The Arsenal Thread

[Mike.]

Yeah, maybe your right. He is not the only one accusing him for moving for money. Millions of Arsen fans aswell lol.

There is still a bit difference when Frimpong says it and when a bitter gunner says it. For his own sake..he should not try to get himself in trouble or get a bad reputation for taunting other fellow collegues...especially when it's about someone just moving clubs.

It wouldn't be nice if all famous professional footballers are on twitter slagging each player moving and for other things. A few days ago...Danny Simpson (the newcastle player) called Dzeko a waste of money and a pony before he got silenced by Dzeko with his Bolton performance. If everyone would do that in the premier league and Dzeko would see it it would certainly only create bad blood.

Would you accept if a United player like Rooney was slagging off Ronaldo for moving to Real? I dont....they should think better!

He is ******, and im sure Wenger will say "keep it in check". As for the hypothetical scenario, the club has rules on that kind of twitter, and Ronaldo's move or conduct didn't create any bad blood, it seems Nasri's might have though. Doesn't make him a ****, but agree maybe not the smartest thing

As for Danny Simpson, that's just made him look like an idiot. I'm sure Dzeko will relish meeting him again soon

 

[Lol_101]

at least it a recoup cash for him alright. we brought him in for 12m-ish???, and now selling double the amount

im waiting for the day Man $ity goes into recession XD

 

[I Hate Fish]

Good news for us Arsenal fans:

Wenger - I intend to strengthen my midfield

By Chris Harris

Arsène Wenger intends to plug the gaps left by the departures of Cesc Fabregas and Samir Nasribefore the transfer window closes.

The French midfielder is on the verge of signing for Manchester City after Arsenal agreed terms with their Premier League rivals on Tuesday. Nasri's move will go through subject to a medical and registration processes.

Wenger is currently in Italy for Wednesday's Champions League Play-Off against Udinese but the manager is determined to reinforce his squad when he returns.

"What is at stake at the moment is for us to qualify tomorrow and we can only do it with the players we have at the moment," said Wenger.

"They are good enough to achieve that and therefore after that we will see what we can do. We are working very hard on the transfer market.

"We brought in [Alex Oxlade-] Chamberlain - you will see that he will be a great player. Gervinho will be a great player for this club too but we want ideally more. We are short in midfield at the moment and that is where we want to strengthen."

Fabregas and Nasri's departures have coincided with the start of Arsenal's campaign but Wenger believes that the rest of his squad will rise above recent events to get the right result in Italy.

"There is always a concern [that players can be affected] but it is not an excuse," said the manager.

"You are always concerned about the consequences it can have on the team. It can have a positive consequence as well - if you are strong mentally it can increase the solidarity, knowing you have to fight more.

"That is ideally what you want from mentally strong players."

AND:

[h=1]Wenger on the bench for Udinese game[/h]UEFA has confirmed that Arsène Wenger will be free to coach his team during tomorrow night's crucial UEFA Champions League play-off tie with Udinese Calcio.

Wenger received a two match touchline ban after the first leg last week, but following an application to stay this sanction lodged by Arsenal today, the suspension will now not take immediate effect, meaning that the manager can resume his duties from the dugout in Udine.

The two match ban has now been stayed, pending Arsenal's appeal to UEFA's Control and Disciplinary Body to overturn the ruling altogether.

 

[curtis290]

What a shame that Arsenal didn't get Mata...I don't know what they were thinking. Hazard is less proven and more expensive, although I doubt they'll get him. I have a feeling they might buy a cheap CB and that will be it. If they're getting rid of Squillaci than they need a 4th CB, a DM (they only have three for two positions), and another attacking player--someone who can play in the middle and on the wing. Mata would have been PERFECT, and he wasn't all that expensive considering the way the market is right now. Maybe at that time Wenger thought Fabregas and Nasri might stay? I'm really not sure what's going on. This could be Wenger's first big mistake in a long time and I think it'll cost them the top 4 spot. They just don't have the depth at the moment to compete with the super talented teams (Man City, Chelsea) or the winners (ManU, and now Liverpool, which will be challenging for the league title this year I think). Wenger's only mistake is not spending more this summer (and it's understandable considering how badly they got hosed on the Fabregas and Nasri deals) but he really hasn't done much wrong...it's just that foreign money makes it near impossible to compete fairly in the Prem right now. Arsenal is doing things the right way, as clubs should, and ManCity and Chelsea simply have an unfair advantage and do not operate how a club can or should operate in the real world.

