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THIS TACTIC IS BETTER ----> DEMOLISHER !































AVENGER

Please notice that this tactic is quite attacking so when in matches you get lead by 1 goal or 2 goals or 3 goals or any amount of goals that you consider as "enough for you" then I suggest changing this tactic to a waste time tactic that can be downloaded below.

DOWNLOAD THE TACTIC---> TFF AVENGER V3


Avanger_Attacking_Formation.png


Avenger_TIs.png










DEFENSIVE VERSION

Guys, this version show excellent results that are similar to the original tactic but this version is much more defensive and less attacking then the original tactic.

It would be a good idea to start matches with this tactic against dangerous opponents and if you don't happy this result after the 1st half then you always can change this tactic to original V3 that is more attacking.


DOWNLOAD THE TACTIC---> TFF AVENGER ( DEFENSIVE ) V1

Avenger_Defensive_Formation.png












WASTE TIME TACTIC


Use this tactic when you need to protect your lead and "kill" the game. Please notice that this tactic doesn't give 100% guaranty that you don't concede it only greatly reduces the probability of it so if you start using this tactic too early, for example, when you've got a shaky lead by 1 goal then it might backfire and you might concede a fluke goal at the last minute and give away a win so you should use this tactic it wisely.

DOWNLOAD THE TACTIC ---> TFF AVENGER ( WASTE TIME ) V1

Avanger_Waste_Time.png













IMPORTANT INFORMATION:

-- Please notice that this tactic has its own OIs and it's different from the previous tactics


-- STC positions should not have these PPMs : "Likes To Try To Beat Offside Trap", "Gets Forward Whenever Possible"

-- AMC position should not have this PPMs : "Comes Deep To Get Ball"


-- ML position : Right Foot - Very Strong

-- MR position : Left Foot - Very Strong / Strong / Fairly Strong

-- DCR position : Right Foot - Very Strong

-- DCL position : Left Foot – Very Strong/Strong/Fairly Strong

-- MCR position : Right Foot - Very Strong/Strong

-- MCL position : Left Foot - Resonable/Fairly Strong/Strong/Very Strong

-- DR position : Right Foot - Very Strong

-- DL position : Left Foot – Very Strong




-- ML/MR/AMC/MCL positions should take the corners



-- if you got a player sent off then remove AMC







YELLOW AND RED CARDS

Guys, I see that in FM17 players get a huge amount of yellow cards it's even more than it was in FM16 so be very careful with that because all positions in the tactic have "Tackle Harder" PI and if you see that some of your players is booked during the match then go to his instruction and add "Easy Off Tackles" PI instead of "Tackle Harder" PI otherwise you are at great risk to get a man sent off.






OPPOSITION INSTRUCTIONS:

Avenger_OIs.png












TRANING AND MATCH PREPARATION:

1)Put the tactic into all 3 tactic slots because it makes the tactic familiarity grows much faster.


2) During the pre-season set MATCH PREPARATION(Main Focus) - "Match Tactics" set the training as it's shown at the screenshot below.

Match_Tac_Training.png



3) During the pre-season play no less than 6-7 friendly matches, I recommend arranging friendly matches vs much weaker opponents in order to get guaranty easy wins and have "Superb" morale for the begging of the season.


4) When the tactic familiarity reaches about 90% then change MATCH PREPARATION(Main Focus) to "Att. Movement" and set the training as it's shown at the screenshot below.


Att_Mov_Training.png






Individual Training Focus:

STC : Individual Training Focus = "Deep Lying Forward"

AMC : Individual Training Focus = "Trequartista"

ML/MR : Individual Training Focus = "Winger"; Additional Focus might be Finishing if this attribute is less than "14"

MCL : Individual Training Focus = "Deep Lying Playmaker"

MCR : Individual Training Focus = "Ball Winning Midfielder"; Additional Focus might be Technique // First Touch // Passing // Composure // Jumping Reach if these attributes are low

CDL/CDR : Individual Training Focus = "Central Defender"; or if these attributes are low: Technique, First Touch, Passing then use "Ball Playing Defender" Training Focus

DL/DR : Individual Training Focus = "Complete Wing Back";

GK : Individual Training Focus = "Goalkeeper"













PREFERED MOVES:

GOOD AND BAD PPMs FOR THE POSITIONS:
(Please notice that some PPMs are good for one position and bad for other position so if you are planning to use some players on few positions then don't train them the PPMs which can be "Bad")


DEEP LYING FORWARD
GOOD - "Plays One-Twos", "Comes Deep To Get Ball"
BAD - "Static Target Man", "Gets Forward Whenever Possible", "Likes To Try To Beat Offside Trap", "Runs With Ball Rarely"


ATTACKING MIDFIELDER
GOOD - "Plays One-Twos", "Gets Forward Whenever Possible"
BAD - "Comes Deep To Get Ball", "Stays Back At All Times", "Plays No Through Balls", "Runs With Ball Rarely"











FILTERS

DOWNLOAD FILTERS -->TFF FILTERS AVENGER V3


First of all, if you are going to use the filters then you should turn OFF the "Attributes Masking" setting when you start a new save otherwise the filters will be useless.

Also, you need to understand that when starting a new save the more nations you load and the larger database you set, the more players appear in the filters.

Here's a screenshot with an information how you can turn it OFF when you start a new:
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In the game, the more scouting knowledge you have, the more players appear in the filters. I recommend having 100% scouting knowledge for these major football nations: Spain, Portugal, England, Italy, Germany, France, Holland, Brazil, Greece, Russia, Ukraine, Turkey.

