Arsenal vs Shakhtar Donetsk - 19/10/2010 @ 7.45

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Arsenal v Shakhtar Donetsk


  • Champions League - Group H
  • Venue: Emirates Stadium Date: Tuesday, 19 October Kick-off: 1945 BST
  • Coverage: BBC Sport website, BBC Radio 5 live and live on Sky Sports 2

Arsenal captain Cesc Fabregas has returned to training ahead of Tuesday's Champions League game against Shakhtar Donetsk at the Emirates Stadium.

The Spanish midfielder has not played since injuring his hamstring in the 1-1 draw at Sunderland on 18 September.

The 23-year-old is joined in the squad by strikers Nicklas Bendtner and Theo Walcott, who are also both now fit.

However, defenders Laurent Koscielny (back), Bacary Sagna (thigh), Thomas Vermaelen (Achilles) are all out.

The Gunners are also without midfielder Aaron Ramsey (leg) and forward Robin van Persie (ankle) but England youngster Jack Wilshere is available as his red card in Saturday's Premier League win over Birmingham does not affect European fixtures.

Arsenal could come up against former striker Eduardo da Silva, who left the club three months ago after three years in London.

Shakhtar's only injury problem is over Brazilian playmaker Fernandinho, who is out with a long-term injury. Ukraine defenders Dmytro Chygrynskiy and Yaroslav Rakytskiy returned for Friday's game against Metalurh Donetsk, while attacking midfielder Douglas Costa should return from injury.

Arsenal manager Arsene Wenger will be looking for his third win from three matches, with his side topping the group table.

And he says he has not yet decided whether to gamble on Fabregas on Tuesday night.
"Cesc has prepared well. He had a little setback, but got over the hurdle and is ready to play at full fitness, but whether I start him or not, I do not know yet," said Wenger.

"It will be whether I take a gamble or not, because he has been out for a long time. But physically he is ready and fit - and wanting to play."

Wenger added: "You know his influence on our team, he is our leader, our passer, he has a good level of assists and a good goalscoring record. Ideally you want him in the team." (Arsenal.com)

Arsenal (from): Fabianski, Clichy, Squillaci, Djourou, Eboue, Nasri, Song, Diaby, Wilshere, Arshavin, Chamakh, Szczesny, Fabregas, Rosicky, Bendtner, Walcott, Denilson, Vela, Gibbs.


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I think we can beat Shakhtar fairly comfortably, individually, they have some terrific players, not least Eduardo
who will, I imagine be hungry to show Arsenal they made a mistake and grab a goal if possible. We beat a strong Braga team 6-0 (which was harsh, but showed just how good we can be when we want to be) - I can't see a scoreline anything like that, but I don't think they'll score, so i'll go for 3-0 (or 3-1). It is going to be a much more difficult match in Ukraine.
 
Routine 3-1 Arsenal win for me. Though their team is underrated IMO, they play some great stuff.
 
At the Emirates i think Arsenal will win 2-0 and i think Shakhtar will the by the same scoreline in the return fixture.
 
2-1 win for Arsenal
I can see eduardo scoring
 
2-0 Arsenal win, Eboue and Squillaci with the goals (H)
 
3-1 arsenal, or if maybe 4-1. Won't be clean sheet, and I think we'll go 2-0 up, then they'll scrape one back and it will be all panicy for a while until chamakh wins us another penalty ( :) ) and then we'll be alright. I think will be a draw though when we go to them in ukraine, shatkar are a pretty decent team, and shouldn't be taken lightly....they drubbed Braga as well I believe. Wenger shouldn't risk fabregas though- we'll need him against city, especially with wilshire suspended.
 
3-1 arsenal, or if maybe 4-1. Won't be clean sheet, and I think we'll go 2-0 up, then they'll scrape one back and it will be all panicy for a while until chamakh wins us another penalty ( :) ) and then we'll be alright. I think will be a draw though when we go to them in ukraine, shatkar are a pretty decent team, and shouldn't be taken lightly....they drubbed Braga as well I believe. Wenger shouldn't risk fabregas though- we'll need him against city, especially with wilshire suspended.

Shakhtar 3-0 Braga highlights

Wenger said Cesc is fully fit, but may not start:
http://www.arsenal.com/news/news-archive/wenger-cesc-is-fully-fit-but-may-not-start
 
4-2 to Arsenal.
Chamakh, Fabregas, Arshavin and Vela with the goals for us. Eduardo will bag himself a goal though.
 
So many people think Eduardo'll bag a goal. Am I the only person to not think that?
 
Doubt Eduardo will score. It's at the Emirates, so he'll probably get brought off when they are like 2-0 down with a little while to go for an ovation. Or he won't start and will come on late.
 
BUMP

By Richard Clarke

“He arrived here and became a star very quickly. But when you are out for nine months at this level, and even after you are back you struggle and need another surgery, then you have a **** of a problem.

“Credit to him, he never put out any sign of giving up. But it was just too big a hurdle for him because when you are out for such a long time someone else can always come in.”

That is Arsène Wenger’s two-paragraph epitaph on the Arsenal career of Eduardo.

The striker had first caught the manager’s eye by scoring for Dinamo Zagreb in a Champions League qualifier at Emirates Stadium in 2006 – the first European goal at Arsenal’s ‘new’ home.

