Mr Langvatn 6-2-2 Stonewall Attack (14.3.1)

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Mr Langvatn said:
As last year, I strongly disagree about the not fluid thing. I don't think the players follow the tactic very well when it's any less than 100%. Setting up a good variety of friendly matches is very important to get ready for the season. But I will try in Italy and Spain soon to see for myself, perhaps it's not as effective there as in England.
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OK pal, I will start again, because there are really some awesome results...maybe were my opponents a bit too tough for very early pre season.
 
It's not working with Leeds either.I know they are not a top side but using the counter version I am struggling to score any goals.Don't understand why it's so weak really.21st in champ after 11 games and only scored 7.

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Will be testing this with Ajax on my "You Dont Win Anything With Kids"-save.. Will report back with the results after about 10 games
 
Radium22 said:
It's not working with Leeds either.I know they are not a top side but using the counter version I am struggling to score any goals.Don't understand why it's so weak really.21st in champ after 11 games and only scored 7.

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Personally i think attacking version is working lot lot better than the counter one but i just started a new savegame with it, need more games to have a proper pattern.
Counter for me worked quite bad, they wanted to fire me (Norwich) after 22 games.
 
remlnx said:
Personally i think attacking version is working lot lot better than the counter one but i just started a new savegame with it, need more games to have a proper pattern.
Counter for me worked quite bad, they wanted to fire me (Norwich) after 22 games.
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4th place in my Norwich save after 20 games :P That was with Counter. But sometimes the game can be a bit random, some people will win the EPL with lesser sides while others will struggle, based on their skill-set, but most of all their luck. Like stated earlier, the game is all about rolling dices.
 
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Wow, I misread the deadline for my school project (4000 words+appendix). It's due tomorrow rather than next Sunday! Ouch... I haven't even started... Cya Monday guys! (Unless I have died from stress)
 
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This has to be the most impressive tactic I have used since Patch 14.3. The results is unreal. Here is I managed Nurnberg in Bundesliga which is predicted at 15th, and I manage to finish in the top 4 qualify for the Champions League in the first season.

It seem like this tactic was made for this team since every position fit in so nicely, striker may need imrpove a bit but Josip Drmic is a beast. He carried the team away.

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Media Prediction: fighting for relegation

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End of 1st Season: Qualify for Champions League top 4. Only conceded 25 goals, the only team conceded less goal than Nurnberg is the champion Bayern Munich with 19 goals. Very impressive defensive performance

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Impressive win against Dortmund, shut down Lewandowski
 
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zeronofear said:
This has to be the most impressive tactic I have used since Patch 14.3. The results is unreal. Here is I managed Nurnberg in Bundesliga which is predicted at 15th, and I manage to finish in the top 4 qualify for the Champions League in the first season.

It seem like this tactic was made for this team since every position fit in so nicely, striker may need imrpove a bit but Josip Drmic is a beast. He carried the team away.

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Media Prediction: fighting for relegation

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End of 1st Season: Qualify for Champions League top 4. Only conceded 25 goals, the only team conceded less goal than Nurnberg is the champion Bayern Munich with 19 goals. Very impressive defensive performance

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Impressive win against Dortmund, shut down Lewandowski
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Using Counter version or attack version? Indeed impressive results
 
remlnx said:
Using Counter version or attack version? Indeed impressive results
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Since this is underdog team I use counter version. Balanced training, team work match training during the season.
Just sign some very cheap player to back up and loan Sascha Horvath

Not to mention I have managed the team to reach to semi final of German cup

The real reason i think it is success because of the morale, and the player fit in the position. Here is the squad

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Version 2 is EPIC EPIC EPIC. I can finally play as underdog again with this counter-attack tactic. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, BRO!
 
So, here are the results on my LLM (Lower League Managment) of the tactic.

Tactic Used: Mr. Langvatn 6-2-2 Stonewall Attack (the original one, not the V2)
Training used: General Training = Balanced High + Match Preparation = Teamwork (40% allow rest after match)
Team used: Boreham Woods - Skrill South


Tested over 20 league Matches.
I didnt used V2 attack because after couple tests, i feel the original one is more consistent
I didnt used Counter tactic because on another save it didnt worked well for me (but i know for some other users it works like a charm!)

Had to do some micromanagment between the 19/10/2013 and the 16/11/2013 because i had kinda a bad streak.
This means i had to give a team speech to raise the morale and also used to cricticise the strikers with "Speak about -> Warn Player -> Criticise recent form" then i used "You haven't been scoring many recently and i dont know how longer i can wait before i give someone else a go in the side".
As you see on screenshots it worked well and they started win again.

As conclusion: This tactic works well for Lower League Managment, even if the match engine is a dice roll with random results, the tactic made me enjoy the test with good football and even some fantastic play unexpected from a lower league team.
 
Which field dimentions to choose at home for best results ?
 
I've tried a few times on FM 14 to be successful with Leeds and used a few different tactics but all, for whatever reason, have not been successful. I used your amazing tactic on FM 13 so will look to try your tactic out again and see what kind of results I get :) I'm sure it will bring me success! (and if not it's probably my fault).
Do you think the tactic will work well with leeds? (I'd probably look to use the counter more since they're not one of the strongest teams).
 
PLaying with counter V2 with Man Utd, and it wont simply work!! realy enjoy the formation but conceding alot of goals, played 20 games and won 4, draw 5 and lost 11, playing with original squad.. wtf??!
 
Auchinleck said:
PLaying with counter V2 with Man Utd, and it wont simply work!! realy enjoy the formation but conceding alot of goals, played 20 games and won 4, draw 5 and lost 11, playing with original squad.. wtf??!
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Counter is for underdogs. so why on earth are you using it with manutd? use Attack v2!
 
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