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THIS TACTIC IS BETTER ----> DEMOLISHER !

























AGGRESSOR


BALANCED VERSION

I suggest that you start all matches with this version.

DOWNLOAD THE TACTIC---> TFF AGGRESSOR ( BALANCED VERSION ) V1


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ATTACKING VERSION

When you are losing by 2 goals or more or you just desperately need a goal at any cost then I suggest changing to this tactic.

Please notice that this version is more attacking than the Balanced version and it has a stronger attack but a weaker defense.


DOWNLOAD THE TACTIC---> TFF AGGRESSOR ( ATTACKING VERSION ) V1


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DEFENSIVE VERSION

This version is outdated and I don't recommend using it.

DOWNLOAD THE TACTIC---> TFF AGGRESSOR ( DEFENSIVE VERSION ) V1


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WASTE TIME TACTIC

Use this tactic when you need to protect your lead and "kill" the game. Please notice that this tactic doesn't give 100% guaranty that you don't concede it only greatly reduces the probability of it so if you start using this tactic too early, for example, when you've got a shaky lead by 1 goal then it might backfire and you might concede a fluke goal at the last minute and give away a win so you should use this tactic it wisely.

DOWNLOAD THE TACTIC ---> TFF AGGRESSOR ( WASTE TIME ) V1

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IMPORTANT INFORMATION:

Please notice that AMC/MCL/MCR positions have many scoring chances in matches so "Finishing" is a very useful attribute for them and if they have low "Finishing" attribute then they will be wasting many scoring chances every match and your will be worse than it could be if you had players with good "Finishing" attribute at these positions.


-- STCR/STCL positions should not have these PPMs : "Likes To Try To Beat Offside Trap", "Gets Forward Whenever Possible"

-- AMC position should not have this PPMs : "Comes Deep To Get Ball"

-- MC(the middle MC in the defensive version) position should not have this PPMs : "Comes Deep To Get Ball"

-- DCR Right Foot - Very Strong

-- DCL Left Foot – Very Strong/Strong/Fairly Strong

-- MCR position : Right Foot - Very Strong/Strong

-- MCL position : Left Foot - Resonable/Fairly Strong/Strong/Very Strong

-- WBR Right Foot - Very Strong

-- WBL Left Foot – Very Strong/Strong/Fairly Strong/Reasonable




-- AMC/MC(the def. version)/MCL/MCR positions should take the corners



-- if you got a player sent off then remove AMC



-- WBL/WBR positions are a very important positions in the tactic, they contribute greatly to the attack and the defense so due that they get tired greatly during matches, I strongly suggest using 2 substitutions(around 68-70 minutes) for these positions in order to always have fresh players at these positions. Also, it's important to have fresh players at these position because when the "Conditions" of players at these positions drop to "67%" or less during matches then these players stop running at all and stop go back to the defense after attacks so your defense starts greatly suffer.





YELLOW AND RED CARDS

Guys, I see that in FM17 players get a huge amount of yellow cards it's even more than it was in FM16 so be very careful with that because all positions in the tactic have "Tackle Harder" PI and if you see that some of your players is booked during the match then go to his instruction and add "Easy Off Tackles" PI instead of "Tackle Harder" PI otherwise you are at great risk to get a man sent off.









OPPOSITION INSTRUCTIONS:

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TRANING AND MATCH PREPARATION:

1)Put the tactic into all 3 tactic slots because it makes the tactic familiarity grows much faster.


2) During the pre-season set MATCH PREPARATION(Main Focus) - "Match Tactics" set the training as it's shown at the screenshot below.

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3) During the pre-season play no less than 6-7 friendly matches, I recommend arranging friendly matches vs much weaker opponents in order to get guaranty easy wins and have "Superb" morale for the begging of the season.


4) When the tactic familiarity reaches about 90% then change MATCH PREPARATION(Main Focus) to "Att. Movement" and set the training as it's shown at the screenshot below.


