2014 World Cup thread

Alcaraz said:
I find it tough to blame Hodgson for our performances in the WC. Against Italy, we were good but very unlucky to come away with nothing. Against Uruguay, we were woeful but still would have come away with a point if it wasn't for another match-winning assist from Captain Slippy and some ****** defending subsequently

However, we got a decent group of youngsters coming through. I just don't think Hodgson is the right man to bring them into the England fold. He is such an uninspiring choice
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What did he do?

Squad wise, he arguably got it wrong by leaving Cole at home.
Tactics wise, he arguably got it wrong with Rooney's role and with a lot of smaller details.
Motivation wise, he arguably got it wrong as we looked way too cautious for too long yesterday.

If you're struggling with the 3 main areas of management, something is wrong.
 
LFCMarshall said:
What does Scholes mean? Laughable you are even asking that... Just sit back and think about it

Then think why Suarez was in the position he was... Because he sensed a flick on of some sort and the defenders didnt. It is basic defending to drop of from a goal kick to stop these things occuring

Gerrard, Lampard, Wilshere ETC, It doesn't matter. It was a poor header but the blame lies with the poor defence
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Suarez was offside if anyone but an England player flicked it on to him. The defence probably didn't expect Gerrard to play the ball to his feet and can you blame them?
 
zzeezzy said:
Rather have Harry Redknapp.... Roy Hodgson didn't even earn himself to the job... he was absolutely **** at Liverpool.
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No thanks. I am a Spurs fan and he is just in it for his ego. He would not be any better than Roy. His favoured tactic is 4-4-2 and has no plan B.

As for Hoddle he has been out the game of managing too long. He might have all the talk but thats it.

Maybe for once this countries fans should stop pointing the finger at the manager and look at the players and how they underperform when they put on a England shirt. They have no pride yet players for Brazil, Germany and the like are always passionate about the national team. Lets look further than just blaming the manager.
 
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Subtle said:
What did he do?

Squad wise, he arguably got it wrong by leaving Cole at home.
Tactics wise, he arguably got it wrong with Rooney's role and with a lot of smaller details.
Motivation wise, he arguably got it wrong as we looked way too cautious for too long yesterday.

If you're struggling with the 3 main areas of management, something is wrong.
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To be fair, Cole barely played and Baines is a seasoned head so I can see why Hodgson would leave Cole out. Hindsight is always 20/20 and it would have been nice to have Cole in the squad but I don't think anyone expected Baines to play so poorly

Completely agree with you on tactics and man-management. He has never been famed for either. But there are absolutely no better alternatives out there sadly
 
I wonder if Roy has noticed how ordinary Italy and Uruguay can be made to look by simply closing them down...probably not.
 
Alcaraz said:
Except guess what? The flick on came from Gerrard, the opposing player. Stop it mate, it's getting embarrassing
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Subtle said:
Suarez was offside if anyone but an England player flicked it on to him. The defence probably didn't expect Gerrard to play the ball to his feet and can you blame them?
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Gerrard was partly to blame, I'm not doubting that but it is **** poor defending

And the majority of the pundits seem to agree entirely. Sunday League defending has cost us this World Cup
 
Well said, you must remember Rooney missed 2 sitters as well.

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LFCMarshall said:
Gerrard was partly to blame, I'm not doubting that but it is **** poor defending
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The majority of the blame lies with Gerrard. The defence's decision to try and play Suarez offside was stupid, but they didn't physically hand Suarez the ball in the worst possible area.

Alcaraz said:
To be fair, Cole barely played and Baines is a seasoned head so I can see why Hodgson would leave Cole out. Hindsight is always 20/20 and it would have been nice to have Cole in the squad but I don't think anyone expected Baines to play so poorly
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I don't think taking Baines was a bad idea at all, but taking Shaw and then not playing him when it counts seems daft. That spot could have gone to Cole.


Completely agree with you on tactics and man-management. He has never been famed for either. But there are absolutely no better alternatives out there sadly
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Unless we go back to using foreigners, which would be fine by me.
 
