Football Manager 2014: Slider Removal ? good or bad?

[Mitre Delta 1000]

The tactic system needs complete overhaul.. You still cant tell players where to move during attacking or during defending..

I do agree with that point.
When Alan Shearer was playing for Sir Bobby he was told to go no wider than the eighteen yard box.
"I don't want you playing in wide positions, I want you on the end of crosses, not providing them"
And that's what I want from my strikers in the game.

There also needs to be a way of telling player 'A' to cover for player 'B' if he moves moves forward. Like for instance a winger dropping deeper and acting as fullback cover if the fullback goes forward.

 

[miguelalves]

The removal of sliders is not bad, neither is this new system. But it needs serious improvements:

a) Not being able to see the default player instructions is something completly out of common sense. No need for tweaking everything, simply seeing and knowing the default player instructions and how they change when we select team instructions and roles;

b) Some player instruction could be a simple on / off button, similar to the instructions in fm13 "move into channels"

c) Football is not an exact science, ruler and square, or logic: SI, through this new system, is giving us a ruler and square, something like "Here, take this, you have this roles, the logic says this roles are supposed to do this and that". So, it serious lacks some customizing not according to the SI logic, but according to our logic as managers;

d) If you are going to change the system, change it well: it's amazing how after 20 years or so of FM there are still missing basic tactical options, since you can either go for a zonal pressing (where player A presses opponent B) or man marking. Pressing the opponent with the ball, which would allow our team to have 2 or 3 players pressing simply doesn't exist. Also, it seems moral and composure are not important to SI since there is still no possibility of telling a player during a match to calm down, run more, try harder, you are doing great, keep on going and things like this.

So, I believe there's a lot more than just sliders or no sliders.

 

[Mitre Delta 1000]

This is why I believe that we should have new game every two years, and an update to the current game in the intervening years with stuff that's ready to ship
This way we might not end up with the shambles that (IMO) was FM13 and SI has more time to make ME/AI changes that arn't game breaking bollox.

 

[joejoejoey]

I think either the sliders, or player roles had to go.

They didn't work hand in hand. What's the point in having a poacher, if by using the sliders, you could make him drop deep, hold the ball up, shoot less, be more creative, close down in his own pitch etc etc etc.

So now, if you have a great deep lying playmaker, you can just set him to DLP role and that's that.