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Individual Training Focus:

STCR/STCL : Individual Training Focus = "Deep Lying Forward"

AMC : Individual Training Focus = "Trequartista"; Additional Focus might be Finishing if this attribute is less than "14"

MCL/MCR : Individual Training Focus = "Deep Lying Playmaker"; Additional Focus might be Finishing if this attribute is less than "13"

MC (Defensive Version) : Individual Training Focus = "Advanced Playmaker"; Additional Focus might be Finishing if this attribute is less than "14"

MC (Attacking Version): Individual Training Focus = "Ball Winning Midfielder"; Additional Focus might be Technique // First Touch // Passing // Composure // Jumping Reach if these attributes are low

DM : Individual Training Focus = "Defensive Midfielder"; Additional Focus might be Technique if this attribute is low

CDL/CDR : Individual Training Focus = "Central Defender"; or if these attributes are low: Technique, First Touch, Passing then use "Ball Playing Defender" Training Focus

WBL/WBR : Individual Training Focus = "Complete Wing Back";

GK : Individual Training Focus = "Goalkeeper"













PREFERED MOVES:

GOOD AND BAD PPMs FOR THE POSITIONS:
(Please notice that some PPMs are good for one position and bad for other position so if you are planning to use some players on few positions then don't train them the PPMs which can be "Bad")


DEEP LYING FORWARDS
GOOD - "Plays One-Twos", "Moves Into Channels"
BAD - "Static Target Man", "Gets Forward Whenever Possible", "Likes To Try To Beat Offside Trap", "Runs With Ball Rarely"



ATTACKING MIDFIELDER (ATTACK) // CENTRAL MIDFIELDER (ATTACK)
GOOD - "Plays One-Twos", "Gets Forward Whenever Possible"
BAD - "Comes Deep To Get Ball", "Stays Back At All Times", "Plays No Through Balls", "Runs With Ball Rarely"



CENTRAL MIDFIELDERS ( SUPPORT )
GOOD - "Plays One-Twos", "Gets Forward Whenever Possible"
BAD - "Comes Deep To Get Ball", "Stays Back At All Times", "Plays No Through Balls", "Runs With Ball Rarely"









FILTERS

DOWNLOAD FILTERS -->TFF FILTERS AGGRESSOR V2


First of all, if you are going to use the filters then you should turn OFF the "Attributes Masking" setting when you start a new save otherwise the filters will be useless.

Also, you need to understand that when starting a new save the more nations you load and the larger database you set, the more players appear in the filters.

Here's a screenshot with an information how you can turn it OFF when you start a new:
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In the game, the more scouting knowledge you have, the more players appear in the filters. I recommend having 100% scouting knowledge for these major football nations: Spain, Portugal, England, Italy, Germany, France, Holland, Brazil, Greece, Russia, Ukraine, Turkey.

In order to have 100% scouting knowledge of these nations you can buy scout that have nationality of these nations because it gives 100% scouting knowledge that doesn't decline overtime or you can send your scouts to scout these nations.

Your scouting knowledge should look like this:

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Please notice that the default settings of the filters are very tough and it's supposed to show the best 10-15 players in the world for the positions in the tactic and only the top clubs from the major European football nation can afford such players and it's obvious if you manage a small club then you can't afford to have such player and you need to "easy" the matching condition one by one until you find someone that you can afford to buy. It might look like this:

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You need to be very careful when you "easy the matching conditions" because some important attributes might be missed by much and you always should know what attributes are missed and by what amount.


Also, it's very important to understand that if you bought a player using the filters then it doesn't mean that now you have the best possible player for the position and you shouldn't look for any better player for this position, the filters might show very different quality players and some players might be much better than other player even the filters show them all, the filters just show players that have their CA(points) allocated in optimal way for the position and that’s all but some players might have much more point to allocate than other players and of course if one player has much more points to spend on the important attributes for the position then he’ll be more efficient than the other player that has much less points to spend on the on the important attributes for the position.











RECOMMENDED ATTRIBUTES FOR THE POSITIONS



DEEP LAYING FORWARDS
Technique 15+
First Touch 15+
Finishing 15+
Passing 13+
Decisions 13+
Composure 13+
Vision 13+
Strength 13+
Dribbling 13+
Off The Ball 13+
Teamwork 13+
Anticipation 13+
Acceleration 13+
Agility 13+
Pace 12+
Work Rate 13+
Long Shots 13+



ATTACKING MIDFIELDER (ATTACK) // CENTRAL MIDFIELDER (ATTACK)
Technique 16+
Passing 15+
First Touch 15+
Vision 15+
Dribbling 14+
Finishing 14+
Decisions 14+
Composure 14+
Anticipation 14+
Flair 14+
Off The Ball 14+
Work Rate 13+
Teamwork 13+
Acceleration 13+
Agility 15+
Pace 12+
Long Shots 13+



CENTRAL MIDFIELDERS (SUPPORT)
Teamwork 14+
Work Rate 14+
Technique 14+
Passing 15+
First Touch 14+
Vision 14+
Decisions 14+
Composure 14+
Anticipation 14+
Off The Ball 13+
Positioning 12+
Acceleration 12+
Agility 11+
Pace 12+
Determination 11+
Finishing 13+
Dribbling 12+
Flair 13+
Tackling 11+
Marking 11+



