GRANDE Wide 41221-The Better Half´s Final Sets

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In this thread, you will find a set of tactics, just like in my old threads for FM09 and FM10. You might argue that since the introduction of the Tactical Creator, these sets have become obsolete but as I am not finding the structure of Defensive, Counter, Balanced, Control good enough, I decided to make my own framework of these different strategies. As you see, these tactics have been made in the Classic Mode so shouts are disabled, along with the ability to see the players roles and crucial stats.

Why use this set then ?. Well, basically, its for users that likes the idea of being if charge, using micro management but feels that the wizard has too many options that are just not good enough. Its for people that whilst wanting to win every game feel that there is more to it then just plug & play but wanting some easy guidelines on how to do it. For people that have a decent knowledge how the match engine works and knows when to attack and when to defend but just don't fancy the Tactic Creator. In short, if you are truly great at reading the game and pay attention to every single detail, then this set is not for you as you wont need it but for those that likes the idea of using other peoples tactics and wanting to learn something on the way, not just plug & playing, then this is for you


Assumption 1

All versions must have a descriptive name and as this always leads to different definitions due to ones personal perspective, people will interpret the text beneath differently. There for, its important that you read the follow text a few times, load up the different tactics and read it once more

Assumption 2

People crave for confirmation and as I am a human, dont hesitate to rate the thread




The Versions

As I stated earlier, I am not that keen on the structure of the preset Strategies in the Wizard. Basically, I feel that they are too many and that whilst the shouts are a great way to implement several tweaks by just one or two clicks, they are not helping me as ( for example) when I want to play wider, push up the team and get ball forward, I might still want to do this using the same passing game and the same tempo, only using more t-balls and more width etc. Naturally, using only 6 preset approaches is far more static then the TC, but its an approach that I feel more comfortable with. In this set, you will see that there is no Contain version, no defensive, no Balanced, no Control, no attack or no Overload. Instead, I have chosen to call the versions the following.

Defend – something in between the normal Contain and Defend, but more aggressive
Cautious – Something in between Defend and Balanced
Counter – Something similar to the TC Counter but here we use it only as in the description
Standard – Something in between Balanced and Attack
Slow Breakdown – A version that I feel is lacking in the TC, a way to play cautious whilst playing ultra aggressive
Overloading Attack – A mixture between Attack and Overload

So you see, by using these versions, there are really only 2 starting options, at least when playing as a normal team. Either you go for a more cautious approach, using CAUTIOUS or you go for a more attacking one, using STANDARD. If being top of the league and outclassing the opponents in terms of quality, its possible that SLOW BREAKDOWN would be the best version to start all matches with, almost like today's Barcelona do. Don't expect this version to replicate the flow of that team though as its not the though at all. With this said, please read further on to see the full description of the different versions



Defend

This is one of two versions where we use a different formation, pulling back the AMR/L into the MR/L positions. Used to defend a lead, play a defensive appraoch within a more defensive formation or keep a loss to its minimum. We don't sit too deep and just defend though, we will attack as well as keeping possession in advanced positions is one of the keys to holding off the opponents

Cautious

This is a more cautious approach towards a game. Don’t be fooled by the name and that its only the 2nd most attacking tactic in order of the set. Even if playing as a top team, this approach is a good one when being on the road. In real life, very few teams actually play attacking away from home. We play slow and narrow, using ,many players to hold on to the ball and we do launch quick counter attacks when the players feels those passing options are on

Counter

Warning: This version is more direct and when playing on the counter, you need to make sure that here is actually something to counter, space in the 3rd half to play the ball into. With the counter box ticked, the players will, unlike the Cautious version, launch these counter attacks more frequently and mots importantly, even though the opponent sits with many men behind the ball. Personally, I would never use this as a starting version only based on the assumption that the opponent will push up their fullbacks and threaten us form the start. Use incorrectly, we will see a big loss in possession and being hit on the counter ourselves. Used correctly, its much more deadly than the Cautious version

Standard

As there is no Attack version in this set, this one is the Standard approach when not wanting to play cautious. It will never be about possession but about the scoreline. If playing as Everton/Man U/Arsenal/Sunderland home to WBA, this would be my main starting version.

