Mr Langvatn FM16 Tactic Center

Kelevra said:
Now I have time and I want to try this tactic v5

Mr L., what kind of players do you advice ad the DM position?

recommend any player for that position? any ppm especially?

thanks
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PPM's can easily disrupt a formation and make it do things you dont want - so try and forget about those for a moment :)

recommended for the DM position - strong hard working good at defensive duties like you know a normal defensive midfielder would be - you should train defensive midfielder and then add the extra focus on the weakest area of your player - if 11 positioning train that extra.

I remember i had a talk with MRL who bought some very young talents - he bought CAMS who could be DM's and retrained them on the defensive midfielder schedule - by doing that he got dms with vision as well - but vision should not have first priority - its an addon.

Also wide midfielders - make sure they will be quick and be great crossers - the wide midfielders are the most important players in your team so should be the best players above the rest of the team - if you are Barca left midfielder = Neymar - right midfielder = Messi.

In defence I always recommend quick defenders that can jump and has decent mentality attributes especially concentrations and decisions - (Laporte/Zouma/Zule) types on lower levels you cant obviously get such - so get what comes closer.

Wingbacks - again quickness and crossing are extremely important - quickness great for both going forward and backward/defending - your wingbacks get often into situations where they cross the ball and this tactic loves that - crosses are really king in fm16 - in fm13 it sucked yikes lol

Strikers - get what comes close to the role - False 9 - Andre Silva - Suarez - Dybala - etc etc - vision quickness and finishing is key here I reckon.

Just remember the godforsaken wide mdifielders - its not obvious if you dont know it - these are the most important players and will be the ones that will make you or break you (refer back to the wide midfielder section above) :)

Training -

Fitness (put emphasis on the physical) Defensive positioning - between 50-30% match training I do 50% - average intensity - rest day before and after.

Hope this helps

Cheers
 
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Why are so few people ready to try MR L's tactics, even the latest one which tests superbly, but at the same time EVERYONE keeps trying every version of everything TFF puts out there, every single of his 863 tweaked versions? Curious.
 
Great tactic v5. Won premier league and champions league with Man Utd.
Champions i eliminated sporting than arsenal than bayern on semis and beat barcelona 5x2 in the final.
I know that play with manchester its not that hard but i had tried many tactics even with barcelona and real madrid and this is the first save that a win the champions league
 
shirajzl said:
Why are so few people ready to try MR L's tactics, even the latest one which tests superbly, but at the same time EVERYONE keeps trying every version of everything TFF puts out there, every single of his 863 tweaked versions? Curious.
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I haven't been actively advertising it, and I have also excluded my own tactics from the tactic test, as I wanted to give more focus to other tacticians. But yeah, the 4-4-2 Deep Sicilian Defense v5 is as good as you can get a tactic for FM16. To make something better would require too much work for too little gain. This is why I have stopped tweaking it.
 
Mr Langvatn said:
I haven't been actively advertising it, and I have also excluded my own tactics from the tactic test, as I wanted to give more focus to other tacticians. But yeah, the 4-4-2 Deep Sicilian Defense v5 is as good as you can get a tactic for FM16. To make something better would require too much work for too little gain. This is why I have stopped tweaking it.
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Honestly I think one of the reasons is because he gives you everything you need especially filters. I think a lot of people including myself struggle to choose between two players which are more suited for the tactic where as on tff he gives you the filters so you know what players you're looking for easily. The game is so complex that people want to spend as little time do some of the more in depths but and getting on with choosing from 5 players and then playing games.

Also every tweak he promises slightly better version (it appears to go round in circles really) so he builds hype.
 
SchMike said:
Honestly I think one of the reasons is because he gives you everything you need especially filters. I think a lot of people including myself struggle to choose between two players which are more suited for the tactic where as on tff he gives you the filters so you know what players you're looking for easily. The game is so complex that people want to spend as little time do some of the more in depths but and getting on with choosing from 5 players and then playing games.

Also every tweak he promises slightly better version (it appears to go round in circles really) so he builds hype.
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But if you don't pick players yourself, what do you do while playing the game? Pressing continue?

I know TFF keeps trying to improve his tactics, but not every tweak actually improves things, it's sometimes quite the contrary. With that knowledge it's really difficult to commit to his tactic(s) and follow his work when you're supposed to change every few days without knowing whether it would work or not.
 
Sorry for double post, but here's a question for Mr L.