CENTRAL MIDFIELDER (DEFEND) // DEFENSIVE MIDFIELDER (DEFEND)
Work Rate 15+
Teamwork 14+
Positioning 14+
Marking 13+
Anticipation 13+
Tackling 14+
Technique 12+
First Touch 12+
Passing 13+
Vision 12+
Decisions 12+
Composure 12+
Strength 12+
Aggresion 12+
Bravery 13+
Acceleration 12+
Agility 11+
Pace 12+
Determination 13+


RIGHT/LEFT WING BACK
Acceleration 14+
Agility 13+
Pace 13+
Technique 13+
First Touch 13+
Dribbling 12+
Passing 12+
Work Rate 14+
Teamwork 13+
Decisions 12+
Vision 11+
Tackling 13+
Anticipation 13+
Positioning 13+
Marking 11+
Determination 11+
Off The Ball 12+
Strength 11
Aggresion 11+
Bravery 13+


CENTRAL DEFENDERS
Strength 15+
Acceleration 13+
Pace 12+
Agility 11+
Positioning 15+
Marking 15+
Concentration 14+
Jumping Reach 13+
Tackling 14+
Anticipation 14+
Aggresion 11+
Bravery 13+
Determination 13+
Work Rate 13+
Technique 12+
Passing 11+
Vision 11+
Decisions 12+
Composure 12+


GK
Reflexes 17 +
One on Ones 16 +
Handling 15+
Concentration 14+
Communication 13+
Command Of Area 13+
Agility 14+

 
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Got to hand it to you.. every year you make quality tactics and this year is first time I have looked so am looking forward to trying this as am currently using my own 4-2-3-1 and just cant get lone striker scoring... I have held my own and in a long save but just cant keep momentum going!! Hoping this can get me consistent results and more league titles.. by any chance u don't have a 4-2-3-1 tactic or some tips u can give me?? Keep up the good work pal.
 
can you put individual training focus settings?
 
Got to hand it to you.. every year you make quality tactics and this year is first time I have looked so am looking forward to trying this as am currently using my own 4-2-3-1 and just cant get lone striker scoring... I have held my own and in a long save but just cant keep momentum going!! Hoping this can get me consistent results and more league titles.. by any chance u don't have a 4-2-3-1 tactic or some tips u can give me?? Keep up the good work pal.
try knapps 4231 wheel of fire on si games.com
 
Got to hand it to you.. every year you make quality tactics and this year is first time I have looked so am looking forward to trying this as am currently using my own 4-2-3-1 and just cant get lone striker scoring... I have held my own and in a long save but just cant keep momentum going!! Hoping this can get me consistent results and more league titles.. by any chance u don't have a 4-2-3-1 tactic or some tips u can give me?? Keep up the good work pal.


Mate, my best 4-2-3-1 tactic for FM17 shows about 10 times worse results than Aggressor so I don't find that 4-2-3-1 formation is a reliable formation to go in FM17 and I'd suggested not bothering with it, I find that you can get good results with it and even win some trophies only if you have the best players in the world like Messi, Neymar, Suarez, Pogba or if you play in some low reputable league when any tactic could work but if you play in the most competitive league in the game like English Premier League or Spanish La Liga and your players are not the best players in the world then with 4-2-3-1 formation your results will be very inconsistent and frustrating in FM17.

But, of course, all above is just my opinion. ;)
 
thats good.. cant wait to use and try this new tactic. currently used beast v4 wit dortmund. will give a go after i finished the current season.
 
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Guys, I've added a defensive version of the tactic to the OP

A bit later I'll add a guide with some suggestions about when to use each version
 
Tried it in my Europa League game vs Fiorentina, 1st season, and I dominated the match entirely.
Started off twith the attacking version, after 50 mins to the defensive one and after the 75th min to the time wasting version :)

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*****

Guys, I've added a defensive version of the tactic to the OP

A bit later I'll add a guide with some suggestions about when to use each version

Would You use home/away the same way as reaver tactics?
Keep up the great work;)
 
good one. I like knap wheels of fire tactics. i will try aggressor ;)
 
I played few games with aggressor - leak defensive, strikers can't score... for my opinion beast v4 is better tac
 
Why do you suggest to train MC as advanced playmaker but he's MC - defend? is this correct.
 
i think defensive version is more stable than attacking version.
 
I have this problem with both Beast and Aggressor, when I play a very weak opponent at home, I dominate but almost all matches tend to end in 0-0.

Anyone else experiencing this ?
 
TFF

As a alternative to waste time tactic could we use beast v4?
 
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