Champions League Draw

as an arsenal fan very happy with the draw about time we had some luck!
liverpool n chelski could struggly to win there groups but both will go through man u group is quite easy but going away to russia then a league game straight after could have a knock on effect we will have to see!
 
Arsenal should get top easily...standard liege could cause arsenal some problems they are a good team they nearly knocked out liverpool like last season in qualifers.

Rangers got a really good chance to make it into the knockout stages.
 
alot of very interesting groups, Arsenal got by far the easiest
im expecting Liverpool to sail through tho, Lyon are good but vs us in Europe should be easy enough
 
man utd will have tough away games in turkey and russia... it's a long distance games n it will effect the players' condition.. come' on united!!! show them how devils we are!!!

looking forward to watch ac milan vc real madrid, inter vs barca and bayern munich vs juve....
 
Its always arsenal that get the easy draw feel sorry for FC Zurich
 
Yeh arsenal always see to get the easy teams out of all the top 4
 
GUNNER500 said:
man u always get it easy in cups and c.league n liverpool aways get the refs on there side 9/10 in europe!imo
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To be fair, Man u usually get a hard group and Liverpool 9/10 of 10 get one of the hardest
Also are we watching the same team? Refs seem to hate Liverpool, we never get decisions
 
dc999 said:
Is there a group where you think any team can win
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Group B maybe. Man Utd O.K., but the next spot is up for grabs. CSKA Moscow, Wolfsburg or Besiktas. Should be good. For Arsenal it is a fantastic draw.
 
arsenal always have the easiest groups, year in year out, man united's is easy on paper but a fair bit of travelling to tough away grounds will take it out on them when they come back for prem games. i think real will win it, to many good players, to big a squad
 
fmguy said:
Group B maybe. Man Utd O.K., but the next spot is up for grabs. CSKA Moscow, Wolfsburg or Besiktas. Should be good. For Arsenal it is a fantastic draw.
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Besiktas have no chance. Wolfsburg are the German League Champions and CSKA are a great team too, remember not so long ago Liverpool beat Besiktas 8-0? Imo not a great side lol
 
ohmygawdzz said:
Besiktas have no chance. Wolfsburg are the German League Champions and CSKA are a great team too, remember not so long ago Liverpool beat Besiktas 8-0? Imo not a great side lol
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You are liverpool fan lol you should be like besiktas are ace ect ect and then say we beat them 8-0 :P
 
dc999 said:
You are liverpool fan lol you should be like besiktas are ace ect ect and then say we beat them 8-0 :P
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But that doesn't stop it being true, therefore making his point very valid.

I think Besiktas are really going to struggle in that group.
 
And the other funny thing is they also seem to struggle in easy groups ( Arsenal that is )
 
Irish Scouse said:
Group A:
FC Bayern Munchen
Juventus
FC Giordins de Bordeaux
Maccabi Haifa FC

Group B:
Manchester United
CSKA Moskva
Besiktas JK
VFL Wolfsburg

Group C:
AC Milan
Real Madrid
Olyimque de Marsielle
FC Zurich

Group D:
Chelsea
FC Porto
Club Atletico de Madrid
APOEL FC

Group E:
Liverpool
Olympique Lyonnais
ACF Fiorentina
Debercini (sp?)

Group F:
FC Barcelona
FC Internazionale
FC Dynamo Kyiv
FC Rubin Kazam

Group G:
Sevilla FC
Rangers
VFB Stuttgart
AFC Unirea Urzicieni

Group H:
Arsenal
AZ Alkmaar
Olympiakos
R. Standard de Liege





What do you think about the draw?



LIVERPOOL TO WIN
FINAL
LFC V MAN U 2-1 in ET

European Goalkeeper of the year:
Edwin Van Der Saar
European Defender of the year:
John Terry
European Midfielder of the year:
Xavi Hernandez
European Striker/Forward of the year:
Lionel Messi
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how did he win it again? i know i'm biased but vidic was great.

ohmygawdzz said:
To be fair, Man u usually get a hard group and Liverpool 9/10 of 10 get one of the hardest
Also are we watching the same team? Refs seem to hate Liverpool, we never get decisions
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Real madrid game you got a dodgy penalty.

athletico madrid. vital moment. gerrard runs into some guy and does a belly flop. referee's decision: penalty. inter milan vs liverpool. over the two legs inter milan had 10 men for half of it.
 
19-11-08 said:
how did he win it again? i know i'm biased but vidic was great.



Real madrid game you got a dodgy penalty.

athletico madrid. vital moment. gerrard runs into some guy and does a belly flop. referee's decision: penalty. inter milan vs liverpool. over the two legs inter milan had 10 men for half of it.
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Real Madrid penality i think was actually a penalty.
Gerrard did dive i admit
Cant remember Inter game but honestly in the PL we get denied everything

Also, Besiktas are a quality team ive changed my mind :L
 
i think you have average luck in the prem.

i wish i had a clip of just the incident but this will have to do.

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his shoulder not a pen in my opinion.

incident is around 2:47
 
19-11 mate seriously look at that..Torres tugged him back slightly, Pepes a very big guy theres not a chance in **** that would have been enough to floor him. Hes leant back to clear lost his balance and Torres' pressure was just enough for him to slip
 
ohmygawdzz said:
19-11 mate seriously look at that..Torres tugged him back slightly, Pepes a very big guy theres not a chance in **** that would have been enough to floor him. Hes leant back to clear lost his balance and Torres' pressure was just enough for him to slip
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we're talking about different things i think. your first goal was fine but the penalty you got when it hit heinze's shoulder was not a penalty.

2:47 on the video.
 
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