FM-Base 2010 Forum Skin

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Less Green...the colour of sick...and Ireland

just kidding
 
I like how you have left the retro FMBASE skin from yester year on there. If you add a few different skins it gives people the option to mess about with them

Only the Admins can see that skin Kris. I'm sure the majority of members on here won't even remember that old blue skin anyways.

i dont like the new skin

Any reasons why?
 
He is looking for reasons why you don't like it so he can take it in and make it better for everyone
 
Hey Sean,

Looks good overall. Here are a few things I think you should change:

1.
- Make the logo in the top right smaller and move it up into the row above.
- Get rid of the large green rectangle (unless that will be used for something later).

For example:
3781981774_793010b71f_o.jpg



Just makes the header alot more compact. Also makes it look better.


2. You should make links on the page a different colour to the regular text (probably green in this case). Or at least have them so they're underlined. Just so they're easy to spot.

I just noticed that when I hover my cursor over them, the text decoration changes to underlined and the font colour changes to green. That's how they should be when the mouse isn't hovering over them.

Or just have them green and then green-underline when the user hovers their cursor over them. Same idea as the old orange ones.


3. Make the background colour a light shade of grey instead of white. Easier on the eyes for those who use the forums alot.

4. For the same reason as no.3, make the text within the posts lighter or the background within the posts darker, so there's less of a contrast between the two.


Just a few suggestions :)
 
Hey Sean,

Looks good overall. Here are a few things I think you should change:

1.
- Make the logo in the top right smaller and move it up into the row above.
- Get rid of the large green rectangle (unless that will be used for something later).

For example:
3781981774_793010b71f_o.jpg



Just makes the header alot more compact. Also makes it look better.


2. You should make links on the page a different colour to the regular text (probably green in this case). Or at least have them so they're underlined. Just so they're easy to spot.

I just noticed that when I hover my cursor over them, the text decoration changes to underlined and the font colour changes to green. That's how they should be when the mouse isn't hovering over them.

Or just have them green and then green-underline when the user hovers their cursor over them. Same idea as the old orange ones.


3. Make the background colour a light shade of grey instead of white. Easier on the eyes for those who use the forums alot.

4. For the same reason as no.3, make the text within the posts lighter or the background within the posts darker, so there's less of a contrast between the two.


Just a few suggestions :)

1. Thanks for that screenshot. I was unaware that the header was broken in Chrome. I had tested it in IE8, Firefox & Opera and it's fine. I'm going to have to find out how to fix it. What the header should look like is....

<img src="http://lh6.ggpht.com/_MWCLfhZKhWU/SnazT4C4KoI/AAAAAAAAC0Y/GO_ABFO0h8E/s800/SS-20090803105137.jpg" />




2. Links are supposed to be showing up as green in threads. They should look like this...

<img src="http://lh5.ggpht.com/_MWCLfhZKhWU/Snaz1AX-9NI/AAAAAAAAC0c/vpNTZy6ZYVY/s800/SS-20090803105409.jpg" />

And when the cursor hovers over them....

<img src="http://lh4.ggpht.com/_MWCLfhZKhWU/Snaz3X1Un8I/AAAAAAAAC0g/nbEWUl21RD8/s800/SS-20090803105419.jpg" />



3 & 4. The background colour for the threads and forums is actually a light shade of grey. Although it is a very, very light grey. I may darken it slightly if I feel it needs doing. I may change the text too depending on what I do with the background-colours.

Thanks for your feedback. Much appreciated.
 
1. Thanks for that screenshot. I was unaware that the header was broken in Chrome. I had tested it in IE8, Firefox & Opera and it's fine. I'm going to have to find out how to fix it.

The first thing you should do is make sure all of your xHTML and CSS is valid. I've had a few websites appear perfect in IE and when I tested in Chrome they come out looking like ****. 9 out of 10 times there's a mistake in the code somewhere.

The validators are here: xHTML, CSS.

You're probably already aware of them but just incase.

Also, the thing I was saying about the links. The ones on the right of the page aren't green like the ones within forum posts. Maybe you should change that so all links are consistent like they are in the 2009 skin, where all links are orange.

I'm a bit of a perfectionist. Can you tell ;)
 
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The first thing you should do is make sure all of your xHTML and CSS is valid. I've had a few websites appear perfect in IE and when I tested in Chrome they come out looking like ****. 9 out of 10 times there's a mistake in the code somewhere.

The validators are here: xHTML, CSS.

You're probably already aware of them but just incase.

Also, the thing I was saying about the links. The ones on the right of the page aren't green like the ones within forum posts. Maybe you should change that so all links are consistent like they are in the 2009 skin, where all links are orange.

I'm a bit of a perfectionist. Can you tell ;)

I'm going to be honest there is no way I will be able to get these forums to meet the XHTML guidelines as I use a lot of 3rd party plugins which don't meet those standards. It would take forever to fix.

As for the CSS, as far as I know it's valid but I haven't checked it. I am really interested though to find out what's causing the header to look so different in Chrome though.

I'm going to keep the links on the right as Blue as I don't want them to distract from the main body of the page.
 
I am really interested though to find out what's causing the header to look so different in Chrome though.

Unfortunately mate, it's more than likely the fact that your xHTML/CSS isn't valid that's causing the problem. I've had websites where the header looked perfect in IE but didn't appear AT ALL( just white space) in Chrome because my code had mistakes in it.

