How I setup my tactics, and rules that I follow

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more agressive BEATS more fluid

more fluid BEATS less agressive.

less agressive BEATS more structured

more structured BEATS more agressive.

Could you please elaborate? I'm not sure what you mean here, are you referring to mentalities? Like a more aggressive mentality beats a more fluid shape?

Thanks again, Igneos79, having a lot of fun with the game ATM.
 
Could you please elaborate? I'm not sure what you mean here, are you referring to mentalities? Like a more aggressive mentality beats a more fluid shape?

Thanks again, Igneos79, having a lot of fun with the game ATM.

yup. exactly that....a more agressive mentality beats a more fluid shape....if chelsea and barcelona are playing more fluid and less agressive, and you have decent enough players, you will beat them by playing more fluid and more agressive...the explanation is rather simple: if they play more fluid, they are more compact and their sidebacks probably more agressive, which leaves them vulnerable out wide. If you play agressive, which means playing wider, you will stretch them and kill them on the flanks...if they are also holding back and playing less agressively, you can screw with them by playing more fluidly...bayern did that in ch final against barca in 2013....of course, they had a lot better manager back then...
 
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yup. exactly that....a more agressive mentality beats a more fluid shape....if chelsea and barcelona are playing more fluid and less agressive, and you have decent enough players, you will beat them by playing more fluid and more agressive...the explanation is rather simple: if they play more fluid, they are more compact and their sidebacks probably more agressive, which leaves them vulnerable out wide. If you play agressive, which means playing wider, you will stretch them and kill them on the flanks...if they are also holding back and playing less agressively, you can screw with them by playing more fluidly...bayern did that in ch final against barca in 2013....of course, they had a lot better manager back then...

Thanks a lot, man. That's what I thought. When you're in a match, do you have "comprehensive" highlights on? I'm having a little trouble identifying what type of setup my opponents are going with, like when I'm trying to determine if they are playing more or less fluidly. I read what you said about starting every match on "standard" mentality, with no TI's, and then specializing your approach after watching what the opponent does. What are the more common signs you are looking for in this situation? I really appreciate the help btw.
 
Thanks a lot, man. That's what I thought. When you're in a match, do you have "comprehensive" highlights on? I'm having a little trouble identifying what type of setup my opponents are going with, like when I'm trying to determine if they are playing more or less fluidly. I read what you said about starting every match on "standard" mentality, with no TI's, and then specializing your approach after watching what the opponent does. What are the more common signs you are looking for in this situation? I really appreciate the help btw.

If my players are physically weak, I always play less agressively. Fluidity is something that I change as I progress through the leagues. With a semi professional club, I play highly structured, and with barcelona, I play very fluid. More physicall players lack agility and vice versa, so you can't really play everything with everyone. Unless you have a very balanced squad. And not all managers adhere to these instructions, so even if you see their sideback overlapping and attacking, it doesn't necesarrily mean they are a very fluid side. I guess if you had tapes of their previous matches, you could analyse their movement and determine the best course of action....If you have a balanced squad, use standard mentality when you don't know what to expect.
 
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The first shot is from my standard tactic with no TIs this tactic performs well
The second shot is from my control tactic with TIs as shown my striker in this tactic doesn't do very well and the tactic is ok
The third set of shots is from my final counter tactic that doesn't perform well either despite having a defensive midfielder and playing conservatively this tactic doesn't perform well even defensively
kindly advise
 
well, pure counter attacking relies on short passing or retaining possession, to draw opposition forward and then clear ball to flanks and start a counter when they have commited forward. A less agressive mentality and a more structured fluidity is needed, so you want a well balanced formation that features triangles...a 4-1-2-3 DM Wide is good for a structured setup, or an asymmetric one for highly structured. That would work if you get attacked. If opponent is holding back, you should play more fluidly, which would no longer be pure counter attacking, but playing through defence, as you will be asking everyone to do more, your defenders help overload the final third, and your forwards to create chances and help defence, meaning you can change formation even to a flat one.
I've posted a thread, concerning to some help on my idea of style play, but unfortunately I ain't get any reply, but maybe I could be helped here..... My idea is to play a two upfront with a men behind them and a counter attacking game against better team and offensive against weak team..... Any advice on what kind of roles suits and any help will be appreciated thanks
 
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The first shot is from my standard tactic with no TIs this tactic performs well
The second shot is from my control tactic with TIs as shown my striker in this tactic doesn't do very well and the tactic is ok
The third set of shots is from my final counter tactic that doesn't perform well either despite having a defensive midfielder and playing conservatively this tactic doesn't perform well even defensively
kindly advise

well your striker obviously isn't fit for second tactic...and in third tactic you have a sk and dont have drop deeper?

I've posted a thread, concerning to some help on my idea of style play, but unfortunately I ain't get any reply, but maybe I could be helped here..... My idea is to play a two upfront with a men behind them and a counter attacking game against better team and offensive against weak team..... Any advice on what kind of roles suits and any help will be appreciated thanks

I have no idea what you want me to say? Read the OP and act accordingly...If you want to...
 
In OP when you mention which role suits to Structured, fluid etc you didn't mention Inside Forwards. Is it something you forgot?
 

well, he seems ok....did you change anything else with the tactic? How do you prepare for matches? Do you use OI? Did you plugin the tactic in the middle of the season or have you played at least ten games with it? Against who did you use that tactic against? Are other players fit for the job? What was your pre match media talk? Do you talk to players and what do you say? what is his morale?

In OP when you mention which role suits to Structured, fluid etc you didn't mention Inside Forwards. Is it something you forgot?

no, it was deliberate. Theres a plethora of roles I don't recommend. That is because some of them work in one style well, and in other style not so good. That is why I only recommend non specialised roles with the exception of very fluid which requires roaming roles.
 
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Maybe you could give some explanation

no, it was deliberate. Theres a plethora of roles I don't recommend. That is because some of them work in one style well, and in other style not so good. That is why I only recommend non specialised roles with the exception of very fluid which requires roaming roles.
 
Would "Go Route One" or "More Direct Passing" not lead to the GK and CB's lumping the ball forward quickly to the forward players? How would this work with "Play Out Of Defence"? Are these not 2 different styles of play?
 
Would "Go Route One" or "More Direct Passing" not lead to the GK and CB's lumping the ball forward quickly to the forward players? How would this work with "Play Out Of Defence"? Are these not 2 different styles of play?

Play out of defence shortens passing range to defenders...which is required when you play more agressively and push up, since they will be closer to midfield...if they were further away from midfield, in a reverse setup, passing range would have to be lengthened....
 
im thinking to start a save in vanarama league and the players is not so good there and i want to play with a target and pocher up front.. so how can i set up that ?? 4-4-2 or 4-2-2-2 thanks in advice
 
im thinking to start a save in vanarama league and the players is not so good there and i want to play with a target and pocher up front.. so how can i set up that ?? 4-4-2 or 4-2-2-2 thanks in advice

poor trolling dude...
 
On a 4-2-3-1 fluid you recommend Wingers - Attack.. is it better to have right foot on right and left foot on left? or is players like Neymar, Depay and such good as winger - attack with opposite foot?
 
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