AI score more chances?

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WJ said:
Just noticed something else. Is there any particular reason you're using Fluid? You'd be far better off using rigid or very rigid.
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I would of thought with 2 CAMs it would be better to have fluid but I really don't know to be honest pal.
 
The thing is, Fluid allows your players to have a lot of Creative Freedom. That's not necessary. You have 3 playmakers who, due to their role, will have a lot of creative freedom already. You're basically diluting their roles by giving the others Creative Freedom too. Going more rigid, will give your specialist roles more chance to flourish. It's not a major issue, but something that might help.
 
WJ said:
The thing is, Fluid allows your players to have a lot of Creative Freedom. That's not necessary. You have 3 playmakers who, due to their role, will have a lot of creative freedom already. You're basically diluting their roles by giving the others Creative Freedom too. Going more rigid, will give your specialist roles more chance to flourish. It's not a major issue, but something that might help.
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Oh ah makes sense, I will change it to rigid later on :D Thanks again pal
 
I'm going to post all the games I have like the ones above that go for me and against me. So far I haven't had a single game where I've had significantly less CCC and won/drawn. This isn't a post your frustration thread so don't lock it. I just want to see how often it happens for and against me.

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Thank god I won! Also I will post games like this. Never in my 5 years of playing FM have I had 0 CCC and scored 2 goals.
 
CCCs aren't the only source of goals. It's an important point that people seem to miss. Your stats, for instance, don't even show half chances which is almost as crucial.
 
WJ said:
CCCs aren't the only source of goals. It's an important point that people seem to miss. Your stats, for instance, don't even show half chances which is almost as crucial.
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Oh ah, I will put half chances on aswell.
 
I take it from the Post your successes thread that you're doing a lot better now?
 
WJ said:
I take it from the Post your successes thread that you're doing a lot better now?
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Doing alot better now yeah :D cheers. Still get the odd game like the ones I've posted before. Still seems strange how I Havent had a single game where I've had say 1 CCC and the opponent has had 6 CCC and I've won 1-0 for example which is what happens to the AI all the time.

P.S I'm drunk so if ti makes no sense then i'm sorry
 
Jean-Luc said:
Doing alot better now yeah :D cheers. Still get the odd game like the ones I've posted before. Still seems strange how I Havent had a single game where I've had say 1 CCC and the opponent has had 6 CCC and I've won 1-0 for example which is what happens to the AI all the time.

P.S I'm drunk so if ti makes no sense then i'm sorry
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could you upload your tatics that your using please!
 
Jean-Luc said:
Doing alot better now yeah :D cheers. Still get the odd game like the ones I've posted before. Still seems strange how I Havent had a single game where I've had say 1 CCC and the opponent has had 6 CCC and I've won 1-0 for example which is what happens to the AI all the time.

P.S I'm drunk so if ti makes no sense then i'm sorry
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That's fine, I deal with people that make no sense all the time. ;)

Your post is fine though. You're doing better because your tactic is better balanced now. Not every game will go according to plan though. Your tactic may be fine, but your strikers will have off days or just be out of form. The consistency of your players plays a part. So does morale, motivation, pressure and focus. It's good to have a plan B for those days, but it shouldn't happen too often anyway.

The tactic isn't perfect, but it's has much better balance to it compared to how it started out. The AI often do better than us in that department, because they're not scared of being defensive and soaking up pressure before counter-attacking. Most of us playing FM want to dominate games and most of the time we are the dominant team. Generally speaking, the counter-attacking team has opportunities to create better CCCs than the dominant team, from which they're able to score. It's obvious when you think about it. On the counter there won't be many defenders back, so with good movement you can create good scoring chances. You'd have to work harder to break down a defensive team.

Unless you're the weaker team, playing with defensive tactics, you're not going to get situations where you create 1 CCC and win 1-0 when they've created 6 CCCs. I've been there and I would much rather be the team creating 6 CCCs and winning than the little team hoping for that one golden chance to win. :D
 
WJ said:
That's fine, I deal with people that make no sense all the time. ;)

Your post is fine though. You're doing better because your tactic is better balanced now. Not every game will go according to plan though. Your tactic may be fine, but your strikers will have off days or just be out of form. The consistency of your players plays a part. So does morale, motivation, pressure and focus. It's good to have a plan B for those days, but it shouldn't happen too often anyway.

The tactic isn't perfect, but it's has much better balance to it compared to how it started out. The AI often do better than us in that department, because they're not scared of being defensive and soaking up pressure before counter-attacking. Most of us playing FM want to dominate games and most of the time we are the dominant team. Generally speaking, the counter-attacking team has opportunities to create better CCCs than the dominant team, from which they're able to score. It's obvious when you think about it. On the counter there won't be many defenders back, so with good movement you can create good scoring chances. You'd have to work harder to break down a defensive team.

Unless you're the weaker team, playing with defensive tactics, you're not going to get situations where you create 1 CCC and win 1-0 when they've created 6 CCCs. I've been there and I would much rather be the team creating 6 CCCs and winning than the little team hoping for that one golden chance to win. :D
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Makes sense, I've been the little team hoping for that one golden chance and it just never happens as often as it does for the AI . I used to think it was all in my head but since I've been taking screenshots of the BS games that go for and against me I've noticed it more and more.

Also I knew Alejandro would come good :D! He's had alot of injury problems unfortunately but he still bangs them in left, right and centre.

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Somewhat important as well, is when are you scoring your goals compared to them?
 
WJ said:
Somewhat important as well, is when are you scoring your goals compared to them?
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I score most of my goals in the first 15 minutes.

I concede most of my goals in the 46-60 minute.
 
Jean-Luc said:
I score most of my goals in the first 15 minutes.

I concede most of my goals in the 46-60 minute.
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Seems like you take the lead then and the AI tries to get back into the game immediately after half-time. Are you changing anything tactically to combat this?
 
WJ said:
Seems like you take the lead then and the AI tries to get back into the game immediately after half-time. Are you changing anything tactically to combat this?
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Sometimes I'll change to control and change my DLP (s) to (d).
 
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