4-2-2-2 "Il Devasto"

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kenio said:
cragswfc

What change frequently during a match when you lose?
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just take of the players who are performing bad n last 20 mins put run from deep often on both fb's and sometimes on center mids, but its very rare i do it, only if i'm 3-0
 
Blastfirez said:
I just trash Barcelona at Camp Nou
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link to tactics please

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cragswfc said:
Season 2016/17

retained the league title un like last time :)



link to your tactics please







http://www.fm-base.co.uk/forum/atta...vasto-corinthians-v-sheff-wed-split-view-.png

a good season but really disappointing especially in the fa cup were i reached the final in the last 5. this season just was'nt meant to be :(

http://www.fm-base.co.uk/forum/foot...60554-4-2-2-2-il-devasto-130.html#post1201033
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Hi guys,

I have a simple question.

I am managing West Ham and have been reading this thread and its incredibly hard to follow!

But to clairfy, what are the best Il Devasto tactics for 11.3? I am aware certain types of this tactic work differently for different teams. So if somoene could highlight which are the most effective in 11.3 I would be very happy. If someone could give me a link too, it would be great.


Thanks!
 
what he has changed the mentality of cm? sorry for my bad english
Jimmy_x_ said:
crags is the original devasto with the defensive line tweaked so that it is 10 notches in from the beginning. Alexx version is a tweak of the 11.3 devasto, where he was changed the mentality of the defence and one or two changes to the cm's settings.
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Gets a bit boring as a tactic after a while don't you think? Players never do anything special...
 
Dazron said:
Gets a bit boring as a tactic after a while don't you think? Players never do anything special...
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When I tested it I found altering the passing style of the back four to short and have a CM and a DM anchorman asymmetric helped alot in terms of balance. I gave the CM the license of an APS with a decent amount of creative freedom, then tweaked the STL role to slightly more Complete Forward supportish and ensured my wingers/poacher were capable of running into channels and beating the offside trap and my CM would run from deep sometimes but kept the general crossing setup the same. Tweaked the corner/throw in setup to keep the ball more and I'm running away with League Two, played 23 won 20 drew 3 averaging 5 CCC's a game and converting at around half and have scored in all comps so far 85 goals and conceded 15 so it's not going too badly and I knocked Birmingham and Blackburn out of the LC. Testing this so far is going...Well I would say, it's not plug and play but the foundations for individual tactics are definitely there if you take some time.

Going to make that 10 notch adjustment later to see if it has an effect, I recommend tempo change to centre right in opposed to centre left towards slow and decrease time wasting by 2 notches from the Il Devasto download.
 
Jimmer said:
When I tested it I found altering the passing style of the back four to short and have a CM and a DM anchorman asymmetric helped alot in terms of balance. I gave the CM the license of an APS with a decent amount of creative freedom, then tweaked the STL role to slightly more Complete Forward supportish and ensured my wingers/poacher were capable of running into channels and beating the offside trap and my CM would run from deep sometimes but kept the general crossing setup the same. Tweaked the corner/throw in setup to keep the ball more and I'm running away with League Two, played 23 won 20 drew 3 averaging 5 CCC's a game and converting at around half and have scored in all comps so far 85 goals and conceded 15 so it's not going too badly and I knocked Birmingham and Blackburn out of the LC. Testing this so far is going...Well I would say, it's not plug and play but the foundations for individual tactics are definitely there if you take some time.

Going to make that 10 notch adjustment later to see if it has an effect, I recommend tempo change to centre right in opposed to centre left towards slow and decrease time wasting by 2 notches from the Il Devasto download.
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You can show your tactics?
 
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I've got my own versions I made and continue to tweak, but compared to say something like the 433 spain tactic, the flair play just never really comes about (although that kind of play isn't at all consistent).

