Liverpool agree Adam fee

Blackpool have got a heck of a deal here.

What's the deal with speculation about Meireles leaving? He had a good season, who wants him gone? Himself or Dalglish?

Meireles has said he wants to stay. I think the only reason he's mentioned as someone who will be leaving is because of his age.
 
Don't get me wrong, Charlie Adam is a great player, but he is not good enough to play for a top 6 team, more a mid table team. You just know that he is going to rot on the sidelines.
 
Sure. But I think everyone will agree that we have way to many Central midfielders.

DM's - Lucas/Spearing
CM's - Gerrard, Meireles, Shelvey, Adam, Aquilani - Gerrard won't play much anymore, Shelvey is going out on loan so that leaves Meireles/Adam/Aquilani fighting for 1 or 2 places. I haven't included Henderson in this, because chances are he will play RM.

So there's not too many there to be honest..
 
**** sake.

Probably the only 'Pool fan who objects to this. Shame I can't find the article that that undermimes him so much. Never been a top 6 player.

EDIT: Found it.

Charlie losing his sheen

Footballers are not known for their appreciation of the underdog. In a culture where wealth and fame are seen as signs of success, they have a few designated clichés ("there are no easy games in football") that are deployed to deter suggestions of complacency. But, more often than not, they gravitate towards the rich and famous. And when it comes to the end-of-season honours, they vote for them, too.

All of which heightens Charlie Adam's achievement in being shortlisted for the PFA Player of the Year award. He is the greatest outsider in the reckoning since Georgi Kinkladze and Sasa Curcic gained support 15 years ago. Like Adam, both were newcomers to the division without a natural constituency of friends to support their candidacy as well as being flair players in teams at the wrong end of the table.
So the Scot represents the unlikeliest interloper at a private party in a decade and a half, but the recognition is deserved. In recent Premier League history, Paul Scholes and Xabi Alonso may be the only midfielders to have played as many inch-perfect 60-yard passes. His importance to Blackpool is obvious, too: their captain, talisman and joint top scorer is also their player with most shots on and off target, the one who has delivered most crosses and got most assists, their most fouled footballer and the one who has committed most offences, earning most bookings. It is harsh on his more deserving team-mates to brand Blackpool a one-man team, but when Adam served a two-match ban recently, the Seasiders lost both games by an aggregate score of 7-1.
A dramatic leap to a position of prominence was confirmed at the end of transfer window when Manchester United, Liverpool and Tottenham all expressed an interest in him and when Aston Villa's bids were deemed derisory by Ian Holloway. Whether or not Blackpool's spell in the Premier League proves short-lived, Adam's time at Bloomfield Road is nearing its end.
So why, then, should the elite managers ignore Adam this summer? He possesses proven leadership qualities, has excelled in many of the major matches (Liverpool twice, Manchester United, Manchester City and Tottenham, as well as last season's play-off final) and Sir Alex Ferguson said his corners alone were worth £10 million.
But Blackpool's slide towards the relegation zone indicates that opponents are savvier about stopping them in general, and Adam in particular. He is no longer afforded so much space and his distribution is disrupted. Hassling and harrying Adam has its benefits. He remains capable of extraordinary balls, but his pass-completion rate is decreasing - it was under 50% in the recent draw with Blackburn - partly because of a preference for the overambitious. It is eye-catching, but the bigger clubs tend to value unobtrusive neatness on the ball.
Then there is the feature that endears Adam to many - his physique. He is often described as an old-fashioned footballer and a throwback, resembling the man on the street more than the average athlete. Yet this has a drawback as, when Adam runs out of steam, often around the hour mark, so do Blackpool. They concede late goals by the bucketload: three in 19 minutes against United, three in 14 against Everton, 13 in the last five minutes of matches. Once momentum is lost, it is rarely regained: Holloway has a habit of taking Adam off in the 88th minute and Blackpool's defence tends to be breached in his absence.
Moreover, the manner of the goals can be damning. Adam is a deep-lying midfielder, but not a defensive one. Kieran Richardson twice sprinted away from him to score for Sunderland in February; so did Arsenal's Abou Diaby on Sunday. Quite simply, he tracks too few runners back into his own box.
That can be forgiven at Blackpool, but perhaps not elsewhere. He benefits from pre-eminence at Bloomfield Road but a man who floundered on the fringes of the Rangers squad would encounter a different environment elsewhere. Unless a team is built around him, a certain mentality is required to prosper among squads of 20 or 25 internationals. The survivors can deal with exclusion, brief cameos, being played out of position and parachuted into crucial games. Adam's peripatetic career before he benefited from Holloway's infectious enthusiasm does not suggest he is equipped for it.


