people should lighten up, whats the point in having this section if we cant even debate. I think people should stop saying "this is gonna happen or people are gonna ***** and argue" it hasn't happened yet, when it does close the thread, I don't see the point in just posting comments saying how the OP shouldnt have posted this.
Personally I was shocked that Liverpool lost to Wigan yesterday, and they deserved to lose. I was very sure they would get 4th spot but the closer we get to the end of the season more holes are appearing in Rafa's "guarantee". Liverpool are not a bad team, I honestly dont think Man Utd's squad is much stronger it is just that they have the confidence, the work ethic and the mental state that is required to win trophies. Liverpool lost a couple of key players yes (Xabi Alonso, Arbeloa) and yeah Xabi Alonso is top class, it was bad man management that lead to the lad wanting to go to Madrid and I'm sure Rafa knows that.
Rafa has made mistakes, mainly in the transfer market. Why he splashed out on an injured player I have no idea, especially seing as they lost a key player in that position during the summer but it would be ludicrous if he got the sacked, I mean who is going to come in and do a better job?
Liverpool are in turmoil right now that cannot be denied and unless their players show some more drive and passion then I am beginning to believe they will not get into the top 4. Rafa needs to evoke a reaction out of his players and it seems he is struggling to do that.
Benayoun, Torres, and Gerrard all played against Wigan and usually when those 3 play Liverpool are very good but they were totally unimginative the other night. its worrying that they lost the game in the manner they did with those 3 players all fit (well relatively).
I still think Liverpool are very well equipped to finish in the top 4 it just remains to be seen if the players show hunger or drive to succeed. it doesn't get much better with the fact gerrard is probably going to get a ban for his "v" gesture during the wigan game.
Personally I was shocked that Liverpool lost to Wigan yesterday, and they deserved to lose. I was very sure they would get 4th spot but the closer we get to the end of the season more holes are appearing in Rafa's "guarantee". Liverpool are not a bad team, I honestly dont think Man Utd's squad is much stronger it is just that they have the confidence, the work ethic and the mental state that is required to win trophies. Liverpool lost a couple of key players yes (Xabi Alonso, Arbeloa) and yeah Xabi Alonso is top class, it was bad man management that lead to the lad wanting to go to Madrid and I'm sure Rafa knows that.
Rafa has made mistakes, mainly in the transfer market. Why he splashed out on an injured player I have no idea, especially seing as they lost a key player in that position during the summer but it would be ludicrous if he got the sacked, I mean who is going to come in and do a better job?
Liverpool are in turmoil right now that cannot be denied and unless their players show some more drive and passion then I am beginning to believe they will not get into the top 4. Rafa needs to evoke a reaction out of his players and it seems he is struggling to do that.
Benayoun, Torres, and Gerrard all played against Wigan and usually when those 3 play Liverpool are very good but they were totally unimginative the other night. its worrying that they lost the game in the manner they did with those 3 players all fit (well relatively).
I still think Liverpool are very well equipped to finish in the top 4 it just remains to be seen if the players show hunger or drive to succeed. it doesn't get much better with the fact gerrard is probably going to get a ban for his "v" gesture during the wigan game.
just thought i'd be picky, 
