Raikan007's Borussia Dortmund: Jurgen Klopp's Recreation tactic 13.3.3

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Great work and all, but from what I've seen from Dortmund they are more direct and counter attack a lot more.
 
I got fm this week and started using this tactic with man utd. It seems to be working but I have a big problem converting chances. I usually get about 20 shots at goal but less than 40% on target. I also have a big issue with injuries. Are there anything I can do to sort this. What shouts do you use if you need to score towards the end of the game?

what is your general training? I use average and balanced, is this ok?
 
I may have mentioned this in a previous post, but has anyone noticed how good this is on possession? Good passing, good possession. I think this is my new favourite tactic. The Madness Tactic is excellent, but this has a better style of play imo.
 
Just to add on to that, the way you set up your Dortmund is much more similar to the way they were set up with Kagawa, Sahin, Barrios. The current bunch of Reus, Gotze(before he went to Bayern), Gundogan play a much more direct style of football and counter attack much more.
 
You should read this Raikan and try to tweak it into the tactic, to make it more realistic :D.

BORUSSIA DORTMUND AND KLOPP'S GEGENPRESSING TACTIC

Without doubt, the huge success of Barcelona and the Spanish national side presented European and international football with a significant problem. The challenge has been to develop a tactical approach capable of triumphing over tiki-taka.

Let's consider Borussia Dortmund's solution. Their astute manager Jürgen Klopp studied the Barça style in great detail but, importantly, he didn't set out to imitate tiki-taka. Instead, he developed the gegenpressing style of play.

How Gegenpressing Works

Gegenpressing differs from Barcelona's approach of pressing teams as high up the pitch as possible by incorporating a defensive as well as attacking element, which involves the whole team pressing aggressively in unison. Gegenpressing is a highly-organised approach to regaining possession and minimising space for the opposition. Dortmund's opponents are rapidly closed down by well-rehearsed, co-ordinated pressing movements, often by two or more players, allied with intelligent positioning to restrict space for players to pass and move into. Klopp knows that possession of the ball without creating and taking goal-scoring opportunities means little. He also understands that for possession-based approaches like tiki-taka to be effective, players need space to pass and move in key areas, particularly the final third of the pitch.

The Dortmund manager has described gegenpressing as "the best playmaker in the world. The best moment to win the ball is immediately after your team just lost it. The opponent is still looking for orientation where to pass the ball." Once Dortmund have regained possession, the transition from defence to attack is organised and, potentially, explosive. But, although Klopp is renowned for his commitment to open attacking football, he is no 'one trick pony'. Gegenpressing does not mean playing the same way all the time. Dortmund can play a variety of styles and formations, all underpinned by the gegenpressing approach.

Against Real Madrid in the Champions League group stages this season, Madrid were allowed the majority of ball possession but the Dortmund players closely pressed Madrid players like Xabi Alonso to limit his ability to pass and bring others into the game. Klopp and his players did their homework to learn how to anticipate Madrid's play and successfully eliminated or restricted both the supply to and goal-scoring opportunities for the highly dangerous Cristiano Ronaldo. Klopp used gegenpressing to capitalise on Dortmund’s ability to execute extremely quick transitions, moving the ball up the field as fast as possible.

Ultra-Fast Transitions

Speed of play matters very much to Klopp. This season, Dortmund’s attack has taken on a new dimension with the acquisition of young German international Marco Reus. He and the young maestro Mario Götze (who has now signed for Bayern Munich), regarded by many as the new Messi-in-the-making, have brilliantly exploited the space between defence and midfield. Klopp has encouraged the pair to play as close together as possible. Dortmund's transitions have been even quicker than in previous seasons and Götze and Reus have created the vast majority of Dortmund's scoring chances.

Anyone who has watched Dortmund this season can't fail to have been impressed by the chemistry and link-up play of Götze and Reus, referred to collectively as "Götzeus" because of their inventive interplay, involving almost telepathic passing and movement. This has added an additional layer of sophistication and unpredictability to Dortmund's play. Their lightening-quick attacking movements have capitalised on the devastating finishing of players like Polish international forward Lewandowski. A great example of this was the build-up to their opening goal against Malaga in the Champions League quarter-final. The speed of passing and movement that preceded Reus's fantastic mid-air back-heeled flick to put Lewandowski through to score was sublime.

Work Ethic

But let's not forget that Dortmund's technical and individual brilliance is driven by high levels of motivation and commitment. Klopp has inspired his players to work extremely hard as a team, referring to this as "greed...the hunger to eat up that extra kilometer of grass." Klopp knows only too well that any tactical approach, including gegenpressing, won't bring success without sheer hard work. Earlier this season Klopp commented, "I want us to go to the limit every time. There's a saying: a good horse only jumps as high as it needs to. I've put it differently for my team: a really good horse jumps as high as it can. To give everything on the pitch, that's what we train for."
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The German Football Masterplan
 
You should read this Raikan personally think it will make the BVB tactic more realistic. :D

BORUSSIA DORTMUND AND KLOPP'S GEGENPRESSING TACTIC

Without doubt, the huge success of Barcelona and the Spanish national side presented European and international football with a significant problem. The challenge has been to develop a tactical approach capable of triumphing over tiki-taka.

Let's consider Borussia Dortmund's solution. Their astute manager Jürgen Klopp studied the Barça style in great detail but, importantly, he didn't set out to imitate tiki-taka. Instead, he developed the gegenpressing style of play.

