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TACTICS HAVE BEEN UPDATED




CHANGES :

- the movement settings of AML/AMR positions were tweaked








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TACTICS HAVE BEEN UPDATED




CHANGES FOR THE 4231 TACTIC:

- MCL position was moved to DMCL position, the role, the duty and PIs were tweaked

- the passing settings of AML/AMR positions were tweaked

- the shooting settings of AML/AMR/STC positions were tweaked







CHANGES FOR THE 433 TACTIC:

- the role, the duty and PIs of DM position were tweaked

- the passing settings of AML/AMR positions were tweaked

- the shooting settings of AML/AMR/STC position were tweaked
 
TTF, why don't you make the striker score?
I don't know, but all my saves with Paragon, my strikers are null.
 
Hey, guys.

Does anyone have the Balanced V3 version of Paragon?

Thanks.
 
Paragon(the v1 with CM-D which is better than DM-S) is more stable in defense than Ultimate but Ultimate in scoring goals much better
 
Excellent tactic, the defence is incredible. Only issue is the strikers score pretty weak amounts. Sturridge with 5 in 21, Benteke wit 2 in 18, Ings with 1 in 10. Managed to nab Morata who is a perfect striker to suit the tactic according to the filters and he currently has 2 in 12
 

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Guys, here are tweaked versions of Paragon tactics that show about 20-30% better results.

The only difference from the original tactics is the right Inside Forward was moved to MR position, given Wide Midfielder role and the Wide Midfielder role was tweaked into Inside Forward.

I would uploaded these versions and removed the old versions long time ago but there was some issue that stopped me and I still haven't solved this yet, the issue is when I use Instant Result with these tactics then sometimes the assistant manager change the role of MR position to "Wide Playmaker" and it often happened when I use a left footed player at MR position but the thing is that for these tactics you need a left footed player for MR position, also, I've been noticing if I use a right footed player at MR position then the assistant manager rarely change the MR position to "Wide Playmaker".

The solution of the issues might be to use a right footed player at MR position that also has "Fairly Strong/Strong" rating for the left foot when you use "Instant Result" to play matches.












AML should be right footed.

MR should be left footed or have at least "Fairly Strong/Strong" for the left foot.



"PARAGON ( 4-2-3-1 ) TACTIC: MCR (Box To Box ) should be right footed or he should have at least "Fairly Strong/Strong" rating for the right foot, if you have a left footed player for MCR ( Box To Box ) position you can “mirror” the tactic and drag the Box To Box Midfielder to MCL slot and drag CM (Defend) to MCR slot"


"PARAGON ( 4-3-3 ) TACTIC: MCR should be right footed or he should have at least "Fairly Strong/Strong" rating for the right foot, MCL should be left footed or he should have at least "Fairly Strong/Strong" rating for the left foot"


*** PARAGON ( 4-2-3-1 + Wide Midfielder ) ***

DOWNLOAD THE TACTIC -->TFF PARAGON ( 4-2-3-1 + WM ) V1

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*** PARAGON ( 4-3-3 + Wide Midfielder ) ***

DOWNLOAD THE TACTIC -->TFF PARAGON ( 4-3-3 + WM ) V1

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TFF, if you get bored and want a new tactical project, you should try make a 3-4-3 similar to brazil of 2002

3 cb's, 2 fb's/wb's, 2 cm's, then with the striker you can have AMR/AML or two SS or two strikers on the side of him

i think it could be a good success in this ME
 
TFF, if you get bored and want a new tactical project, you should try make a 3-4-3 similar to brazil of 2002

3 cb's, 2 fb's/wb's, 2 cm's, then with the striker you can have AMR/AML or two SS or two strikers on the side of him

i think it could be a good success in this ME


Mate, I've tried 3 central defenders formations, probably, with all possible configurations the midfield and attack zone and they performed for me nowhere near than the last version of Paragon tactic with WM. :S

Heh, I upload here only 5% of all tactics that I heavily tested :) and if I haven't been uploading many "3 Central Defender" formations or "Diamond" formations this year then it doesn't mean that I haven't tried them, I tested all of them very heavily and they all showed very poor performance. :S
 

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Guys, here are tweaked versions of Paragon tactics that show about 20-30% better results.

The only difference from the original tactics is the right Inside Forward was moved to MR position, given Wide Midfielder role and the Wide Midfielder role was tweaked into Inside Forward.

I would uploaded these versions and removed the old versions long time ago but there was some issue that stopped me and I still haven't solved this yet, the issue is when I use Instant Result with these tactics then sometimes the assistant manager change the role of MR position to "Wide Playmaker" and it often happened when I use a left footed player at MR position but the thing is that for these tactics you need a left footed player for MR position, also, I've been noticing if I use a right footed player at MR position then the assistant manager rarely change the MR position to "Wide Playmaker".

The solution of the issues might be to use a right footed player at MR position that also has "Fairly Strong/Strong" rating for the left foot when you use "Instant Result" to play matches.










Hi tff

Is the only issue with the latest update only for instant result. I always play the matches, no problems there, right?

Thanks
 
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Hi tff

Is the only issue with the latest update only for instant result. I always play the matches, no problems there, right?

Thanks


Hey,

Yes, if you don't use "Instant Result" then go for the Wide Midfielders versions without thinking...

But If you use "Instant Result" then as I said there's some kind of solution of the issue and it's using a right footed player at MR position that also has "Fairly Strong/Strong" rating for the left foot.

In my current save where I play only with "Instant Result" all matches I built my team only around right footed players for AML/MR positions but some of them also has "Fairly Strong/Strong" rating for the left foot to play MR position.
 
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Hey,

Yes, if you don't use "Instant Result" then go for the Wide Midfielders versions without thinking...

But If you use "Instant Result" then as I said there's some kind of solution of the issue and it's using a right footed player at MR position that also has "Fairly Strong/Strong" rating for the left foot.

In my current save where I play only with "Instant Result" all matches I built my team only around right footed players for AML/MR positions but some of them also has "Fairly Strong/Strong" rating for the left foot to play MR position.

Hi TFF !
Do you use IR or simulation ? Do you think there is a big difference between them ?
Thanks !
 
TFF , sorry , but I do not get it right . I play every game , and never use the immediate result , then the version that I use is the 4-3-3 v3 and 4-2-3-1 v3?
 
Tff can i use a mirror virsion of the new wide midfield tactic so i mean put left inside forward to wide mid and right midfielder to inside forward
 
Hi TFF !
Do you use IR or simulation ? Do you think there is a big difference between them ?
Thanks !

Mate, I've tried both "Instant Result" and "Simulate Result" and got the issue in both case.

Btw, SI never planned to make 2 different tools and "Instant Result" or "Simulate Result" is just an outdated peace of code that skin makers brought to live for us to use "Instant Result" thing in the full game mode and only God knows which of them is outdated(or maybe they both are outdated;)) and what other issue it has.

But it must be said that I also tried to use "Instant Result" in FM Touch mode and got the same issue so I can say for sure that the issue happens not because of there are some bugs in the "Instant Result" skin for the full game mode.


TFF , sorry , but I do not get it right . I play every game , and never use the immediate result , then the version that I use is the 4-3-3 v3 and 4-2-3-1 v3?

Use the Wide Midfielders versions.
 
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Tff can i use a mirror virsion of the new wide midfield tactic so i mean put left inside forward to wide mid and right midfielder to inside forward

Mate, you need to mirror the whole tactic(all positions), including all set pieces.
 
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