nufc i was refering to assists etc too, owen has to be one of the most overated forwards in england, but anyway back to the thread zarate has had one good game which was man city and everyone thinks he is awesome and has suddendly forgot the stick he was getting the games before then. He also got a bit of stick on saturday at wigan because of his playing for himself type of game. All i said was i would prefer mcfadden in the team to zarate and its turned into this big argument. Zarate would be more suited to the spanish league with all the diving they do over there, he already has a rep of diving over here in his 7 apperances or so and has already been booked, he just isnt the type of player we need in a relegation battle, most of our fans would rather have de ridder in the team but for some reason mcleish isnt giving him a look in.