In any event, it is hard to see where some of his supposed suitors could accommodate him, especially as Adam seems to lack the engine to operate in an orthodox 4-4-2. Harry Redknapp's propensity to accumulate players is well known but Luka Modric is his premier playmaker, allying an impressive work ethic to his passing game. With Sandro's emergence and Tom Huddlestone's talent, he is not short of potential partners, each of whom offers more defensively than Adam can. At Anfield, meanwhile, Kenny Dalglish has indicated that he sees Steven Gerrard's future in the centre of midfield, rather than a more advanced role. Finding room for the captain and Raul Meireles may pose problems enough without signing Adam; in any case, the recruit Liverpool really require in that department is a belated replacement for Javier Mascherano, not another more attack-minded player.
That leaves Manchester United. Adam could be seen as a budget successor to Scholes in a midfield where the only creators who can play in the middle are 36 and 37 respectively. Ferguson's willingness to field three central midfielders would suit him, but it has been challenged by Javier Hernandez's precocity, which has brought a reversion to a strike duo. To pick a pair in the middle against demanding opponents would mean his partner must be a workaholic to compensate for Adam's immobility. He could illuminate routine wins at Old Trafford, but a three-dimensional player is what United actually need.
Feted for his improbable rise, Adam's future may nevertheless be as uncertain as Blackpool's. While he merits a pay rise and the chance to display his talent on a grander stage, this season threatens to be a one-off for captain and club alike.



- Anything more than £5 Million, and we've been had. Again.


 
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Jones, don't be so pessimistic all the time, at least wait until he's played to judge him, Christ.
 
DM's - Lucas/Spearing
CM's - Gerrard, Meireles, Shelvey, Adam, Aquilani - Gerrard won't play much anymore, Shelvey is going out on loan so that leaves Meireles/Adam/Aquilani fighting for 1 or 2 places. I haven't included Henderson in this, because chances are he will play RM.

So there's not too many there to be honest..

Spearing is not a DM. He's not an enforcer like Lucas has learnt to be. If anything he's a true CM. If anyone drops back to do a job in front of the back four I have a sneeking feeling that it might be Stevie where, he won't have to burst forward so much.. Just mo like.
 
Meireles > Adam. However, it sems as if Dalglish wants to make a British team by all the buys he has been making, so you might be right

only place Meireles was better was defensive interceptions
 
Mike, your link is to Stewart Downing (A signing who actually, I don't object to).

I'm sorry guys, that I don't follow the hype with him.
 
Meireles, Gerrard, Lucas, Spearing, Henderson, Poulsen, Shelvey, Aquilani and now Adam. That's a little bit too many CMs, don't you all think so?

Gerrard is injury prone. Poulsen, Shelvey, Aquilani and arguably Spearing are not good enough for the prem.
 
So, which central midfielders leave.....Liverpool have to get a squad 0f 25, and at the moment, half of those will be CM
 
only place Meireles was better was defensive interceptions

I can't remember who pointed it out to you, but have you ever thought that Charlie Adam's stats were better than Meireles' because EVERYTHING went through him at Blackpool.

If he's not good enough for Rangers, he certainly isn't good enough for Liverpool Football Club.
 
I can't remember who pointed it out to you, but have you ever thought that Charlie Adam's stats were better than Meireles' because EVERYTHING went through him at Blackpool.

If he's not good enough for Rangers, he certainly isn't good enough for Liverpool Football Club.

er yeah, kinda thought about that in the first place...

But doesnt change what happens when they are both actually on the ball, or defensively either

Adam is simply a much more creative player, and more suited to Carrolls game, and find Suarez with direct balls than Meirles is

Lucas/Adam has a very good blend there, they cover for each others weaknesses
 
I can't remember who pointed it out to you, but have you ever thought that Charlie Adam's stats were better than Meireles' because EVERYTHING went through him at Blackpool.

If he's not good enough for Rangers, he certainly isn't good enough for Liverpool Football Club.

But maybe Meireles stats were inflated because he was playing in a better team than Adam?
 
Gerrard is injury prone. Poulsen, Shelvey, Aquilani and arguably Spearing are not good enough for the prem.

Aquilani played very well in the games he did play in the PL, not sure what you are basing that off.

Spearing - uhm, don't watch much Liverpool do you? Every game he puts in a heck of a shift and rarely plays poorly, a good performer.

Poulsen -will be sold.

Shelvey is what, 18/19? He will be loaned out this season.

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So, which central midfielders leave.....Liverpool have to get a squad 0f 25, and at the moment, half of those will be CM

Most teams don't even register 25, think we only had 21 last year. And youngsters of the age of 20(maybe 19) and younger don't have to be registered. There is no worries on that front.
 
As long as we don't sell Meireles or Aquilani I'll be happy.

Gerrard is injury prone. Poulsen, Shelvey, Aquilani and arguably Spearing are not good enough for the prem.

Poulson is ****, Aquilani is good enough for Juve but not the Prem? Yeah okay then.. Spearing is still young and did well when Dalglish picked him, Shelvey will probs go to Blackpool on loan.
 
I can't remember who pointed it out to you, but have you ever thought that Charlie Adam's stats were better than Meireles' because EVERYTHING went through him at Blackpool.

If he's not good enough for Rangers, he certainly isn't good enough for Liverpool Football Club.

Offer him to Rangers now and they'll bite your arm off for him.

Ridiculous thing to say, Rangers missed out.
 
Aquilani played very well in the games he did play in the PL, not sure what you are basing that off.

Spearing - uhm, don't watch much Liverpool do you? Every game he puts in a heck of a shift and rarely plays poorly, a good performer.

Poulsen -will be sold.

Shelvey is what, 18/19? He will be loaned out this season.

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Most teams don't even register 25, think we only had 21 last year. And youngsters of the age of 20(maybe 19) and younger don't have to be registered. There is no worries on that front.

You do realize that is a Everton fan you are debating with. Every player you have/had is **** to him :P
 
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