DEMOLISHER !

mark876 said:
Thanks TFF!


I gave the tactic a quick go with Southampton and the results were amazing, I would appreciated if you could send me filters for it too

Cheers
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Would You share it? No point talk about it to make everyone begging for it... I would love to test some "normal" looking formation;)
 
White Europe said:
Would You share it? No point talk about it to make everyone begging for it... I would love to test some "normal" looking formation;)
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Hey mate,

I think that TFF wouldn't mind if I shared it but he didn't mention anything about it when he send it to me so I think it would be inappropriate to share it without his permission :(

I'm sure that when he comes online he'll send it to you or just share it for everyone
 
mark876 said:
Hey mate,

I think that TFF wouldn't mind if I shared it but he didn't mention anything about it when he send it to me so I think it would be inappropriate to share it without his permission :(

I'm sure that when he comes online he'll send it to you or just share it for everyone
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You probably right... Just sick of playing strikerless or three at the back at the moment, and all my attempts to create any stable 442,4231 or 4123 did fail...;)
 
ohhhh comon just share it... if he send it to you so im pretty shure he can share with everyone! He probably just dont want to open another thread couse demolisher shows better results... :)
 
omrgul said:
Even Barca's 3 at the back failed against Juventus' solid 4 2 3 1 last night :)
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omrgul said:
It's astonishing to see that the game which is supposed to be the best football simulation isn't supporting the most used formations in the real world. 4 2 3 1, 4 1 2 2 1 etc.
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Hey mate,


Here's how Juventus was defending against Barcelona during yesterday match

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As you can see when Juventus was defending its players were forming something similar to compact 442 formation

When Juventus was attacking its players were forming something similar to 4231 formation





Here's how Barcelona plays in La Liga during this season when it uses 4 defenders

When Barcelona defends it forms something similar to compact 442 formation, it looks like this:

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When Barcelona attacks it uses a very fluid asymmetric formation that looks this :

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As you can see in real like teams play in extremely complex way that FM can't simulate due lack of tools for it

I really don't understand what makes people to believe that in real life most teams play 4231, 433 or 442 formations, maybe people have such impression because before every match on TV, it represents every team in that way but that is far away from the truth and how teams play in real life is about 100 times more complex that simple 4231 or 433 formations.

FM is just a PC game and it's close to real life football as GTA to real life ;) and like in every PC game you play against AI and the main point it to beat AI/the ME.




P.S. about the tactic that I sent to Mark, there's nothing special in that tactic and it's weaker than Demolisher so don't bother with it.
 
Hey TFF, respect your insight and time to explain.

As a football fan with tactical knowledge, I would like to think that formations do mean something atleast. Certainly more than pre-match shows on TV.

Johan Cruyff talking about Diamond formation interpretation and how can it lead to a 3-4-3 and a 4231. Enjoy !!!

[video=youtube;7NZ0byEyeOA]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NZ0byEyeOA[/video]
 
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El Wray said:
youre not happy with being 2nd with just over half the season gone? id be content with that
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No, i just want to understand why the team is fantastic during away game and so inconsistent at home. The difference between away and home is unbelievable.
 
Hellicoum said:
I started a new save with Valencia to try the tactic and it's been going incredibly well so far, I'm topping the league with 45 points after, scored 49 goals and conceded only 9 goals the 1st half of the season! :)

This tactic is just insane! :)

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Hey

Did you make any transfers?
 
Fkleppe said:
Thank you! How often do you change from standard to defensive etc?
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I don't know did Zugal change the mentality or not in his save but I don't see any point in changining it to defensive, if you need to become more defensive then you just can use the waste time tactic
 
Meffisto said:
I just won English Premier League, FA Cup and EFL Cup with Southampton at my first season with them! :O :O

This tactic is the best tactic that I've tried in FM17 by far! Thanks, TFF! :)

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Hey,

Great result mate, did you use the strikerless version?
 
Hi TFF,
In the Striker version, should the STCR be Left-footed and the STCL right (so inverted setup)?

Or should it be left side-left foot, right side-right? Did you notice any difference in efficiency when you tested the tact?
 
Any suggestions for when your desperate for a goal?

Just change to attacking mentality, or is there something else I can try?
 
paulorchard2000 said:
Any suggestions for when your desperate for a goal?

Just change to attacking mentality, or is there something else I can try?
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I would stick to the original tactic, it's got enough attacking potential to break any defense and if it fails to do that then it's just bad luck or your opposition is much stronger than your team
 
Mikeyokeyy said:
I would stick to the original tactic, it's got enough attacking potential to break any defense and if it fails to do that then it's just bad luck or your opposition is much stronger than your team
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Thanks, I always switch to attacking but it doesn't seem to help, perhaps I should be more patient!
 
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