How Gegenpressing Works

Gegenpressing differs from Barcelona's approach of pressing teams as high up the pitch as possible by incorporating a defensive as well as attacking element, which involves the whole team pressing aggressively in unison. Gegenpressing is a highly-organised approach to regaining possession and minimising space for the opposition. Dortmund's opponents are rapidly closed down by well-rehearsed, co-ordinated pressing movements, often by two or more players, allied with intelligent positioning to restrict space for players to pass and move into. Klopp knows that possession of the ball without creating and taking goal-scoring opportunities means little. He also understands that for possession-based approaches like tiki-taka to be effective, players need space to pass and move in key areas, particularly the final third of the pitch.

The Dortmund manager has described gegenpressing as "the best playmaker in the world. The best moment to win the ball is immediately after your team just lost it. The opponent is still looking for orientation where to pass the ball." Once Dortmund have regained possession, the transition from defence to attack is organised and, potentially, explosive. But, although Klopp is renowned for his commitment to open attacking football, he is no 'one trick pony'. Gegenpressing does not mean playing the same way all the time. Dortmund can play a variety of styles and formations, all underpinned by the gegenpressing approach.

Against Real Madrid in the Champions League group stages this season, Madrid were allowed the majority of ball possession but the Dortmund players closely pressed Madrid players like Xabi Alonso to limit his ability to pass and bring others into the game. Klopp and his players did their homework to learn how to anticipate Madrid's play and successfully eliminated or restricted both the supply to and goal-scoring opportunities for the highly dangerous Cristiano Ronaldo. Klopp used gegenpressing to capitalise on Dortmund’s ability to execute extremely quick transitions, moving the ball up the field as fast as possible.

Ultra-Fast Transitions

Speed of play matters very much to Klopp. This season, Dortmund’s attack has taken on a new dimension with the acquisition of young German international Marco Reus. He and the young maestro Mario Götze (who has now signed for Bayern Munich), regarded by many as the new Messi-in-the-making, have brilliantly exploited the space between defence and midfield. Klopp has encouraged the pair to play as close together as possible. Dortmund's transitions have been even quicker than in previous seasons and Götze and Reus have created the vast majority of Dortmund's scoring chances.

Anyone who has watched Dortmund this season can't fail to have been impressed by the chemistry and link-up play of Götze and Reus, referred to collectively as "Götzeus" because of their inventive interplay, involving almost telepathic passing and movement. This has added an additional layer of sophistication and unpredictability to Dortmund's play. Their lightening-quick attacking movements have capitalised on the devastating finishing of players like Polish international forward Lewandowski. A great example of this was the build-up to their opening goal against Malaga in the Champions League quarter-final. The speed of passing and movement that preceded Reus's fantastic mid-air back-heeled flick to put Lewandowski through to score was sublime.

Work Ethic

But let's not forget that Dortmund's technical and individual brilliance is driven by high levels of motivation and commitment. Klopp has inspired his players to work extremely hard as a team, referring to this as "greed...the hunger to eat up that extra kilometer of grass." Klopp knows only too well that any tactical approach, including gegenpressing, won't bring success without sheer hard work. Earlier this season Klopp commented, "I want us to go to the limit every time. There's a saying: a good horse only jumps as high as it needs to. I've put it differently for my team: a really good horse jumps as high as it can. To give everything on the pitch, that's what we train for."
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The German Football Masterplan


 
ammar2010 said:
Thanx raikan's

its did well with Real madrid won every thing in first season
but my question is
what about load training I mean (high , average ... etc )) pls

sorry my english not good
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nice mate :)

I leave it on average to be honest, with a club like that you are playing 2-3 games a week
 
Zero0o said:
Great work and all, but from what I've seen from Dortmund they are more direct and counter attack a lot more.
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yeah mate, I left it default as to incorporate a possession style fluidity to the tactic.. a lot of the players are set to mixed/direct passing besides the striker and wingers..

you are more than welcome to change it up as you feel fit, I am no longer playing Fm at the moment and have not for over a month
 
TTGB said:
I got fm this week and started using this tactic with man utd. It seems to be working but I have a big problem converting chances. I usually get about 20 shots at goal but less than 40% on target. I also have a big issue with injuries. Are there anything I can do to sort this. What shouts do you use if you need to score towards the end of the game?

what is your general training? I use average and balanced, is this ok?
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how long have you used it for? are you using the shouts?

injuries are a bug on this patch and there is nothing you can really do about it unfortunately..

average/fitness most of the time, feel like I get better results using it to be honest, may just be coincidence though :)
 
jeid said:
I may have mentioned this in a previous post, but has anyone noticed how good this is on possession? Good passing, good possession. I think this is my new favourite tactic. The Madness Tactic is excellent, but this has a better style of play imo.
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I get 60% and over in most home games, sometimes 75% plus depending on opposition

glad its going well mate :)
 
nice possesion 60%+ u should create new 4-1-2-2-1 tiki-taka tactic ;)
 
Hi im really struggling with chelsea atm i cant get oscar hazard and mata to perform all at the same time will this tactic help them to perform at the same time ps where is the latest version of your formation
 
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Yoblackcat said:
Hi im really struggling with chelsea atm i cant get oscar hazard and mata to perform all at the same time will this tactic help them to perform at the same time ps where is the latest version of your formation
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Anyone
 
How do you adjust for away games? And is there a special thought behind the counter attack button being left unticked?
 
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Yoblackcat said:
Hi im really struggling with chelsea atm i cant get oscar hazard and mata to perform all at the same time will this tactic help them to perform at the same time ps where is the latest version of your formation
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yes it is mate

where are you playing them?
 
I would try with Juventus at 4th season of my career.
The latest version of the tactic is on first page?
 
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