Roy Hodgson poised to become new Liverpool manager

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Exactly my point, a lot of think of people think Hodgson will fail and I admit he is too defensive but he can do very well with the likes of Torres and Gerrard at his disposal. I imagine if you keep both of them, you'll see a 4-4-1-1 formation with Gerrard in the hole, very much like the Gera - Zamora partnership which was very successful this season.

Well, last year, although on paper it was a 4-2-3-1, We were very much a 4-5-1, and I think people underestimate just how very bollocks we were last year, Hodgson has done well, apart from a few places, Blackburn Etc, But I'm very willing to give him my trust and let him try, even if he wasn't my first choice, at least we should not concede as many goals as we did last year, And Insua, the smallest lad on the pitch, won't be marking the ******* tallest player. All. The. Time :@ I just hope he dosen't bring players from Fulham, really, I wouldn't mind Dempsey, or even Gera just as long as he didn't bring Konchesky and co. Mascherano (if he stays) will flurish under Hodgosn, in theory
 
Well, last year, although on paper it was a 4-2-3-1, We were very much a 4-5-1, and I think people underestimate just how very bollocks we were last year, Hodgson has done well, apart from a few places, Blackburn Etc, But I'm very willing to give him my trust and let him try, even if he wasn't my first choice, at least we should not concede as many goals as we did last year, And Insua, the smallest lad on the pitch, won't be marking the ******* tallest player. All. The. Time :@ I just hope he dosen't bring players from Fulham, really, I wouldn't mind Dempsey, or even Gera just as long as he didn't bring Konchesky and co. Mascherano (if he stays) will flurish under Hodgosn, in theory

Danny Murphy and Simon Davies ;)
 
Mehh, I know this doesn't represent all Liverpool fans but some of these comments are a joke.

http://www.redandwhitekop.com/forum/index.php?topic=259891.120

Well, last year, although on paper it was a 4-2-3-1, We were very much a 4-5-1, and I think people underestimate just how very bollocks we were last year, Hodgson has done well, apart from a few places, Blackburn Etc, But I'm very willing to give him my trust and let him try, even if he wasn't my first choice, at least we should not concede as many goals as we did last year, And Insua, the smallest lad on the pitch, won't be marking the ******* tallest player. All. The. Time :@ I just hope he dosen't bring players from Fulham, really, I wouldn't mind Dempsey, or even Gera just as long as he didn't bring Konchesky and co. Mascherano (if he stays) will flurish under Hodgosn, in theory

I doubt that he'll bring any Fulham players but if he does, I imagine it will be Dempsey. I think he will bring out the best in Mascherano and Lucas though. Probably try and sort out Babel's work ethic but he will love Dirk Kuyt.
 
Mehh, I know this doesn't represent all Liverpool fans but some of these comments are a joke.

http://www.redandwhitekop.com/forum/index.php?topic=259891.120

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I doubt that he'll bring any Fulham players but if he does, I imagine it will be Dempsey. I think he will bring out the best in Mascherano and Lucas though.

Lol, Mate, you picked the worst 'Pool forum to go on, Almost as bad as Koptalk. Go on the offical forum, to see the TRUE fans majority ^_^
I hope he dosen't bring Zamora, he had a great season, but he's aging, and has a large fee, and probably won't have as good have season, as last, Dempsey seems good from what I've seen, but we need a LW more. Dempsey reminds me of Kuyt for some reason :/

Honestly, I wouldn't mind Murphy coming back, as back-up and a tutor, really (H)
 
Well, I think this is a good deal for Liverpool. But I am sad for Fulham losing a manager that has led them to the Final of the European League Cup. He also led Fulham to the 8th place for what I can remember. I really don't hope to see Fulham going downhill, only because Roy Hodgson leaves for Liverpool. Well, he been pretty good at Malmö FF where I think he made them UEFA CUP champions. And he also been the Inter Manager. :P
 
One thing that dosen't add up for me, is Fulham's owner is really rich, yeah, But they don't seem to get much funding,really :/ I don't think, really, Fulham would have been consistently in Europe with or without Hodgson, I'm afraid
 
One thing that dosen't add up for me, is Fulham's owner is really rich, yeah, But they don't seem to get much funding,really :/ I don't think, really, Fulham would have been consistently in Europe with or without Hodgson, I'm afraid

He is trying to be self sufficient club, they arent in danger of going bust like so many others. so fair play to him.
 