Just make sure the CSS code is valid first and see if that makes a difference. It may well do. If not, then try your best to get the xHTML to validate. I could give you a hand in that regard if you like.
 
Unfortunately mate, it's more than likely the fact that your xHTML/CSS isn't valid that's causing the problem. I've had websites where the header looked perfect in IE but didn't appear AT ALL( just white space) in Chrome because my code had mistakes in it.

Just make sure the CSS code is valid first and see if that makes a difference. It may well do. If not, then try your best to get the xHTML to validate. I could give you a hand in that regard if you like.

I've managed to fix it. It now works fine in Firefox 3.5, Opera 10.00, Internet Explorer 8, Chrome 2.0.

It was just the CSS drop-down menu forcing the header to the right. Should be fine from now on :)
 
I've managed to fix it. It now works fine in Firefox 3.5, Opera 10.00, Internet Explorer 8, Chrome 2.0.

It was just the CSS drop-down menu forcing the header to the right. Should be fine from now on :)

Ah I see. Good thing you don't have to go through all your code and correct errors :)

Looks good!
 
This is now the default skin. So please can I get feedback on what's wrong and what needs fixing.

Thanks.
 
Is there anyway it can be changed back to the old skin
 
Alright, let me see.

1. Everything is far too big, the text and the size of the sub-forum headers, etc.

2. You can't see the last post made in each sub-forum, at least not on my resolution (1280 x 800 laptop).

Might be more to come.

Edit*

3. The amount of threads/posts in each section is missing. Maybe not that important, but I like the feature. If possible to add it back, I'd appreciate it. But it's your call.

Another edit*

4. Everything seems really clustered, might be based on the size of the text and sub-forum headings, etc. The main board seems to be too close to the additional boxes on the right of the page, and the alignment seems a bit off.

5. I think the option to go back to the 'Home Page' in the tree at the top of the forum is more of a hindrance than a good feature. I think the first thing should be 'Forums', so when people click it in a hurry, they don't end up off the forums.

6. There's no icon to show that there have been posts that you haven't read yet on each sub-forum heading.

That is all again for now.

Another quick edit*

7. The 'Welcome' bar which also includes your private messages menu seems to be half-hidden by the FM-Base banner, maybe put it below the main navigation bar, to the right of the forum tree.

8. There is no feature showing which members are viewing the thread now.
 
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i think its a grower i prefer the old one because its firmiler give sometime and in sure it will grow on me.
also when u go into along thread i.e chris22`s update the number of pages only appears at the bottom not at the top aswell so u have to scroll down anychance we could still have that at the top also? thx great work very modern!

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its a grower! on long threads i.e chris22`s update the page numbers only appear at the bottom so u have to scoll down? can we still have the at the top also? thx great work green is my fav colour also!
 
yes it has just thrown me but i think it looks nice and in time i will get used to it good work sean i can see you have put a lot of time and effort in to this:):):)
 
Alright, let me see.

1. Everything is far too big, the text and the size of the sub-forum headers, etc.

2. You can't see the last post made in each sub-forum, at least not on my resolution (1280 x 800 laptop).

Might be more to come.

Edit*

3. The amount of threads/posts in each section is missing. Maybe not that important, but I like the feature. If possible to add it back, I'd appreciate it. But it's your call.

Another edit*

4. Everything seems really clustered, might be based on the size of the text and sub-forum headings, etc. The main board seems to be too close to the additional boxes on the right of the page, and the alignment seems a bit off.

5. I think the option to go back to the 'Home Page' in the tree at the top of the forum is more of a hindrance than a good feature. I think the first thing should be 'Forums', so when people click it in a hurry, they don't end up off the forums.

6. There's no icon to show that there have been posts that you haven't read yet on each sub-forum heading.

That is all again for now.

Another quick edit*

7. The 'Welcome' bar which also includes your private messages menu seems to be half-hidden by the FM-Base banner, maybe put it below the main navigation bar, to the right of the forum tree.

8. There is no feature showing which members are viewing the thread now.

Thanks for your great feedback Billy.

1. I want things big because it makes everything a lot easier to find if the user is new to the forums.

2. I have removed that feature. I think I will add it again eventually, but I want to come up with a way so it still keeps the forum home looking clean and uncluttered.

3. That's something I don't want. It's not necessary and it doesn't make any difference to anybody how many posts there have been in a certain forum.

4. I have doubled the gap between the main body and the right column and it seems to have made it feel better now.

5. Yeah I think you're right. But for now I am keeping it. Just until I finish off the header as there will be a link to the home page in the very top left corner. Once that's added the home link will be removed from the breadcrumbs.

6. Ok I think this needs adding again. I will try and come up with a good way to show that a forum has unread posts.

7. I don't understand what you mean by that. Any chance of a screenshot so I can see what you mean.

8. I am planning on adding that to the bottom of a thread either just underneath or just above the thread tags.

i think its a grower i prefer the old one because its firmiler give sometime and in sure it will grow on me.
also when u go into along thread i.e chris22`s update the number of pages only appears at the bottom not at the top aswell so u have to scroll down anychance we could still have that at the top also? thx great work very modern!

Ah yes I forgot I removed that. I will be adding it tonight when I get time.

yes it has just thrown me but i think it looks nice and in time i will get used to it good work sean i can see you have put a lot of time and effort in to this:):):)

Yeah i'm sure it will cause a bit of confusion. But it is a very simple skin to use once you forget about the last one. I know I hate using the old one now, to me this is how FM-Base should be.
 
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