Slow Breakdown

More attacking than Standard ?. Hm, actually not but as the title suggests, it’s a more probing approach. Within almost the same cautious approach as the version cautious, we here push up the line of defence and hassle the opponent. We use more of the pitch width and play down the flanks to drag those deep sitting opponents apart

Overloading Attack

This is the 2nd version using a different formation, now puhsing up the AMR/L into the FR/L positions Here, we push up the team and overload the area where the ball is. We use the space out wide and hassle the opponent into making defensive errors. Lots of movement along with an attacking mentality sees us pushing hem back again and again. Why should one not use this tactic all the time then ?. Well as you probably understand, you might easily get hit on the counter by the opponent and the players don’t have the stamina to play like this whole matches.



Players


Goalkeeper:

Common sense applies

Central Defenders
Here, we use a sort of limited stoppers. As always, its better to have the best defenders in the world and not **** players so again, common sense here boys. These players are on tight zonal marking and even though we don’t play with a high d-line in most versions, pace and anticipation is crucial when up against those ME exploiting pacey attackers with flair
Attacking Keys: Passing
Defensive Keys: Positioning, Anticipation, Marking, Tackling, Strength, Concentration, Jumping, Heading


Fullbacks
Same here really. Common sense. One thing that one do need to look out for are the players with really attacking ppms. Although this brings another dimension to the attack, they get caught out of position too often.
Attacking Keys:Crossing, Passing,
Defensive Keys: Positioning, Anticipation, Marking, Tackling, Stamina, Concentration Pace


Defensive Midfielder
Here, I use an anchorman. He is on Loose zonal and his job is to stay central and cut angels rather than to chase players a cross the field. I like this player to be bale to get in a good defensive position, be able to read the game and break up attacks. If you have a slow and has the looks rather then the brain, you might suffer. Work rate, determination, anticipation along with some physic and you are good to go
Attacking Keys:Passing
Defensive Keys: Anticipation, Positioning, Marking, Tackling, Concentration


Central Mid – RIGHT
A mixture between your Box to Box midfielder, Hardworking Ball winner and a Elegant AMC. Can you have a player like this in the CCC1 ?. Well, **** no. What I am saying is that amongst your MC´s, the player with the better attacking stats and more adventurous ppms should be played here. If he is strong to and knows how to break up attacks, then its just great
Attacking Keys:First Touch, Technique,, Pace, Passing, Off the ball
Defensive Keys: Anticipation, Positioning, Marking, Tackling, Concentration



Central Mid – LEFT
Here, we have the mixture of a great passer and a strong ball winner. Again, just like in the role above, this is a player rarely seen in the lower leagues but again, here, we play the ones that stays behind, breaks up attacks and keeps a simple but yet effective passing game
Attacking Keys:Creativity, Technique, Passing, Composure
Defensive Keys: Positioning, Marking, Tackling, Strength

Wingers
Hm… left foot on right or left on left. Well, in this tactic, it does not matter. If you have a great heading monster in the Forward position, well , then perhaps some crosses are in order, just like its better to have In Cutting wingers ( by ppms) if all the opposition players with a really, really deep d-line and no DMCs, all the mids pushing up.

Just remember that in some cases, players( left on right) with the cut inside ppms are too selfish (low team work) and then, they will go straight at goal at all times, even if having a really poor angel and good passing options is on.

The wingers are setup to dribble and beat their man. They rarely cross but as this is to be seen as a tendency rather then big no no, they will still make that cross when the options is there, preferably to the far post where the winger on the other flank has, by using his skill or ppm, moved towards.
Attacking Keys:Off the ball, Acceleration, Pace, Dribbling, Crossing, Flair, Passing, Technique, Finishing
Defensive Keys: None really


Forward
Aha.. here we have my favourite, The complete linkman. He roam around the pitch from deep. He hold onto the ball and whilst his passing game is set to direct, he still makes those easy passes when linking up with play, before getting inside the area. This player needs his pace. Players like Beckford at Everton is a monster here and I just cant imagine how good R.V.Persie would be. Just notice that when using a single FC formation, its crucial that this players one of the best of the team. After all, you using just one FC and if he cant score, link up with play, then it’s all over. As always, its all about having balance in the team and making sure that all areas have more strength then flaws
Attacking Keys:Of the ball, Flair, Acceleration ( and pace) Finishing, Composure, Strength
Defensive Keys: none



Set Pieces

I actually used a downloaded tactic when making these ones, using it as a clean sheet so the set pieces are from that one. Defensively they seem really good and we score our fair share on the attacking, mostly from free kicks but also some from corners( mostly against poor teams though). Feel free to change them to something better or worse


Match Preparation


The match preparation is divided into 3 different areas

The 3 chosen tactics for the team to learn

- I would either use the 3 versions I am most likely to use. If going to use them all, then load up Cautious, Standard and Attacking Overload. This way, the team Will gets the best fluidity with the tempo, width, passing, mentality, press, etc that is used in all 6 versions

The Workload
This slider dictates how much time the team puts into learning the chosen tactics. Remember that the higher the workload, the less time the team spends on the training ground, improving their stats.

