PARAGON !

[Tacticseeker]

TFF, if you get bored and want a new tactical project, you should try make a 3-4-3 similar to brazil of 2002

3 cb's, 2 fb's/wb's, 2 cm's, then with the striker you can have AMR/AML or two SS or two strikers on the side of him

i think it could be a good success in this ME

 

[TotalFootballFan9]

TFF, if you get bored and want a new tactical project, you should try make a 3-4-3 similar to brazil of 2002

3 cb's, 2 fb's/wb's, 2 cm's, then with the striker you can have AMR/AML or two SS or two strikers on the side of him

i think it could be a good success in this ME

Mate, I've tried 3 central defenders formations, probably, with all possible configurations the midfield and attack zone and they performed for me nowhere near than the last version of Paragon tactic with WM. :S

Heh, I upload here only 5% of all tactics that I heavily tested and if I haven't been uploading many "3 Central Defender" formations or "Diamond" formations this year then it doesn't mean that I haven't tried them, I tested all of them very heavily and they all showed very poor performance. :S

 

[rencamboot]

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Guys, here are tweaked versions of Paragon tactics that show about 20-30% better results.

The only difference from the original tactics is the right Inside Forward was moved to MR position, given Wide Midfielder role and the Wide Midfielder role was tweaked into Inside Forward.

I would uploaded these versions and removed the old versions long time ago but there was some issue that stopped me and I still haven't solved this yet, the issue is when I use Instant Result with these tactics then sometimes the assistant manager change the role of MR position to "Wide Playmaker" and it often happened when I use a left footed player at MR position but the thing is that for these tactics you need a left footed player for MR position, also, I've been noticing if I use a right footed player at MR position then the assistant manager rarely change the MR position to "Wide Playmaker".

The solution of the issues might be to use a right footed player at MR position that also has "Fairly Strong/Strong" rating for the left foot when you use "Instant Result" to play matches.







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Hi tff

Is the only issue with the latest update only for instant result. I always play the matches, no problems there, right?

Thanks

 

[fenerbahce38]

tactics didn't work on me why? the team Parma (version 4-2-3-1 v2)

 

[TotalFootballFan9]

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Hi tff

Is the only issue with the latest update only for instant result. I always play the matches, no problems there, right?

Thanks

Hey,

Yes, if you don't use "Instant Result" then go for the Wide Midfielders versions without thinking...

But If you use "Instant Result" then as I said there's some kind of solution of the issue and it's using a right footed player at MR position that also has "Fairly Strong/Strong" rating for the left foot.

In my current save where I play only with "Instant Result" all matches I built my team only around right footed players for AML/MR positions but some of them also has "Fairly Strong/Strong" rating for the left foot to play MR position.

 

[victorjol]

Hey,

Yes, if you don't use "Instant Result" then go for the Wide Midfielders versions without thinking...

But If you use "Instant Result" then as I said there's some kind of solution of the issue and it's using a right footed player at MR position that also has "Fairly Strong/Strong" rating for the left foot.

In my current save where I play only with "Instant Result" all matches I built my team only around right footed players for AML/MR positions but some of them also has "Fairly Strong/Strong" rating for the left foot to play MR position.

Hi TFF !
Do you use IR or simulation ? Do you think there is a big difference between them ?
Thanks !

 

[samuelobo]

TFF , sorry , but I do not get it right . I play every game , and never use the immediate result , then the version that I use is the 4-3-3 v3 and 4-2-3-1 v3?

 

[TotalFootballFan9]

Hi TFF !
Do you use IR or simulation ? Do you think there is a big difference between them ?
Thanks !

Mate, I've tried both "Instant Result" and "Simulate Result" and got the issue in both case.

Btw, SI never planned to make 2 different tools and "Instant Result" or "Simulate Result" is just an outdated peace of code that skin makers brought to live for us to use "Instant Result" thing in the full game mode and only God knows which of them is outdated(or maybe they both are outdated) and what other issue it has.

But it must be said that I also tried to use "Instant Result" in FM Touch mode and got the same issue so I can say for sure that the issue happens not because of there are some bugs in the "Instant Result" skin for the full game mode.

TFF , sorry , but I do not get it right . I play every game , and never use the immediate result , then the version that I use is the 4-3-3 v3 and 4-2-3-1 v3?

Use the Wide Midfielders versions.

 

[TotalFootballFan9]

Tff can i use a mirror virsion of the new wide midfield tactic so i mean put left inside forward to wide mid and right midfielder to inside forward

Mate, you need to mirror the whole tactic(all positions), including all set pieces.

 

[leartdushi]

TFF, what about individual training for the WM ?

 

[wkdsoul]

TFF, what about individual training for the WM ?

Depends on who you have, just the weakest part of his game. This is too vague you could have anybody in the game playing there.

 

[TotalFootballFan9]

TFF, what about individual training for the WM ?