 

[Redrup]

Huh. Somehow I wasn't expecting that... After news of talks breaking down etc.

Glad to see the back of him tbh - was decent against Liverpool but if he doesn't want to play, he doesn't want to play and we have to take the money and run for the hills.

But we absolutely have to replace him before the window shuts or we can wave goodbye to any chances of silverware we had this season.

I don't even think he was decent, showed a bit of desire and creativity going forward but if he didn't have the ball at his feet he wasn't interested. For example, the 2nd goal where he let Meireles run right by him while he strolled along was very much his fault.

 

[Redrup]

It's a major loss that Nasri will be leaving Arsenal because he was regarded as a ideal replacement for Fabregas. Arsenal have done well to sell a player who's heart was elsewhere and morale wasn't as good as it should be.

It's more then vital that Arsenal snap up a playmaker before the transfer window closes - we simply can't operate beautifully without a playmaker - also vital we capture a defender.

There's rumours that Marin and Cahill were scouted by Rowley last week - could possibly be a hint that Arsenal may go for these two, who knows?

Couldn't disagree with you more, Nasri just isn't good in the Fabregas role and, IMO, never will be.

 

[Lol_101]

Team news: Djourou, Rosicky, Wilshere | News Archive | News | Arsenal.com

Arsenal Squad announced for italy game. and cool djouro is back.

Arsenal squad to face Udinese:
Wojciech Szczesny
Lukasz Fabianski
Carl Jenkinson
Bacary Sagna
Thomas Vermaelen
Johan Djourou
Armand Traore
Ignasi Miquel
Andrey Arshavin
Emmanuel Frimpong
Gervinho
Aaron Ramsey
Alex Song
Theo Walcott
Tomas Rosicky
Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain
Marouane Chamakh
Robin van Persie


on the players returning to the squad...
Rosicky is in the squad, he's available, he had a
test this [Tuesday] morning. We don't know whether he will be fit to start but
he is in the squad. Djourou and Traore are back as well. Alex Song and Gervinho are
back from suspension. Robin van Persie and Emmanuel Frimpong are
available too.

on Jack Wilshere...
Unfortunately Wilshere is not ready so that
is bad news for us and adds to the players we miss with transfers and some
through injuries. Of course at the moment the squad is short.

on Laurent Koscielny...
Koscielny is out but he has a chance to be
fit to face Manchester United.

 

[philly]

So we should start with

Szczesny
Jenkinson - Djourou - Vermaelen - Sagna
Song - Ramsey/Frimpong
Walcott - Rosicky/Ramsey - Gervinho
van Persie

That should be a good enough team to see us through.

 

[Joss]

It's becoming alarmingly clear how much we miss Wilshere. We need back-up for him IMO and even though I've said no to this for a while, I really think we should just play Frimpong and Song together at CM/DM and Ramsey ahead of them. The Ramsey-Rosicky partnership just isn't working... The sooner we have Diaby back, the better IMO.

 

[Mike.]

It's becoming alarmingly clear how much we miss Wilshere. We need back-up for him IMO and even though I've said no to this for a while, I really think we should just play Frimpong and Song together at CM/DM and Ramsey ahead of them. The Ramsey-Rosicky partnership just isn't working... The sooner we have Diaby back, the better IMO.

For a man so tactically intelligent, Arsene is being a bit tactically inflexible

The Mata deal is an aberration on Arsenal's behalf. I dont know if it was Wenger, or something else in the boardroom ( i suspect something in the boardroom). But that was a huge error

 

[brommers92]

IMO our best starting 11 side would be........

scezezny

gibbs vermaelen djourou sagna

wilshere song

walcott gervinho arshavin

van persie

at least with this team we have a goal getter and the pace on the wing to get support to RVP quickly. also with gervinho in behind RVP we have a way to attack through the heart of teams without just passing around them

looking at that squad though, we clearly need an expirienced GK with the age of around 26, 27 and we need a strong tall CB to partner TV possibly gary cahill. LB and RB are okay but we clearly need to boost up our defence, nasri has gone so its time that we cash in on him and get the hazard brothers in a joint 30ml deal IMO. also, this season is crunch time for chamakh. he really needs to step up his game and give us some variation up top.