The focus area

Preseason: When using a focus area, this takes up some of the time the team spends on getting fluid with the tactic. In preseason, playing a new save or if having lots of new players, you do need to use Team Blend so get the squad familiar with each other, playing as a team but if the team is already blended, I normally don't use any

Pre Match: Here, i cant make any recommendations as such. There is no focus area that links up with this set so its common sense. If wanting to sacrifice some of the defensive stability to get better attacking movements, then this is perhaps something you do when facing those deep sitting teams that you should beat, using the more attacking versions. Under opposite circumstances, well, you get my point. As for the attacking and defensive set pieces focus area, i use them only when I have a really good reason to. As an example, in my next game, playing as Everton home to Aston Villa, i see that they have scored 6 goals from corners in just 7 matches so here, I might go for focusing extra on Defensing set pieces, just like I might go for attacking set pieces away against a team where I see this as a chance to ****** the 3 points late in the game, playing cautious throughout the game


Other Information

As for pitch size, I cant make any recommendations, its just down to common sense. If playing with a **** team in a huge pitch and you might be in for trouble though, just like when playing in a very short field with your top notch team. Team talks, and opposition instructions are also things that cant be recommended as it would depend heavily on the situation



Results

I will not upload any fantastic screens of my success as it would be irrelevant. Incorrectly used, this set will see you under perform and correctly used, you will achieve your goals as long as they actually are in reach and not based on an illusion ;DTeams that have been used in testing are: Milan, Genoa,, AIK ( SWE), MFF(SWE) and Blackburn. Currently I am enjoying a save with Everton 2011/12 update and will keep you posted with some results

My other sets

GRANDE FLAT 442 - Tactic Set of 6 versions by THE BETTER HALF - 11.3


GRANDE WIDE 4231- The Better Half´s Final Sets
 
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Screens of the succes or the tactcal settings ?

Results

I will not upload any fantastic screens of my success as it would be irrelevant. Incorrectly used, this set will see you under perform and correctly used, you will achieve your goals as long as they actually are in reach and not based on an illusion ;DTeams that have been used in testing are: Milan, Genoa,, AIK ( SWE), MFF(SWE) and Blackburn. Currently I am enjoying a save with Everton 2011/12 update and will keep you posted with some results
 
tactical settings

Will look in to that and how the format of the presentation should look like. After all, its 6 tactics with at least 8 settings each that needs to be show as its classic mode and no players are on team mentality( that is just bang in the middle) etc. Not sute that users would like to click almost 50 links though :D
 
I do not know English too well so I ask this:
- witch tactics you start the match at home against a weaker team
- which tactics you start the match at home against a very good team

- which tactics you start the match away with a weaker team
- which tactics you start the match away with a very good team
 
I do not know English too well so I ask this:
- witch tactics you start the match at home against a weaker team
- which tactics you start the match at home against a very good team

- which tactics you start the match away with a weaker team
- which tactics you start the match away with a very good team

To be honest, i think that without the ability to read the text and fully understand how the versions work, I think you are going to struggle. If only wanting to use the two main starting versions, standard and cautious, you start matches where you should win with standard and when wanting to be on the safe side, you start with cautious. Just remember that if playing as à top team away to à team in the middle, place 7-11, that team is probably rather good to.
 
I forgot to add the information about match preperation. In the OP, I stated that it depended on the situation but then I was refering to the focus area. When it comes to loading up tactics so the team get fluid with it, I would either use the 3 versions I am most likely to use... or..... if going to use them all ... Then load up Cautious, Standard and Attacking Overload. This way, the team Will get fluid with the tempo, width, passing, mentality, press, etc that is used in all 6 versions
 
I ran it himself for looking carefully at all the tactics :)
 
I decided to start up a new " clean" save with Milan, using the uploaded set rather than the one I used when tweaking it.


Results have been really good. Early in the season, when the team is not fluid with the tactic, we failed to keep clean sheets. Alhough winning the mathes, being up 3-0, most matches ended up 4-2. When the team jag become fluid enough, those 3-0 became 4-0 instead. After 15 matches, we stand om 14 Wins and one draw,beating both Napoli and Inter away from home . This with Our best two DCs out injuried for 9 matches.