What happens when you turn DMs into CMs? I'm watching the team with your tactic and transition between defence and offence doesn't exist, one of the back four +two DMs just hoof the ball up front hoping someone's going to control it.
I'm wondering if moving players to make a flat four would fix that, but then it would probably destabilize defence with no cover for wingbacks.
 
shirajzl said:
Why are so few people ready to try MR L's tactics, even the latest one which tests superbly, but at the same time EVERYONE keeps trying every version of everything TFF puts out there, every single of his 863 tweaked versions? Curious.
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Maybe people dosn't want to play that kind of formation with 2 DMs - Maybe everyone dosn't choose the tactic to use, then which club to start a save with, there could be alot of reason - personally i might test it when i end in a club there have the players needed, **** i've had enough trouble getting a good replacement for Marchioso(spelling?) in a Juventus save fielding only 1 DM. Another reason for me is that I'm not only playing with the most famous and rich clubs in Europe, a save with a small club dosn't offer the same oppertunities to buy what you need, and sell your spare star players quite easy, which leads to the need to sometimes choose a fitting tactic, instead of fitting the team to the tactic :)
 
So people in these threads make their own filters now? - excuse me is it me or are the world turning insane - jesus!!!!!
The game provide you with filters its right under your nose - so why on earth do you need a multiple tweakster to tell you what player you need?

look at the positions - train accordingly - that's real easy - fm16 is role based and much better at it than ever before. Nomatter what team instructions you use - it doesnt change the role - now if the role is not fantastic enough for you change. Knowing MRL he have used countless hours perfecting his tactic and wouldn't quit trying before he knew that now it has reached the upper percentage of a great tactic.

One more thing - players are the most important thing - more important than tactics - if you expect to do well with media prediction 24 and have 11 morons at your disposal expect to lose.

about the tweakster - or shall i say views junky - oh I forgot what I was going to say - that saids it all dosn't it.

Just for you guys ;)
 
shirajzl said:
But if you don't pick players yourself, what do you do while playing the game? Pressing continue?

I know TFF keeps trying to improve his tactics, but not every tweak actually improves things, it's sometimes quite the contrary. With that knowledge it's really difficult to commit to his tactic(s) and follow his work when you're supposed to change every few days without knowing whether it would work or not.
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i agree the tweaks he does don't always make the tactic better. The filters gives the optimum players in his opinion for the tactic and yield stronger results than the in built filters for the game which tend to have so many different attributes to compare against you end up with a number of players for a position but the base is 10/11 across the board for championship players which in turn means the players aren't as good as TFF specialist filters for his tactic. What this does is speed up the process of playing the game for people with less time on their hands who want to get through a few seasons before the next FM is out.
 
jesaustralia said:
So people in these threads make their own filters now? - excuse me is it me or are the world turning insane - jesus!!!!!
The game provide you with filters its right under your nose - so why on earth do you need a multiple tweakster to tell you what player you need?

look at the positions - train accordingly - that's real easy - fm16 is role based and much better at it than ever before. Nomatter what team instructions you use - it doesnt change the role - now if the role is not fantastic enough for you change. Knowing MRL he have used countless hours perfecting his tactic and wouldn't quit trying before he knew that now it has reached the upper percentage of a great tactic.

One more thing - players are the most important thing - more important than tactics - if you expect to do well with media prediction 24 and have 11 morons at your disposal expect to lose.

about the tweakster - or shall i say views junky - oh I forgot what I was going to say - that saids it all dosn't it.

Just for you guys ;)
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As I said in my other comment the filters TFF provides are most specialist to this tactic only looking at the attributes he thinks are important for the tactic and not the more broad range the in game ones give. so if you use in game filters you're more likely to end up with 11 morons than using more specialist filters.
 
SchMike said:
As I said in my other comment the filters TFF provides are most specialist to this tactic only looking at the attributes he thinks are important for the tactic and not the more broad range the in game ones give. so if you use in game filters you're more likely to end up with 11 morons than using more specialist filters.
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I dissagree this is not fm13 and if so I feel cheated by the creators lol - this time it looks good when training for the role though.
I just stole views from myself by writing this doh!!! ;)
 
First try using Deep Sicilian V5 tweaked with Sheff Wed

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Greetings

I'm using the 442 Deep Sicilian Defence V5 at Sporting Lisbon and i have some feedback to give. Overall i like the tactic but i'm feeling that my strikers do not participate much on the attack. My WM are crossing to the opposite WM and are scoring more goals than the F9's... Which is sad because Slimani have 18 finishing and 19 header and only have 2 goals in the league xD
 
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Arel said:
I'm using the 442 Deep Sicilian Defence V5 at Sporting Lisbon and i have some feedback to give. Overall i like the tactic but i'm feeling that my strikers do not participate much on the attack. My WM are crossing to the opposite WM and are scoring more goals than the F9's... Which is sad because Slimani have 18 finishing and 19 header and only have 2 goals in the league xD
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TM tries station for 2
 
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