One thing that dosen't add up for me, is Fulham's owner is really rich, yeah, But they don't seem to get much funding,really :/ I don't think, really, Fulham would have been consistently in Europe with or without Hodgson, I'm afraid
sorry thats nonsense, cant believe you seem to belittle what he has done with fulham. they are aside who were on the verge of relegation a few years back. the club and al fayed have shown prudence, something thats rare in football these days. because of it, financially fulham will be a safe club
 
One thing that dosen't add up for me, is Fulham's owner is really rich, yeah, But they don't seem to get much funding,really :/ I don't think, really, Fulham would have been consistently in Europe with or without Hodgson, I'm afraid

I'm guessing you are like 4 years old lol? Do you not remember the signings of Van Der Sar, Saha, Marlet etc, or you could go back further to when Al Fayed took over and look at the amount he spent on a Fulham that was then a tiny club.
 
sorry thats nonsense, cant believe you seem to belittle what he has done with fulham. they are aside who were on the verge of relegation a few years back. the club and al fayed have shown prudence, something thats rare in football these days. because of it, financially fulham will be a safe club

I didn't try to belittle it, But I just doubt that they could become constant europers, And I didn't know of what Al Fayed was trying to do, But fair do's to him, for what he's doing and all, Wish he supported us (6)


I'm guessing you are like 4 years old lol? Do you not remember the signings of Van Der Sar, Saha, Marlet etc, or you could go back further to when Al Fayed took over and look at the amount he spent on a Fulham that was then a tiny club.
Lol, No, Add 11 years onto that, But i just can't remember that far back :D
 
sorry thats nonsense, cant believe you seem to belittle what he has done with fulham. they are aside who were on the verge of relegation a few years back. the club and al fayed have shown prudence, something thats rare in football these days. because of it, financially fulham will be a safe club

Hmmm, not really. They spent fairly heavily the summer before they finished 7th (£20 million+). They are at pretty much the limit financially now though without major longterm financial commitment from Al Fayed. Same with a lot of clubs though - Villa are in the same boat. Spurs have got the potential CL money this season but are also very close to the limit. Liverpool are well over it purely because of the owners' debt.

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Also: Hodgson now confirmed. Official announcement to follow soon.

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/live...-as-new-liverpool-fc-manager-100252-26753865/

ROY HODGSON will be officially named Liverpool’s new manager tomorrow (Wednesday).

The 62-year-old is due on Merseyside to complete the formalities of signing a contract after the Reds agreed a compensation package in the region of £2million with Fulham for his release.

Cordial negotiations have been ongoing in the past 72 hours between Liverpool’s Managing Director Christian Purslow and Fulham Chief Executive Alastair Mackintosh and they have now reached a successful conclusion.

Though Liverpool – who have remained tight-lipped throughout their search to replace Rafa Benitez – were linked with a clutch of names, Hodgson was always the number one candidate.

Other names in the frame included former Real Madrid boss Manuel Pellegrini, Galatasary’s Frank Rijkaard and Didier Deschamps of Marseille, while Kenny Dalglish also made it clear he was desperate to take the job on.

Dalglish had initially been named as part of the recruitment process but he was desperate to have a second crack at the post he occupied between 1985 and 1991 when he felt his claims were as strong as the other candidates.

The board, though, were anxious to pursue Hodgson and Liverpool will be his 16th job in a managerial career that has spanned almost 35 years.

His first post was with Swedish side Halmstads in 1976 and he enjoyed instant success, leading them to two Swedish titles; he would later coach Malmo after a brief stint with Bristol City.

Success in charge of the Swiss national team led to him being appointed Inter Milan manager in 1995 and the highlight of his time at the San Siro was an appearance in the 1997 UEFA Cup final appearance, which they lost on penalties to Schalke 04.

Hodgson’s first crack at the Premier League came later that year, when he took over at Blackburn, but things did not go according to plan at Ewood Park – despite qualifying for Europe, he was sacked in December 1998.

Stints with Udinese, the United Arab Emirates, Viking Stavanger and Finland followed before Fulham turned to him in December 2007 and he successfully led their battle to avoid the drop, which they did thanks to a last day with at Portsmouth.

After that, his time at Craven Cottage went from strength to strength and he enhanced his reputation while transforming Fulham’s fortunes, guiding them to their highest Premier League finish and an appearance in the Europa League final.