LFCMarshall said:
Gerrard was partly to blame, I'm not doubting that but it is **** poor defending

And the majority of the pundits seem to agree entirely. Sunday League defending has cost us this World Cup
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No one actually denies that **** defending has cost us this World Cup mate. Just saying that Gerrard had a big role to play in Suarez' goal which is undeniable
 
Subtle said:
I don't think taking Baines was a bad idea at all, but taking Shaw and then not playing him when it counts seems daft. That spot could have gone to Cole.




Unless we go back to using foreigners, which would be fine by me.
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Yeah I don't get this whole idea of taking youngsters to a major tournament to 'blood them in' for the next major tournament which seems to be the case with Shaw. No point taking a player if you don't trust him enough to play him in the big games

I don't really care about having a foreign coach or not as long as England win. Only having English managers is an excellent policy so long as it doesn't come at the cost of winning which it is currently
 
IanC said:
No thanks. I am a Spurs fan and he is just in it for his ego. He would not be any better than Roy. His favoured tactic is 4-4-2 and has no plan B.

As for Hoddle he has been out the game of managing too long. He might have all the talk but thats it.

Maybe for once this countries fans should stop pointing the finger at the manager and look at the players and how they underperform when they put on a England shirt. They have no pride yet players for Brazil, Germany and the like are always passionate about the national team. Lets look further than just blaming the manager.
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Yeh it's not a best case scenario.... I'm just saying out of the two I'd of picked Redknapp.

My ideal choice would be Brendan Rodgers or Roberto Martinez.... cos we need some forward-thinking ideas.... but it wouldn't happen.
 
IanC said:
No thanks. I am a Spurs fan and he is just in it for his ego. He would not be any better than Roy. His favoured tactic is 4-4-2 and has no plan B.

As for Hoddle he has been out the game of managing too long. He might have all the talk but thats it.

Maybe for once this countries fans should stop pointing the finger at the manager and look at the players and how they underperform when they put on a England shirt. They have no pride yet players for Brazil, Germany and the like are always passionate about the national team. Lets look further than just blaming the manager.
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To be honest, I think this whole 'no passion' argument is getting old. I challenge you to tell me with a straight face that the likes of Rooney, Gerrard and Lampard don't feel pride when they pull on an England shirt
 
LFCMarshall said:
Gerrard was partly to blame, I'm not doubting that but it is **** poor defending

And the majority of the pundits seem to agree entirely. Sunday League defending has cost us this World Cup
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Supposedly... Roy's strong point.... organisation and setting up teams to be hard to beat.....
 
zzeezzy said:
Yeh it's not a best case scenario.... I'm just saying out of the two I'd of picked Redknapp.

My ideal choice would be Brendan Rodgers or Roberto Martinez.... cos we need some forward-thinking ideas.... but it wouldn't happen.
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Please don't make me dream ... Rodgers would make the perfect England boss atm
 
Subtle said:
Suarez was offside if anyone but an England player flicked it on to him. The defence probably didn't expect Gerrard to play the ball to his feet and can you blame them?
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The defence didn't expect it, Suarez did and the defence didn't track their man.

Poor play all around, but the defence cost us.
 
LFCMarshall said:
The defence didn't expect it, Suarez did and the defence didn't track their man.

Poor play all around, but the defence cost us.
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Not sure what you are on about. Generally defenders don't expect their holding midfielders to play a back pass' right into the danger zone
 
Alcaraz said:
To be honest, I think this whole 'no passion' argument is getting old. I challenge you to tell me with a straight face that the likes of Rooney, Gerrard and Lampard don't feel pride when they pull on an England shirt
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Maybe the reason it's getting old is because it is ****** true. Thats why it keeps being said. They might have pride putting on the shirt but they dont play like they have any pride. Heck none cant even bang out the national anthem like the other countries do. Look past blaming the manager as I said and it becomes a whole lot clearer.
 
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