In order to have 100% scouting knowledge of these nations you can buy scout that have nationality of these nations because it gives 100% scouting knowledge that doesn't decline overtime or you can send your scouts to scout these nations.

Your scouting knowledge should look like this:

SC11.jpg




Please notice that the default settings of the filters are very tough and it's supposed to show the best 10-15 players in the world for the positions in the tactic and only the top clubs from the major European football nation can afford such players and it's obvious if you manage a small club then you can't afford to have such player and you need to "easy" the matching condition one by one until you find someone that you can afford to buy. It might look like this:

MC11.jpg



You need to be very careful when you "easy the matching conditions" because some important attributes might be missed by much and you always should know what attributes are missed and by what amount.


Also, it's very important to understand that if you bought a player using the filters then it doesn't mean that now you have the best possible player for the position and you shouldn't look for any better player for this position, the filters might show very different quality players and some players might be much better than other player even the filters show them all, the filters just show players that have their CA(points) allocated in optimal way for the position and that’s all but some players might have much more point to allocate than other players and of course if one player has much more points to spend on the important attributes for the position then he’ll be more efficient than the other player that has much less points to spend on the on the important attributes for the position.














RECOMMENDED ATTRIBUTES FOR THE POSITIONS



DEEP LAYING FORWARD
Technique 15+
First Touch 15+
Finishing 15+
Passing 13+
Decisions 13+
Composure 13+
Vision 13+
Strength 13+
Dribbling 13+
Off The Ball 13+
Teamwork 13+
Anticipation 13+
Acceleration 13+
Agility 13+
Pace 12+
Work Rate 13+
Long Shots 13+



ATTACKING MIDFIELDER
Technique 16+
Passing 15+
First Touch 15+
Vision 15+
Dribbling 14+
Finishing 14+
Decisions 14+
Composure 14+
Anticipation 14+
Flair 14+
Off The Ball 14+
Work Rate 13+
Teamwork 13+
Acceleration 13+
Agility 15+
Pace 12+
Long Shots 13+



LEFT/RIGHT WIDE MIDFIELDER
Technique 16+
Dribbling 16+
First Touch 15+
Acceleration 15+
Agility 15+
Flair 14+
Pace 14+
Finishing 14+
Off The Ball 14+
Anticipation 14+
Passing 13+
Composure 13+
Decisions 13+
Vision 13+
Work Rate 13+
Teamwork 13+
Long Shots 13+



BOX TO BOX (SUPPORT)
Teamwork 14+
Work Rate 14+
Technique 14+
Passing 15+
First Touch 14+
Vision 14+
Decisions 14+
Composure 14+
Anticipation 14+
Off The Ball 13+
Positioning 12+
Acceleration 12+
Agility 11+
Pace 12+
Determination 11+
Dribbling 12+
Flair 13+
Tackling 11+
Marking 11+



ADVANCED PLYMAKER (SUPPORT)
Work Rate 15+
Teamwork 14+
Positioning 13+
Marking 12+
Tackling 13+
Anticipation 13+
Bravery 13+
Technique 13+
First Touch 13+
Passing 14+
Vision 12+
Decisions 12+
Composure 12+
Acceleration 12+
Agility 11+
Pace 12+
Determination 13+
Strength 11+
Aggresion 11+



RIGHT/LEFT FULL BACK
Acceleration 14+
Agility 13+
Pace 13+
Technique 13+
First Touch 13+
Dribbling 12+
Passing 12+
Work Rate 14+
Teamwork 13+
Decisions 12+
Vision 11+
Tackling 13+
Anticipation 13+
Positioning 13+
Marking 11+
Determination 11+
Off The Ball 12+
Strength 11
Aggresion 11+
Bravery 13+



CENTRAL DEFENDERS
Strength 15+
Acceleration 12+
Pace 12+
Agility 11+
Positioning 15+
Marking 15+
Concentration 14+
Jumping Reach 13+
Tackling 14+
Anticipation 14+
Aggresion 11+
Bravery 13+
Determination 13+
Work Rate 14+
Technique 11+
Passing 11+
Vision 11+
Decisions 12+
Composure 12+



GK
Reflexes 17 +
One on Ones 16 +
Handling 15+
Concentration 14+
Communication 13+
Command Of Area 13+
Agility 14+






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Ohh no, 4-4-1-1. Shall I close the Samurai topic? (H)
 
oops its hard to use it with BEAST, dont have any wingers :)
 
Ohno, i guess this has to be a new save. Need the filter. :D
 
V2 will be AP changed to Box to Box Midfielder, v3 will be with one or two IF's than v4 will be 4141 with DM, v5 will be back to 3 defenders again;)
Anyway Great Job TFF I will test this one later;)
 
Guys, I've added a waste time tactic to the OP.

The main tactic is quite attacking so the waste time tactic is very useful, I use it very often.
 
I got the message: the idea here is to keep changing so the AI never take hold of your tactics.
 
hey tff, mate how would u line up the best 11 for this tactic? thanks mate
 
Looking forward to seeing some results here soon.
 
Hey TFF :)

I noticed that you always use Very Narrow width :) Can you explain why ? :)

Do you think Very Narrow width is always better than Balanced or Fairly Wide width with this formation ?

Sorry for my boring questions , but i always learn something from you :)
 
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This tactic works with an underdog team like Feirense (Portuguese Premier League)? :S
 
And there's only one thing left to say. Thank you my friend that you share your work with us!
 
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