Now he has a fresh challenge and Hodgson, the LMA’s current Manager of the Year, will meet those Liverpool players who have not been at the World Cup tomorrow when they return for pre-season training.

It had been mooted that Hodgson, who is expected to bring his trusted assistant Mike Kelly with him to Anfield, would be favourite to become England manager if the Football Association decided to sack Fabio Capello.

However, it is understood the delay in Hodgson being appointed to his new role had nothing to do with him waiting to see what happened with England.

One of Hodgson’s first jobs at Anfield will be to ratify Yossi Benayoun’s move to Chelsea after the clubs agreed a fee in the region of £6m for the Israeli midfielder.
 
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Saw this on SSN.

Wonder who will be taking over at Fulham.
 
Hmmm, not really. They spent fairly heavily the summer before they finished 7th (£20 million+). They are at pretty much the limit financially now though without major longterm financial commitment from Al Fayed. Same with a lot of clubs though - Villa are in the same boat. Spurs have got the potential CL money this season but are also very close to the limit. Liverpool are well over it purely because of the owners' debt.

We didn't spend that much when you consider our net transfer spending, we sold the likes of Steve Davis, David Healy, Lee Cook and Jimmy Bullard mid season which brought meant that we didn't really spend as much as you'd think.

Saw this on SSN.

Wonder who will be taking over at Fulham.

Alan Curbishley is bookies favourite but no one wants him, mainly due to the fact that he's fallen out with Danny Murphy, Paul Konchesky and Bobby Zamora in the past.

Most people want Mark Hughes although Sean O'Driscoll who manages Doncaster may be in contention.
 
BBC's Phil McNulty think its the perfect fit, Its definitley going to end badly then

Exactly, that blog was an absolute joke. Little less than a year ago McNulty was singing Rafa's praises and in that latest blog he was very critical of his management.

In today's money, Hodgson spent the equivalent of £75 million in two years at Blackburn. They got relegated. Andy Johnson was a good signing for Fulham...

Exactly, he has made a few blunders in the past. With Blackburn, he spent 7.5m on Kevin Davis.

Most people want Mark Hughes although Sean O'Driscoll who manages Doncaster may be in contention.

It's the sort of job that would suit Hughes to a T. Would love to see O'Driscoll given a shot by a bigger side than Doncaster, he has them playing some great football.
 
I cannot stand McNumpty, just sheep-mentality sensationalist drivel all the time. Actually appauled that he is the BBC's chief football writer...
 
People say he uses the long ball counter attacking mentality, but surely it depends on the players at his disposal? We just need a new DM if Mascherano goes, Like Annan, perhaps, a back-up RB, a good LB, but most importantly, Roy has to bring through some youth players. Something Rafa never did do. To any Fulham fans, Does he use Zonal Marking?
 
What Hodgson Inherits

This is a look at what awaits Roy Hodgson when he pitches up at Anfield, to take over from Rafa Benítez. It is also a call to arms to deluded fans to get real about what the club can realistically achieve with the current problems.

An excellent first XI with time on its side.

A couple of weak areas (mainly the left side), but still a lot of quality. As it stands, the following team, with a fairly young average age, could be fielded:

Reina, Johnson, Carragher, Agger, Insua, Maxi, Mascherano, Aquilani, Kuyt, Gerrard and Torres.

Of course, this could change by the time the season starts. And to be fair to Hodgson, his true inheritance will only be known once the summer transfer window closes, and he’s dealt with those who have asked to leave, and also those who have been sold from under him.

With Benítez, when assessing the squad he started with (such as in “Dynasty”, where I looked at all Liverpool managers since 1959), I discounted players already set on leaving due to disenchantment (Michael Owen), and included those set to sign (Cissé; although the transfer fee belongs on Houllier’s record).

Therefore, losing the already-unhappy Benayoun would be down to Benítez, not Hodgson, but so would signing Milan Jovanovic and Jonjo Shelvey.

However, should Torres, Gerrard or Mascherano leave, Benítez cannot necessary take the blame: the financial situation at the club means that resisting sales might be harder than normal. Gerrard seemed disenchanted with Benítez, but Mascherano and Torres are more likely to be fed up at the way the club is being run.

