately you're relegated to using the automatic option cause as you said your guys aren't good enough to do anything than just move around and play defense.

Moving into channels, in theory should work since its supposed to be a great trait for wingers and wide play strikers. Whittingham pretty much would go between the FB and CB. For moving into channels..its great to have as you said...High Off the Ball, and Anticipation. Acceleration isn't necessary persay since he's just looking for space out wide. If he was going down the flank, then Acceleration would matter more. Don't forget though, when you play on a narrow pitch its kinda pointless to have that cause there's no space to work. At that point, you'd have to have "Move into channels" to see a difference.

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Team - Liverpool
First season.
I attached my team and my current tactic. I want to know whether my current tactic is suitable for my team because this tactic is kinda weird(well at least for me anyway). If not, what tactic do you think is more suitable?

Reina - Goalkeeper(Defend)
Carragher - Central Defender(Stopper)
Agger - Limited defender(Cover)
Johnson - Wing back(Automatic)
Coentrao - Full back(Automatic)
Raul Meireles - Ball winning midfielder(Support)
Cole - Advanced playmaker(Support)
Hazard - Attacking midfielder(Support)
Gerrard - Attacking midfielder(Attack)
Torres - Complete forward(Attack)
Hulk - Poacher(Attack)

This is my preffered starting 11 so I hope you can build on that. Thanks in advance.

Well its not a horrible tactic. You definitely have a lot of talent to make it work. Play a few games out during exhibitions. You might be susceptible to teams that play wide and possession futbol (i.e. 4-5-1) and you might find congestion in terms of player movement and ball movement. In any case, play a few exhibitions and see how the games go. Honestly with the players you have you can use Liverpool's current 4-2-3-1 or a traditional 4-4-2.

 

[fuelledbypassion]

Team - Liverpool
First season.
I attached my team and my current tactic. I want to know whether my current tactic is suitable for my team because this tactic is kinda weird(well at least for me anyway). If not, what tactic do you think is more suitable?

Reina - Goalkeeper(Defend)
Carragher - Central Defender(Stopper)
Agger - Limited defender(Cover)
Johnson - Wing back(Automatic)
Coentrao - Full back(Automatic)
Raul Meireles - Ball winning midfielder(Support)
Cole - Advanced playmaker(Support)
Hazard - Attacking midfielder(Support)
Gerrard - Attacking midfielder(Attack)
Torres - Complete forward(Attack)
Hulk - Poacher(Attack)

This is my preffered starting 11 so I hope you can build on that. Thanks in advance.

I think your best option would be to play a narrow 4-2-3-1, which would obviously mean dropping hulk unless you can retrain him as an amc. I'd play meirelles and gerrard in the centre, with cole, hazard and hulk/veratti/kevin in the attacking midfield positions

 

[daisuke]

I think your best option would be to play a narrow 4-2-3-1, which would obviously mean dropping hulk unless you can retrain him as an amc. I'd play meirelles and gerrard in the centre, with cole, hazard and hulk/veratti/kevin in the attacking midfield positions

I dont want to drop Hulk after I paid 16M for him oO). And Hazard is injured..

 

[fuelledbypassion]

I dont want to drop Hulk after I paid 16M for him oO). And Hazard is injured..

narrow diamond?

 

[Izakss]

i just started with red bull salzburg.havent bought anyone havent sold anyone,can someone recomend me a starting point for a tactic.i would really appreciate it

 

[ismetcan2]

Beşiktas
2010-2011
couldnt upload the screenshot.
Goalkeepers
Rustu recber
Hakan arikan
cenk gonen


defenders:
ibrahim toraman
tomas zapotocny
matteo ferrari
ersan adem gülüm
tomas sivok
erhan güven
ismail köybası
ibrahim üzülmez
ridvan simsek
ekrem dag


midfielders:
mehmet aurelio
fabian ernst
necip uysal
onur bayramoglu
michael fink
guti hernandez
ricardo quaresma
roberto hilbert
rodrigo tabata
yusuf simsek


strikers:
bobo
nobre
holosko
nihat kahveci
fatih tekke

 

[Fragnat]

Team: Arsenal
Season: 2010
Team screenshot:

I want to base my tactic around Aquino since hes a very promising prospect.

 

[daisuke]

Well its not a horrible tactic. You definitely have a lot of talent to make it work. Play a few games out during exhibitions. You might be susceptible to teams that play wide and possession futbol (i.e. 4-5-1) and you might find congestion in terms of player movement and ball movement. In any case, play a few exhibitions and see how the games go. Honestly with the players you have you can use Liverpool's current 4-2-3-1 or a traditional 4-4-2.

Didnt realize your post..first of all,thanks so much. Well I didnt use this tactic much since I didnt get good results from it..draw 0-0 against birmingham (home),lost 1-0 to Arsenal (away) who didnt win their last 3games and lost 2-1 to ManCity (away). Draw 1-1 against Getafe (away). -----Now I really hate away games----won 2-1 against cardiff but both goals came in the last 10minutes and I had to bring in Torres at half time. He scored all goals. The only good result I get from this tactic is against Wigan; won 5-1(home). And obviously I'm nearing the relegation zone until I use 4-2-1-3(had to change the tactic since both Gerrard and Hazard is injured). Won 2-0 against Newcastle(home) and 4-1 against Fulham(away). Won 6-0 against Randers FC(home).For the first time since I played FM, my job is insecure...never happen before in FM08 and FM10...

Of course my poor results is also based on the fact that I had to get at least 5chances to score a single goal as the players seem to miss chances for fun. Hope FM fixed this in the new patch as it's only starting to annoy me and I almost give up after playing for 3days.

I dont have good wingers so dont think that 4-4-2 will work well. Thanks for your advice.

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narrow diamond?

Thanks so much for your advice! um but what is narrow diamond?

 

[TheBetterHalf]

thanks so much for your advice! Um but what is narrow diamond?

dmc - mc, mc - amc