My 4231 with Spurs

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Hello, been getting mighty frustrated with my tactics in this version of the game. Seriously must've tried about 10 different games so far. Finally decided that I'd scale back my player instructions and watch what happened. So far, so good. 3 draws and 1 defeat in 20 competitive games.

(sorry if the images are big, I'm on a 27" screen so they seem normal to me)

Looks quite similar to the Klopp tactic, but it never worked for me despite people getting good results with it.

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As you can see, I've got two Ball Winning Midfielders. I had originally envisaged a Box To Box midfielder in there but it just didn't work as I'd hoped and he never helped out in the opposition half as much as the supporting BWM does. Schmelzer seems to get forward a lot more than Walker does and that may have something to do with the extra space on the left side of the pitch when Dembele goes forward. He's chipped in with a fair few key passes and his average tackles per game is higher than my two CB's. Only Sandro beats him.

I had originally set the IF's to support but they weren't really helping out in the final 3rd as much as they are now.

I think everything else positionally works well for my team but I'd try and sign attacking/midfield players that have good technical qualities (passing, first touch, technique) as well as good off the ball movement and creativity(where possible). Make sure your wing backs have pace and stamina. Your CB's just need to be good tackling, strong, reliable CB's. I've rotated my team for Europa League games (scraped through by the skin of my teeth!) and they've performed well.

I've only signed Schmelzer, Candreva and Damiao.

Adebayor and Friedel were my main departures.

Obviously, this may or may not work for your team but if someone could give it a go and let me know how things work out, that'd be good. It does play some good football and we've somehow managed to convert out CCC's.

Training
Pre Season: until fluid. This works and had me about 85% by season start
Main Focus - Team Cohesion
Intensity - Very High
Scheduling - All the way left
No resting before or after games

Once Fluid:
Main Focus - Balanced
Intensity - Average
Scheduling - 30% (two clicks from the left)
Allow resting after match

Match Prep:
Att Movement for home games
Def Positioning for away games
If you're leaky from Set Pieces, go for Def Set Pieces for a few weeks.

Results: (note the 7 game clean sheet streak)
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3-1 vs Arsenal
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3-0 vs Chelsea
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4-0 vs PAOK
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EDIT:

Teamtalks:
I'm using Raikan's guide from 2013 and it seems to be working well.

OI:
Hire an assistant manager with good Tactical Coaching and Tactical Knowledge and get him to assign Opposition Instructions. If he has decent defending attribute, that would be good.

EDIT:
Just played Fulham away from home winning 4-0. Some pictures of the stats from that game. You get a better idea of how Dembele (no 19) and Sandro (no 6) operate in midfield. Sandro is almost like a defensive midfielder/anchor man, sitting deep while Dembele is more like.. well, an attacking sweeper I guess. Gives us a bit of a 5/5 formation. Stretches the play across the 18 yard box. 20 game unbeaten run has now been achieved.
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Ah, you meant this. Sorry

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Damiao has 7 goals from 8 appearance. Dembele has 5, Lamela 4, Dawson 4, Townsend 4, Chadli is on 3.
 
OP Updated again with more stats/info
 
any more success with your tactic eg: wins over big teams, cups, etc? I intend on using it with spurs as well
 
I went through a little bad spell because of injuries. I played 9, won 3, drew 4 and lost 2 out of 9 games. 2 of those draws were in the cup and there was a loss in the FA cup and the league. Still second, 4 points behind Man City (64pts) and 11 ahead of 3rd place Chelsea.

Soldado is on 21 goals in 25 games.
Damiao is on 16 from 17 starts.

Other scorers.

Townsend 9
Lamela 8
Dawson 6
Dembele 5
Lennon 5

It's still going well, I've just not had much chance to get playing the game this week because of some DIY at my girlfriends house. If anyone is using this, I'd really like to know how you're getting on.
 
i have started a spurs save and used this tactic, worked a treat! im going to start up an everton save and try it out on them, once i get to january ill start a new one possibly with Southampton or one team tipped for relegation and keep you posted :)
 
Cool, I just had a 10 game winning streak. Damiao has now scored over 20 goals and has only featured in the cup games.
 
I'll give it a go. I used the Klops 4231 and came 6th first season won the league cup and semis in fa and euro cup. was a good tactic but had something missing and cant put my finger on it. i'll try this one out for my second spurs season
 
must say with the spurs save im doing, i do struggle against the top 4 teams, only beat liverpool once that was an own goal, my strikers dont really get many goals in the league but in the europe league they are bossing, any tips for the bigger teams?
 
I haven't changed anything for the big games. In a strange twist, Liverpool beat me, but I've beaten Arsenal, Chelsea (twice) and Man City.

If someone is playing rubbish, get them off. Eriksen/Lamela can have duff games and subbing them off usually brings a positive change. I've been rotating my squad a fair bit of late. I've also had a couple of long term injuries which have forced me to bring Capoue into the BWM support role and Chiriches into the first 11.

I'm gonna try and finish this league tonight and post up my end of season table. Only 6 league games to go.

EDIT: Soldado is also the league top scorer. I trained him to Move Into Channels which may have helped him a bit
 
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Just started with liverpool.
Going okay atm :) just have to learn the taktik 100%
 
Just started with liverpool.
Going okay atm :) just have to learn the taktik 100%

I've not tried it with Liverpool yet(I'm a Liverpool fan), I'd suggest getting a good IF to play on the right hand side though. Suarez could play on the left.

I don't think they have the budget or players unfortunately. Let me know how it goes :)
 
ill give that ago with him then and the same for damiao, i do love this tactic though you get so much domination, possession and chances aslong as im winning im not bothered who scores, i think on this fm ill have to accept goals get spread out unless your training tip works out, its a great tactic, well done!
 
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