Mr Langvatn's Tactic Center for FM17

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Mr Langvatn said:
By the way guys, there are now 8x 5-star tactics (same level as watford v2) in our testing table! A lot of great tactics were discovered yesterday! :)

Check out all the new results here
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Wow! Updated SPFC TweakPoachers with 417 goals, along with a respectable 247 conceded. That's excelent!
 
Would it be possible to include # of red and yellow cards? In a next version may be?
 
libo1949 said:
Would it be possible to include # of red and yellow cards? In a next version may be?
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Such[FONT=arial, sans, sans-serif] things won't be possible until Sigames fix the bug in the game with the export function[/FONT]
 
jesaustralia said:
A tactic with a team who has a worrying team cohesion or blending well performs differently from a tactic that is optimized to extremely strong understanding team blend - just like using 2 different tactics - you don't get a true reflection of a tactics ability if the team isn't managed becourse the difference is huge - so the results you and your team presents to the public becomes information that bury the tactics that performs less in your tests while containing a low team cohesion - however in a test where the man management has been taken serious with a clue - those formerly failed tactics would most likely outshine the best unmanaged tactics - so it would all be turned upside down - so in other words you don't do anything but bad publicity towards tactics that actually would be amazing for people to play with.

About corrupt - you only test tactics that either have a mr langvatn stamp on it or if people have signed up for it to be tested mainly - that makes your whole testing idea corrupt - theirs alot of tactics out their that deserves attention and they are not getting it becourse they haven't signed up for it - honestly pal

I write the truth - that can be in your thread or anyone elses - bad blood their isn't any just truth and expertise
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Really? This comes from a guy where he streams on twitch a select brand of 'jesusaustralia' stamped tactics...
 
I'm currently using the wheels of fire 3412 at home and first 3412 away working well neither of which other than being tested by request by Mr L testing setup have anything to do with Mr L....Funny that
 
As I said - I write the truth - that can be in your thread or anyone elses - readers can take it any way they want - that you don't like that I share my honest and true opinion is not my problem - people deserves to know that failed tactics can actually be better than successful tactics in your tests when managed - and then you can say a successful tactic tested will also blossom when managed - yes that's true - but their are failed tactics that will act like they are the best tactics when managed - don't be surprised if they are better than the best.

I speak from personal experience management is king and you currently don't treat the game like that - Which turn it all in to a bullying party where good tactics get bad results and look bad to the public which in turn means these tactics and their creators can rot - wow that's really fair or maybe not.




 
quickzombie said:
Really? This comes from a guy where he streams on twitch a select brand of 'jesusaustralia' stamped tactics...
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no I stream various tactics not only my own - if a tactic is intriguing I give it a fair run - unfortunately I'm not feeling it currently so I'm not streaming - weartibus is not a jesaustralia brand - its not even a brand to be honest - its a place like a website where we sometimes stream - its a place where I can collect my things and other peoples things for you people who has an interest - and sometimes hangout with you - so whats with the bullying can't stomach the truth?
 
You do know this is a game right. People make tactics and win or lose it's not worth getting so worked up about. I've not seen anyone complain about a tactics result so far and if it was a problem I'm sure Mr L wouldn't have an issue taking the results off for that tactic.
First you say he's cherry picking tactics to test and now you're saying when people request a tactic to be tested it's some kind of personal attack on them. If you request a tactic test you should be prepared for the result.

This is a guide for god sake not a personal attack on whoever's tactical skills.

jesaustralia said:
As I said - I write the truth - that can be in your thread or anyone elses - readers can take it any way they want - that you don't like that I share my honest and true opinion is not my problem - people deserves to know that failed tactics can actually be better than successful tactics in your tests when managed - and then you can say a successful tactic tested will also blossom when managed - yes that's true - but their are failed tactics that will act like they are the best tactics when managed - don't be surprised if they are better than the best.

I speak from personal experience management is king and you currently don't treat the game like that - Which turn it all in to a bullying party where good tactics get bad results and look bad to the public which in turn means these tactics and their creators can rot - wow that's really fair or maybe not.
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but this is exactly the same as what Mr L is doing just by a different medium so you take issue with him but not when you do a similar thing

Mr L tests various tactics not only his own - if a tactic is intriguing or is requested he gives it a fair run - fortunately he is feeling it currently so he is testing - testing is not a Mr L brand - its not even a brand to be honest - its a website where he tests - its a place where he can collect his things and other peoples things for you people who has an interest - and sometimes hangout with you - so whats with the negativity can't stomach the truth?

jesaustralia said:
no I stream various tactics not only my own - if a tactic is intriguing I give it a fair run - unfortunately I'm not feeling it currently so I'm not streaming - weartibus is not a jesaustralia brand - its not even a brand to be honest - its a place like a website where we sometimes stream - its a place where I can collect my things and other peoples things for you people who has an interest - and sometimes hangout with you - so whats with the bullying can't stomach the truth?
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quickzombie said:
You do know this is a game right. People make tactics and win or lose it's not worth getting so worked up about. I've not seen anyone complain about a tactics result so far and if it was a problem I'm sure Mr L wouldn't have an issue taking the results off for that tactic.
First you say he's cherry picking tactics to test and now you're saying when people request a tactic to be tested it's some kind of personal attack on them. If you request a tactic test you should be prepared for the result.