And while some players may have been frustrated with Benítez, and the way last season went, the situation could have been avoided had transfer funds not been withdrawn from the manager last summer. Undermine a manager’s squad, and you undermine him.

In all reality, Mascherano seems likeliest to leave. He was eyeing Barcelona last season, but the fact that he would like to work with Benítez again confirms that the manager was not to blame for any unrest on the player’s part.

A mixed bag outside of that XI.

Skrtel, Kyrgiakos and Babel all went to the World Cup; none is perfect, but each has his useful strengths. Lucas featured in some of Brazil’s more recent squads, prior to the tournament; should Mascherano leave, he would be a reasonably ideal replacement. Jonjo Shelvey, signed from Charlton, is likely to press for a place in the 18.

Sadly, Fabio Aurelio, having become a free agent, has left. Hopefully Albert Riera will follow him, albeit for a decent transfer fee. Philipp Degen can also expect to find himself surplus to requirements (although Hodgson does like Swiss players). Diego Cavalieri has done his two-year stint on the bench, and may be replaced by another adequate goalkeeper who won’t get close to the near-perfect Pepe Reina’s spot.

At 21, David Ngog remains a very bright prospect; a player I believe will be a real gem by the age of 24/25, when he’s filled out a bit and gained more experience. However, I’m less convinced by Jay Spearing’s long-term chances. Damien Plessis is another who hasn’t really pushed on, and could find himself sold. Krisztian Nemeth did okay in Greece on loan, but injuries have dogged his progress and in terms of first-team readiness, the jury is out. (He’s a great finisher, and clever player, but lacks pace, height and strength, plus fitness in the past two years.)

And then come the teenagers: Pacheco, Kelly and Ayala, all of whom appear to have what it takes to be further blooded in 2010/11. Ngoo, Palsson, Mavinga, Amoo and Dalla Valle have a chance to push for their debuts, too.

At 22, he’s not really a kid anymore, but Francisco Duran is a real gem; if he can get over the three (yes, three) cruciate knee ligament injuries sustained since 2007 (and he appeared to be, towards the end of last season), then he is definitely first-team material.

Zsolt Poloskei, the 19-year-old Hungarian midfield playmaker, is another in the Xabi Alonso mould. He put in possibly the best reserve performance I’ve seen in years last season against Everton, but ended up being stretchered off with the same injury that has beset Duran.

A rapidly improving reserve and youth set-up.

As can be seen from the youngsters starting to seriously push for first team places, and the fact that the reserves came close to winning a second title in just three seasons, the second-string has some potential. However, reserve coaches Antonio Gomez and Gonzalo Rodriguez are now gone, with Gomez taking over at Real Valladolid, and hoping to purchase Daniel Ayala.

From what I hear, Hodgson is not someone overly concerned with youth development; in contrast to what Benítez was trying to do at Liverpool, he is not a ‘club builder’, but instead someone who has not stayed in one place too long. At 62, it’s unlikely he’ll last the six years that Houllier and Benítez managed.

This is my main concern. Whatever people think about Benítez, and whether or not the time had come to replace him, he had fought hard (and finally won those battles) to make a lot of changes to get the ‘next wave’ ready to come through. It would be folly for Rodolfo Borrell and Pep Segura’s excellent work at the Academy to be sacrificed at this stage. Hopefully Dalglish, as part of the Academy, appreciates this, and stresses that to his friend, the new manager.

Hodgson would have inherited a Spanish culture, at a time when La Liga is the strongest league in the world, and Spain, and its famous youth production line (in part down to Borrell and Segura at Barcelona), are arguably the best international side on the planet; but a lot of that culture is being stripped away, piece by piece. It’s the 180º u-turn I feared, although that doesn’t necessarily mean it’s doomed (just the the precedents aren’t that good. See Newcastle and England.)

By contrast, Hodgson’s credentials relate mostly to England and Scandinavia, at a time when players of those nationalities are under scrutiny. (They heydays of Norway, Sweden and Denmark were in the ‘80s, at a time when Hodgson was part of the scene. But nowadays, English players are overpriced, and Scandinavians well below the standards of twenty-thirty years ago. Exceptions to the rule exist, but are thin on the ground.)

Equally, Benítez had worked hard to set up scouting networks in South America – the most successful continent in this year’s World Cup – and has had success with Mascherano, Maxi, Insua, Lucas and Aurelio, all of whom hail from that part of the world. Liverpool are very much a Latin set-up, and Hodgson does not have much of a record with such players; his forte is more north European.