I continue to try to perfect my perfect tactic that is roughly Il Devasto in shape (i've always played that formation anyway, in all my years of FML play I basically only played 424, and sometimes 433 - but that always felt like cheating!)
 
hey guys just finished 2nd with West Brom in my first season. just accepted a job at real madrid lol. thanks to cragswfc, satorox and thebetterhalf. i have uploaded the tactic as well. it has the following bits and pieces:
1. cragswfc's 10 notches defensive line tactic
2. corner tweak
3. thebetterhalf's false 9 settings for left striker

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it is very important that you get as good players as possible for goalkeeper, centre backs and strikers. sell slow centre backs (pace/acc less than 12) should be sold right away

OI - assistant manager. once at the start of the match and whenever AI makes subs. i have terry mcdermott as my assistant (17 in judging CA/PA, motivation, tactical knowledge). he is huddersfield assistant manager in the game. get him if you're a small team

match prep - always team blend selected. very high all the time. if you get too many injuries or players complain about training workload, then reduce to high.

training - cragswfc's training.
cragswfc training.tsh

pitch - maximum

team talks, a little different from crags:
Before match:

I individually say that "Expect performance" to each player. yes, even if you are underdogs. If the option "you expect him to pick up where he left off last time" is available I choose that instead.


Half time:

Half time teamtalks I choose individually for each player.

6.4 or below - "Disappointed"
6.5 - 7.3 - If you are winning "dont let your performance drop/dont get too complacent", if your drawing/losing "have faith"
7.4 - 7.7 - "Pleased"
7.8 and above "Delighted"


End of match:

6.5 or below - "Disappointed"
6.6 - 7.7 - "Pleased"
7.8 and above - "Delighted"

all screenshots here
http://profile.imageshack.us/user/dpakrr/

tactic for 11.3 patch:
devasto tbh sp 10.tac
 
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I decided to tweak the version uploaded by D-Pak,(tactic for 11.3 patch:
devasto tbh sp 10.tac ) into a 4411 using counter attacks.

This version is now looking almost exactly like the one I used in FM09 ( apart from the wide play option that did not exist then). In short I:::turned it into a 4411, playing on the counter::::: changed some of the mentalities::::changed some of the runs from deep. So far, the results have been really good. Not better than the normal devasto using 10 notches but just as good. Might be a good option for those wanting to play with MR/L and a AMC. Mind you, this version will not use the Winger/FC exploit and is much more cautious. If playing with a top team and getting results, dont try this one


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D - Pak said:
sweet. will give it a go. cheers!
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Obviously, this is NOT a version for a top team, not at all but more a version for underdogs. If playing with Real, United etc, then this version will probably see you underachieve.
 
Hello, first i would like to say that this tactic is awesome and i am getting great results with it ( using 11.3 from satorox with minor defensive changes).

But i encountered problem with game engine limitations. I am playing Liverpool and in third sason (started using tactic at the half of second season) in first 19 league games i had 18 wins and one draw with goal scored/conceded 94/18. But then game decides i score too much goals and some 20 matches in a row my strikers (aguero,suarez babacar) barely ever score, almost every game opponents have penalty and my team cant score more then two goals a game( i start losing against top teams despite being better). I still won the league because 15 points advantage i had at january( and corner exploit which seems unaffected so my CB score more than strikers).
You might think this is just childlish whine(i have 10+ seasons played with different teams and this issue has never been so serious) but if you see the team i am using you can guess how many chances my strikers ( my midfield is amazing...) have and how impossible are situations they miss:
reina- coentrao,hummels ,papadhopoulos, g. johnson - lucas,gerrard - hazard,pastore - aguero,suarez.

Real problem is that this goal drought enforced by game engine starts at the end of season when all important matches are and as a consequence i cant win champions cup for instance although i regularly outplay opponents like atletico madrid(semi final) and tottenham(final) who knock me out.

I just wanted to say that this tactic is a victim of 11.3 patch and that it fails at crucial moments.
 
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Il devasto has finally stopped working for my palace team... time to move on :(
 
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