This is a guide for god sake not a personal attack on whoever's tactical skills.
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I have a tactic that has been tested that hasn't even got a thread :)

It was added to a post by request of 1 person.

It did terrible in the test and has no info on how to use it yet when I play it I win. And when my mate uses it he wins...

I'm not picking any sides here as I didn't have a request in for a test so can add to not all tested are requested to be but not all poor performing tested tactics are bad.
 
i saw many tactics here and many tweaks, but there's one tactic in this forum that went unnoticed.. it´s a very good tactic, try pls. i think that the creator did an excellent job. loss 6 games and draw 3. in the 3 draws and 3 losses i rotate all team, and in europe league until the 2nd game against monaco my team was always the players that don't play in 1st 11.. i will leave here some ss
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tactic is tenacious testers needed (don't know how to upload here)
 
Anyway Mr L is there any plans for combination tests for example if a tactic really did well at home combined with a tactic that cleaned up away? I guess we can get that from the tables seperately but I just wondered if this was a possibility if you had tactics for home and away and wanted them testing as a set.
 
but did you take it as a personal attack on you when it was tested?? That's why I have said all along this is only a guide not 100% true representation of what would happen. If it has caused an issue I'm sure that wasn't the intent and could be removed and if tested with the accompanying information it would have been really good.

PS meant to add I love your tactic and it's used for my get Rochdale in europe save

callamity said:
I have a tactic that has been tested that hasn't even got a thread :)

It was added to a post by request of 1 person.

It did terrible in the test and has no info on how to use it yet when I play it I win. And when my mate uses it he wins...

I'm not picking any sides here as I didn't have a request in for a test so can add to not all tested are requested to be but not all poor performing tested tactics are bad.
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Why not just inform Mr L if you do not wish any of your tactic to be tested unless you request it yourself.
 
quickzombie said:
but did you take it as a personal attack on you when it was tested?? That's why I have said all along this is only a guide not 100% true representation of what would happen. If it has caused an issue I'm sure that wasn't the intent and could be removed and if tested with the accompanying information it would have been really good.

PS meant to add I love your tactic and it's used for my get Rochdale in europe save
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No I didn't take it as an attack on anyone, that's why I didn't go to mrl and say anything. I was just referencing my own stuff to support both sides. That tactics aren't picked because of request and also that not all poor performing tactics in the test are bad.

I've always supported anyone who tests anything in their own way as even though there is never going to be a better test than actual playing it's impossible to replicate a proper play style and do enough testing to provide results that represent that.

I'm just trying to give a fair opinion to try to bring understanding to both sides of the argument :)

Mr l has always done good by me and so has jes

I have time for both guys :)
 
I agree but as you said your tactic was requested...not by you and incorreclty, given as with the full info I use your tactic myself and enjoy it. What I don't agree with is when someone clearly doesn't see the worth of something (not an issue we are all different) then proceeds to where people do enjoy it and persists in calling the person into question there rather than offer constructive feedback
 
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Guys, the number one tactic, or the top 10 tactics in our test are not "crowned" as the best tactics. They are likely to be among the best underdog/mid-team tactics in 17.2.1. In addition, it is impossible for us to say which one of lets say the top 50 tactics in our test is the best one for YOUR team. The top ones in our test may be the most versatile ones, but we would need league specific testing to get any information about which tactics work best in that and that league. This is something we may do for FM18 (or earlier, dunno yet). Furthermore, teams are different also, not only judging by the players they have available, but teams have hidden stats in the game, which determines how good a team is at different tactical things. Even staff plays a role in which tactics work best for the team.

It is and never has been our intention to say that this and this tactic is bad because it didn't finish in the top 30 of our test. We have never said that, quite the opposite really. We only want to find the best plug & play tactics for underdog/mid-table teams. The tactics that are most likely to grant success for most players. For players who really enjoy micromanagement of every aspect of the game there probably are better choices than the top ones in our test.

Even if we had all the time in the world, to test every tactic as if we played a personal save, with full micro management, it would be a bad test, because then it would become subjective.
 
I see good reviews on TFF's new tactic, "Beast". Adding it to test list :)
 
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