Ill-Will

Though it’s surely unfair, there is already a lot of ill-will towards Hodgson. Fair-minded fans will give him the chance to impress, but there are a number of problems that were are not used to seeing.

These are as follows:

-Those running the club have never been more unpopular. Therefore, he will be seen as doing their bidding. While I don’t for one moment think Hodgson is being brought in to sell the stars – that’s ludicrous – he is seen as someone less likely to kick up a fuss than Benítez if forced to offload his best players. After all, he’s taking the job with those realities in mind, whereas Benítez took the job based on promises of old.

-Benítez split fan opinion towards the end, but he had more support than Houllier or Souness in their final days; Evans was perhaps more liked, as ‘one of our own’, but most people felt he was not an outstanding manager. As such, this summer Liverpool got rid of a manager who was still respected and loved by a good proportion of supporters, and whose record up to last season was excellent, not least in Europe. Some of these fans already seem unwilling to even give his replacement a fair crack, and though that’s unfair, I do understand their frustration.

-Even many of Rafa’s harshest critics amongst the support are bemused by the appointment of Hodgson. Many of them were living in Cloud Cuckooland anyway, expecting Mourinho or Hiddink. When Stan Collymore campaigned on a weekly basis to rid the club of Rafa last season, Mourinho was his solution (oh, and £100m net to spend). Instead, it’s Hodgson and a shoestring.

Good Will Hodgson

To counter this, Hodgson will inherit love from a boardroom clearly happy to be shot of Benítez, and be afforded a more dignified press by this country’s hacks. He also inherits senior English players who, the latest rumblings suggest, wanted a home-grown boss.

While it is deeply concerning if the decision was made on that basis, if it helps keep Gerrard and, in turn, his presence helps keep Torres, that’s part of the battle won.

He also inherits a beneficial scapegoat: Benítez. If he fails, it will be because ‘the squad was rubbish’. If he succeeds, well, it proves that Benítez failed to get the best out of those players.

Reality

Overall, Hodgson inherits the same reality that finally stumped Benítez (a man who, in the history of the Premier League, ranks 4th* in terms of highest number of average points, behind Mourinho, Ferguson and Wenger, and well above those in 5th place and below. *Out of those managers with a minimum of three seasons).

That reality is of a club looking to improve commercially, but held back by awful owners, massive debt and a need to sell before buying. It is a club with too many owners (two) and too many chiefs (two). Most clubs make do with one of each.

Obstacles to a top-four finish: Man City’s continued spending on top-class talent; the fact that United’s last great team (assembled mostly between 2003 and 2007) is unlikely to be greatly strengthened but equally, is still mostly intact; Chelsea’s combination of world-class players and a world-class manager; Arsenal’s possession of a long-established world-class manager, their own money-printing stadium, and a long-established youth team ethic; and Spurs’ ability to finally attract players for Champions League football.

Another problem is that the UEFA Cup starts early, but Liverpool still have six of their best players in South Africa (compared with Manchester United’s zero). Yet again key men will not have the proper pre-season due to international football. If the Reds fall to a shock early exit, Hodgson may struggle to recover. However, these games will help sharpen the squad ahead of the opening Premier League fixture, a tricky home tie against Arsenal.

And unfortunately for him, Hodgson inherits the expectations of some deluded fans who think that Liverpool can challenge for the title in 2010/11. Yes, they exist, and I’ve heard from them.

So I end not with a desire to depress, but a desire to get real. Unless new owners suddenly appear and bestow great fortunes, if Hodgson takes Liverpool back into the top four he will have done a great job (especially if Torres and Gerrard have the same injury problems as last season).

If he takes Liverpool higher than 3rd, I will be absolutely amazed. If he wins the title or, within two years, the Champions League, he deserves to be knighted.
 
People say he uses the long ball counter attacking mentality, but surely it depends on the players at his disposal? We just need a new DM if Mascherano goes, Like Annan, perhaps, a back-up RB, a good LB, but most importantly, Roy has to bring through some youth players. Something Rafa never did do. To any Fulham fans, Does he use Zonal Marking?
there is nothing wrong with zonal marking. chelsea and inter milan, and united use it, use it to great effect. in fact most top teams use zonal marking. its just something pundits used to batter benitez over the head with.
 
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