Will return to My Everton save now that I am enjoying ever so much. So far, we have 6 wins and one draw, scoring à **** à lot of goals and conceding very few.
 
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I decided to start up a new " clean" save with Milan, using the uploaded set rather than the one I used when tweaking it.


Results have been really good. Early in the season, when the team is not fluid with the tactic, we failed to keep clean sheets. Alhough winning the mathes, being up 3-0, most matches ended up 4-2. When the team jag become fluid enough, those 3-0 became 4-0 instead. After 15 matches, we stand om 14 Wins and one draw,beating both Napoli and Inter away from home . This with Our best two DCs out injuried for 9 matches.


Will return to My Everton save now that I am enjoying ever so much. So far, we have 6 wins and one draw, scoring à **** à lot of goals and conceding very few.


TBH:
Do you use all your versions or just a few of them?
And could you recommend a team or a couple for me, that I can start a save with:)
 
TBH:
Do you use all your versions or just a few of them?
And could you recommend a team or a couple for me, that I can start a save with:)

As I am on a Iphone, I cant go into tio much detail about the version picking. The best way to understand how they work is ( besides reading the OP) to play many friendlies, perhaps even managing your reserve team and watch some matches, using the different versions.

In My new Everton save, I have played 7 matches + 2 cup( beating man c) and i have used all the versions. Away from home, I have used cautious in all matches apart from barnsley in the league cup. at home, its been standard against all normal teams and cautious against Chelsea.

If I recall Correctly, these have been some of the results :

Away- Qpr 8-1 win
Started with cautious and went 4-1 up at half time. 2nd half, 10 minutes in, they played counter and narrow, so i switched to slow breakdown and scored 4 more, creating, 11 CCCs

Home: WBA 4-1 win
Started standard, went 2-0 up, then conceeded from à corner, then scored 3-1. In the 80th min, they attacked me and i switched to counter and scored 4-1

Away: spurs 1-0 win
Started cautious , controlled the match and scored 1-0, then went defend for 65 minutes.

Home: sunderland
Started standard, went 3-0 up , then decided to crush them as they say really deep looking neervous, so i switched to attacking overload and won 6-0. As they sat deep and made clearences and not direct balls into channels, I was able to do so ,so here Its important so see the difference between this 2
 
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As I am on a Iphone, I cant go into tio much detail about the version picking. The best way to understand how they work is ( besides reading the OP) to play many friendlies, perhaps even managing your reserve team and watch some matches, using the different versions.

In My new Everton save, I have played 7 matches + 2 cup( beating man c) and i have used all the versions. Away from home, I have used cautious in all matches apart from barnsley in the league cup. at home, its been standard against all normal teams and cautious against Chelsea.

If I recall Correctly, these have been some of the results :

Away- Qpr 8-1 win
Started with cautious and went 4-1 up at half time. 2nd half, 10 minutes in, they played counter and narrow, so i switched to slow breakdown and scored 4 more, creating, 11 CCCs

Home: WBA 4-1 win
Started standard, went 2-0 up, then conceeded from à corner, then scored 3-1. In the 80th min, they attacked me and i switched to counter and scored 4-1

Away: spurs 1-0 win
Started cautious , controlled the match and scored 1-0, then went defend for 65 minutes.

Home: sunderland
Started standard, went 3-0 up , then decided to crush them as they say really deep looking neervous, so i switched to attacking overload and won 6-0. As they sat deep and made clearences and not direct balls into channels, I was able to do so ,so here Its important so see the difference between this 2


Thanks!
Will try it out:)
 
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Home: Chelsea 1-0 win
Started cautious
They actually dominated the first 15 minutes heavily , hassling us across the whole field. I then considered using counter bit as they sat rather deep with their defenders and it looked more like we where having à poor game, I went DEFEND for 30 minutes to get à grip of the match, grinding it out. Om halftime, I made some teamtalks so that I could get into the game again, going back to CAUTIOUS. We scored quickly and where in control of the match. In the last 20 min, we used DEFEND
 
Match Prep?

If you are refering to the focus area, then its in the opening post( under other information) As written there, it simply cant be recommended as my focus area depends on what team I am managing, what team i am playing against, what version I am using and how the opponents play and their strengths and flaws.

The tactic match prep is found in post 9.

Preseason, when to use team blend and the workload depends on the team. This part has nothing to do with the tactic
 
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