Let's say that your player for MR position already has "Natural" rating for MR position so you don't need to improve his rating for MR position any further so you can use any training focus you like and in this case I recommend using "Inside Forward" training focus and additional training focus might be "Agility" if this attribute is low...

But if you need to improve the rating for MR position then the most suitable individual training focus that available for MR position is "Winger" and additional training focus might "Finishing", "Long Shots" or "Agility" if these attributes are low.










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*******


Guys, here are tweaked versions of Paragon tactics that show about 20-30% better results.

The only difference from the original tactics is the right Inside Forward was moved to MR position, given Wide Midfielder role and the Wide Midfielder role was tweaked into Inside Forward.

I would uploaded these versions and removed the old versions long time ago but there was some issue that stopped me and I still haven't solved this yet, the issue is when I use Instant Result with these tactics then sometimes the assistant manager change the role of MR position to "Wide Playmaker" and it often happened when I use a left footed player at MR position but the thing is that for these tactics you need a left footed player for MR position, also, I've been noticing if I use a right footed player at MR position then the assistant manager rarely change the MR position to "Wide Playmaker".

The solution of the issues might be to use a right footed player at MR position that also has "Fairly Strong/Strong" rating for the left foot when you use "Instant Result" to play matches.











AML should be right footed.

MR should be left footed or have at least "Fairly Strong/Strong" for the left foot.


"PARAGON ( 4-2-3-1 ) TACTIC: MCR (Box To Box ) should be right footed or he should have at least "Fairly Strong/Strong" rating for the right foot, if you have a left footed player for MCR ( Box To Box ) position you can “mirror” the tactic and drag the Box To Box Midfielder to MCL slot and drag CM (Defend) to MCR slot"


"PARAGON ( 4-3-3 ) TACTIC: MCR should be right footed or he should have at least "Fairly Strong/Strong" rating for the right foot, MCL should be left footed or he should have at least "Fairly Strong/Strong" rating for the left foot"


*** PARAGON ( 4-2-3-1 + Wide Midfielder ) ***

DOWNLOAD THE TACTIC -->TFF PARAGON ( 4-2-3-1 + WM ) V1

*** PARAGON ( 4-3-3 + Wide Midfielder ) ***

DOWNLOAD THE TACTIC -->TFF PARAGON ( 4-3-3 + WM ) V1

 

[TotalFootballFan9]

TFF if i move the BBM to left side and midfield defend to right side of the wide midefield tactic will i still have to mirror every position still.

when you mirror the 4-2-3-1 tactic here's what you should do:

1) move DM(S) to the right and BBM(S) to the left

2) move MR position up to AMR position

3) move AML position down to ML

4) set the same role/duty/PIs for ML position that MR position had

5) set the same role/duty/PIs for AMR position that AML position had

 

[tzahy]

 

[Eusebios]

tzahy, i have never saw a result from you with a defeat and i am in this forum since last year!

Every table you show is wins after wins, careers with for exemple maccabi, totenham, leicester, dortmund and now man utd with records of unbeaten seasons.

It is just strange you are the only one here with that kind of records no matter what team you play.

i dont care about it but you must be the greatest player of FM since i remember playing this kind of games that started im cm3!

So with this, i must say that even with a original 442 with no instructions you will continue to show us this kind of stats!

By the way congrats to TTF9 with is excellent work in trying to make a "perfect" tactic, even if i think that the last ones do not improve much results from that in my opinion was you best tactic this year ANNIHILATOR!

 

[Eusebios]

Enzo Perez aka Vardy aka How I Meet You Mother and probably other 1000 accounts is back!

You don't understand why tzahy doesn't have losses and I don't understand why do you post form different accounts? ^^)

Sorry mate but i don´t understant a word!

 

[tzahy]

tzahy, i have never saw a result from you with a defeat and i am in this forum since last year!

Every table you show is wins after wins, careers with for exemple maccabi, totenham, leicester, dortmund and now man utd with records of unbeaten seasons.

It is just strange you are the only one here with that kind of records no matter what team you play.

i dont care about it but you must be the greatest player of FM since i remember playing this kind of games that started im cm3!

So with this, i must say that even with a original 442 with no instructions you will continue to show us this kind of stats!

By the way congrats to TTF9 with is excellent work in trying to make a "perfect" tactic, even if i think that the last ones do not improve much results from that in my opinion was you best tactic this year ANNIHILATOR!

 

[How I Met Your Mother]

Enzo Perez aka Vardy aka How I Meet You Mother and probably other 1000 accounts is back!

You don't understand why tzahy doesn't have losses and I don't understand why do you post form different accounts? ^^)

Do you have any problem with Me Figo?
Did i ever spoke with you or do you even know me?

Do not bring my name here for your entertainment or problems with others!

 

[kamus122]

Looking for a top striker for these tactics who's scoring for everyone else ??

I didn't try with the new version, but no one works for me.

 

[fenerbahce38]

Hey

tactics didn't work on me why? the team Parma (version 4-2-3-1 v2)