Mr Langvatn's Tactic Thread (Updated for 13.3.3)

Hi Mr L

I'm still using your 3-6-1 Sicilian Defense and rock with my Coventry side but wanted to try your 2-5-3 Angels V2 with a stronger team. I have chosen Liverpool and i just wanted some advice on the player types needed and what to do with the players i have. Is it worth re training Sterling, Assaidi and Suso from wingers to forwards and are players like Sturridge any good for this formation. Do you suggest any players that would fit.
 
MANUMAD said:
Started a new save yesterday as Velez (Argentina) and Al Ahly (Egypt), both decent but not great teams.

Using your sicilian defence and 4141 rocj classic plus cookiemaker's I double dare you counter attack tactic Ive played 3 matches each (Velez's two of these were against much better opponents) and comfortably beat everybody.


What Ive done is Ive started 4141 against better opponents and cicilian defence against lesser and when I went in front, thinking that the other team would increase attack intensity I switched to cookiemaker's tactics.

So the tactics look quite great - only problem is that this is not the way I like to play FM (ie just letting a brill tactic do all the work and me sit there admiring it) so I may get bored with them but the tactics do what it says on the tin so ONCE AGAIN YOU HAVE PROVEN YOURSELF TO BE A TACTICAL GOD ON FM!

Only tactic of yours I cant get to work is Spin the Wheel.
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Witch tactic you use from the cookiemaker's?
 
JxChicharito said:
Alright, gonna try the 3-6-1 and rock on away games against bigger opponents. Btw, regard to rock, is the 4-1-4-1 ROCK or ROCK CLASSIC? Thx
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They are pretty much the same tactic :) However, in my tactic test, the rock classic did get a tad better result. But it could be due to randomness :P
 
thorn19uk said:
Hi Mr L

I'm still using your 3-6-1 Sicilian Defense and rock with my Coventry side but wanted to try your 2-5-3 Angels V2 with a stronger team. I have chosen Liverpool and i just wanted some advice on the player types needed and what to do with the players i have. Is it worth re training Sterling, Assaidi and Suso from wingers to forwards and are players like Sturridge any good for this formation. Do you suggest any players that would fit.
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I think it's better to sell them, and get advanced forward type players :) I'm not the guy to talk to about transfers really, I don't do that much :) I'm mostly just testing tactics in current squads :)
 
Mr Langvatn said:
I think it's better to sell them, and get advanced forward type players :) I'm not the guy to talk to about transfers really, I don't do that much :) I'm mostly just testing tactics in current squads :)
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Ok thanks, will keep you posted on how it goes
 
I have now fixed the defense and some other small tweaks to the 4-4-2 I'm working on. Any help testing it with sub-top or top teams? :)
 
Mr Langvatn said:
I have now fixed the defense and some other small tweaks to the 4-4-2 I'm working on. Any help testing it with sub-top or top teams? :)
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I've tried this tactic with Barcelona for 8 matches and 7W-1D G 34 CG only 3. It's more successful and I admire it but opponents find lots of goal chances. Maybe fullbacks and wingers could be more effective in offensive plays. and statistics aren't perfect from time to time but somehow it provides winning matches. Thanks for this tactic Sir but I want to this tactic with classic version.
 
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mr L I know u can't really do a 4-2-3-1 cause its unpredictable, but any chance of a 4-1-2-2-1 ????? I like the rock but doesn't get best out of ya hazards and tonal do etc... thanks
 
Dantes7 said:
I've tried this tactic with Barcelona for 8 matches and 7W-1D G 34 CG only 3. It's more successful and I admire it but opponents find lots of goal chances. Maybe fullbacks and wingers could be more effective in offensive plays. and statistics aren't perfect from time to time but somehow it provides winning matches. Thanks for this tactic Sir but I want to this tactic with classic version.
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Statistics don't mean everything. Often, in these counter-attacking tactics, the more the opponent pushes you, the more chances you get. So them having 0/0 isn't always a good thing. When testing the tactics, just look at the final result, not the statistics :) scoring 34 goals in 8 matches is really good :)
 
evo87 said:
mr L I know u can't really do a 4-2-3-1 cause its unpredictable, but any chance of a 4-1-2-2-1 ????? I like the rock but doesn't get best out of ya hazards and tonal do etc... thanks
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The reason the rock works so good is because the wingers are helping the fullbacks so well. They don't help in the back whatever settings you put them on in AMR/AML position. This is why it will never become as stable.

But I'll see if I can use the 4-4-2 as a base for it since the midfielders are a bit different there.

Edit: It would be something like this (works decent). I won't be spending any time on it though, as I don't like AMR/AML in this patch.
 
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I'm happy enough with the 4-4-2 now. Uploaded to the front page. Not much work had to be done, used the 2-5-3 Angels V2 as a base for it, and it works nice :) It's not as good as the 2-5-3, but it's a nice alternative for those who just can't get the players needed for the 2-5-3.
 
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Mr Langvatn said:
The reason the rock works so good is because the wingers are helping the fullbacks so well. They don't help in the back whatever settings you put them on in AMR/AML position. This is why it will never become as stable.

But I'll see if I can use the 4-4-2 as a base for it since the midfielders are a bit different there.

Edit: It would be something like this (works decent). I won't be spending any time on it though, as I don't like AMR/AML in this patch.
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ok thanks I'll give it a whirl
 
I did not score many goals from corner,no more than 10,I am Fulham,a sub-top team in the 3rd season.
 
hispline said:
I did not score many goals from corner,no more than 10,I am Fulham,a sub-top team in the 3rd season.
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It varies, highest I've had was 25 corner goals (Man Utd). With Bayern I'm averaging on 15-20. If you say you have a sub-top team with Fulham in the 3rd season, your team gel must be very low. Next season (4th), don't buy more players for the first team, then you will see a big improvement.
 
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