 

[Joss]

For a man so tactically intelligent, Arsene is being a bit tactically inflexible

The Mata deal is an aberration on Arsenal's behalf. I dont know if it was Wenger, or something else in the boardroom ( i suspect something in the boardroom). But that was a huge error

Indeed - I think you've said that somewhere already

I think the M'Vila rumours are interesting, though. I doubt there are plans to move Wilshere further forward, and I could only see M'Vila being back-up but it would presumably put an end to the double pivot if we signed him (and played him in the current Wilshere role)

 

[Calum]

arshavin must never play on the wings again.

 

[Lol_101]

arshavin must never play on the wings again.

why ?

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Indeed - I think you've said that somewhere already

I think the M'Vila rumours are interesting, though. I doubt there are plans to move Wilshere further forward, and I could only see M'Vila being back-up but it would presumably put an end to the double pivot if we signed him (and played him in the current Wilshere role)

what about hazard rumors ?

 

[Calum]

not a winger and doesn't track back backup at best we should play ryo

 

[Mike.]

Indeed - I think you've said that somewhere already

I think the M'Vila rumours are interesting, though. I doubt there are plans to move Wilshere further forward, and I could only see M'Vila being back-up but it would presumably put an end to the double pivot if we signed him (and played him in the current Wilshere role)

Lol I can't get my head round it. I'm actually really annoyed. God knows what I'd do if I was a gunner. M'vila would be an astute buy, hes more than just a DM he's an intelligent box to box player, capable of crafting chances out. Which then begs the question of why Arsene didnt target Cabaye. Wilshere is definitely capable further forwards, and it may yet benefit Arsenal to do so

 

[Sulsey]

Lol I can't get my head round it. I'm actually really annoyed. God knows what I'd do if I was a gunner. M'vila would be an astute buy, hes more than just a DM he's an intelligent box to box player, capable of crafting chances out. Which then begs the question of why Arsene didnt target Cabaye. Wilshere is definitely capable further forwards, and it may yet benefit Arsenal to do so

True, I also think we should have signed Mata.

 

[I Hate Fish]

I think Arshavin should be played behind the striker. He had his best years playing in that position for Russia and Zenit.

 

[Joss]

Calum - you're forgetting that when we signed him, he was outstanding for us on the left. If we played him anywhere else, I'd play him up front but he doesn't really have the strength to do that. Good player when he wants to be, but far too inconsistent.

Playing him behind the striker would be even worse - he's like Nasri; a second striker rather than a playmaker when he plays there. We'd have the exact same problems as we did with Nasri in the cesc role.

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SUCH a legend

EmmanuelF4 Emmanuel Y Frimpong



"@JackWilshere: Good luck to my friend @Nanas08 (mr Nasri) learnt a lot from him. World class player! Will be missed!"Pffffff comeon Jack

 

[4CescFabregas]

What I don't understand about the transferpolicy of Arsenal (and Arsene Wenger) is that they are only buying potential youngsters which need a couple of years before they are good first team players. Like arsene is saying: "We brought in Chamberlain - you will see that he will be a great player." Same for Jenkinson and Campbell. Only Gervinho will add something to the team at this moment. But what Arsenal needs right now are some experienced players that will bring the club to a higher level (definitely a left back, central defender, defensive and attacking midfielder). And when you see top class players leaving like Fabregas, Nasri and Clichy this season, and Adebayor, Gallas, Toure, etc. last seasons and you get back Squillaci (terrible player), Vermaelen (great), Koscielny (ok), Chamakh, etc. it is clear that the club has lost a lot of quality in the last couple of years. When you now compare the squad with that of Man Utd, Man City or Chelsea it is clear that Arsenal will have nothing to say this year in England and Europe. And unfortunately, if Arsenal (Wenger) holds on this policy and is refusing to open his cheque book, I don't see Arsenal playing for the title in the next couple of years.