So it is richly ironic that he returns for the first time since his move to Shakhtar Donetsk in the same competition on Tuesday evening.

His three-year spell in North London ended in the summer but was defined back in February 2008 at Birmingham when he suffered an horrific broken leg and dislocated ankle.

“It was a bad day,” mused Wenger at Monday’s press conference. “A very bad day.

“He was injured and we dropped points in the last seconds of a game after a penalty that was difficult to take.

“He didn't lose his ability,” the manager went on, “He lost his confidence. You never know exactly about the psychological damage to a player [after an injury like that] because there is no physical damage.

“But most of the time when they get into exactly the position they got injured, they have a resistance. It is unbelievable. They play normally until they get into that position and then have a reluctance.

“His case is difficult to measure. Was it the time he was out? Or was it that some players moved in front of him?

“You waste your time when you miss a year at the top level.

“But don't forget that, after the injury, I extended his contract. He had shown signs he was coming back to his normal level but, after that, he had little muscular problems, was in and out then decided to go.

“There was no interest from clubs in England. But Shakhtar wanted him last year when I extended his contract.”

Eduardo has returned to England at a time when dangerous tackling is under the media microscope once more. The Croatian’s career-changing experience is one of a number of incidents that has fuelled Wenger’s anger on the matter over the past few years.

The Frenchman is the flag-bearer for the cause. The fact that the latest example - Jack Wilshere’s challenge on Nikola Zigic on Saturday – came from an Arsenal player is unimportant to him. Both manager and the midfielder expressed regret and disappointment afterwards.

We can only hope the challenges received by Wilshere throughout the rest of his career garner the same amount of attention.

Tuesday’s game will be the last action the 18-year-old will see for a fortnight. The temptation must be to play him however, on the eve of the game, Wenger was unsure.

“Maybe he’ll start yes,” he said. “I don't know yet. I have not picked the team yet but I don't rule it out.

“I think he has got over Saturday already. He has a good rest after tomorrow. The good thing is that he will be out for three games but only one week because we play in midweek against Newcastle in the Carling Cup. That will give him a good breather.”

You could argue that Wilshere’s impending suspension might have helped put Cesc Fabregas on the bench against Shakhtar. Why rush the skipper back after hamstring trouble when his soon-to-be-suspended counterpart is in such fine form? The Spaniard needs a run of some sort before the trip to Manchester City on Saturday but his apprentice has been more than holding the fort.

Thomas Vermaelen (Achilles), Robin van Persie (ankle), Laurent Koscielny (back) and Manuel Almunia (elbow) are still out. However the last of those is very close to a return.

“He is at 90, 95 per cent,” said Wenger. “He has had training sessions but he still has a bandage on his elbow and when he extends his arm he has to stop. It is not easy.”

If Group H has been a stroll for Arsenal so far then Shakhtar have matched them stride for stride.

The teams are tied at the top of the table with six points from two games. If there is a victor on Tuesday then that team can pretty much coast into the Knockout Stages from there.

That would be as far as Shakhtar have ever gone in this competition and they seem an altogether stronger side than the one beaten 3-2 at Highbury a decade ago thanks to two goals from Martin Keown in the last five minutes.

They won the Ukrainian League last year by losing just one game. This term, they have won 15 of 17 matches and arrive at Emirates Stadium on a run of seven straight wins.

Over the summer they added quality in key positions from top European clubs. Eduardo arrived up front and centre Dmtryo Chygrynskiy was re-signed from Barcelona. Douglas Costa is one of seven Brazilian in the squad of Mircea Licescu and has been compared with Ronaldinho. Meanwhile Darijo Srna comes with a mighty reputation from free-kicks.

“It is a key game because it gives us an opportunity to basically think we have qualified,” said Wenger.

“In this group you have had 12 points at stake - six went to Shakhtar, six went to Arsenal. That means what is at stake now is qualification and also being the top of the group.

“They are on a good winning run. They are dominating their league and have just won 3-0 at Braga. We are on our toes. We know that only a great performance will win us the game.”

To be honest, qualification is not at stake on Tuesday. Surely Arsenal will still reach the Knockout Stages even if they lose to Shakhtar. However this game could well decide top spot in Group H and, in theory, the chance of an easier draw in the last 16 next February.

While Arsenal needed a win at all costs on Saturday frankly Tuesday is not so desperate. However dropping points in this game could store up problems later down the line.

GROUP H

By Me,

Arsenal are currently top of what many expected would be an "easy" group after two wins from two. The first, a 6-0 hammering against Braga was far more comfortable than many expected - the Portuguese side had knocked both Celtic and Sevilla out of the competition before the group stages. The second game, away in Serbia against Partizan Belgrade was, in the end a comfortable 3-1 victory, but after a sticky start, Arsenal were pegged back from the penalty spot after Arshavin had given Wenger's side the lead. Denilson, was adjudged to have handled in the area, and Cleo converted his first of two spot kicks. The second was brilliantly saved by Lukasz Fabianski, after Chamakh, and then Squillaci regained and doubled the away sie's lead.

Shakhtar have also beaten Braga and Partizan, 3-0 and 1-0 respectively.
 
Arsenal 2-1 Shakhtar. Eduardo to dive and get a penalty. It wouldn't be the first time at the Emirates.
 
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