The Ashes 2010/11

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Theres will be changes in both teams, It will be interested what the starting 11, will be for the 3rd test. Broad will be a big loss. I dont think the 3 spare bowlers that England have got arent that good honestly.
 
Middlesex fan, and having seen Hughes play 10-15 games a couple of seasons back, I can comprehensively say that he is ultra-talented. You are right he has nothing on Katich's experience, but where is any of Australias experience getting them so far? Bar Hussey. I'd say they've left it too late but they should have had faith in the youngsters leading up to the series, mainly Steve Smith who I cannot for the life of me understand why he's not playing. Adds to there short batting lineup and turns the ball very well for a Leggy. But no I see your point on Broad, I'm not sure Tremlett is the best choice, and I think they'll probably go with Bresnan.
 
Meh, if we didn't win by that margin I would have been disappointed. It is a great victory though.

Must remember that Australia no longer have the 2 greatest fast bowlers to cover up for Ricky Pontings bad captaincy anymore :)
 
Meh, if we didn't win by that margin I would have been disappointed. It is a great victory though.

Must remember that Australia no longer have the 2 greatest fast bowlers to cover up for Ricky Pontings bad captaincy anymore :)
Not to mention the greatest bowler of all time!
 
Meh, if we didn't win by that margin I would have been disappointed. It is a great victory though.

Must remember that Australia no longer have the 2 greatest fast bowlers to cover up for Ricky Pontings bad captaincy anymore :)

2 greatest? McGrath and... surely not Gillespie?

Not to mention the greatest bowler of all time!

Ahem... second greatest. Someone's forgetting Murali. ;)

Middlesex fan, and having seen Hughes play 10-15 games a couple of seasons back, I can comprehensively say that he is ultra-talented. You are right he has nothing on Katich's experience, but where is any of Australias experience getting them so far? Bar Hussey. I'd say they've left it too late but they should have had faith in the youngsters leading up to the series, mainly Steve Smith who I cannot for the life of me understand why he's not playing. Adds to there short batting lineup and turns the ball very well for a Leggy. But no I see your point on Broad, I'm not sure Tremlett is the best choice, and I think they'll probably go with Bresnan.

Not denying he's talented, but his head doesn't seem to be in the right place. Seems to be coming down with a bad case of the Ian Bells, mentally fragile. I'd say Australia's two best players so far have been Hussey and Haddin, both experienced players.

Don't really see what youngsters the Aussies have that are better than their current players (with the exception of the promising aforementioned Smith). I mean, their backup for Bollinger? Hilfenhaus. Doherty? Probably Smith, but seeing as they seemingly don't want to play him, Hauritz. Top-order batsmen? Hughes is young and talented, but as I said mentally fragile.

See now much as I like Brezza, he has no x-factor. He's a workhorse, a good batter and fielder, and able to tie up an end with reasonably quick, swingy, accurate bowling. Tremlett on the other hand is both tall AND fast, and can be a lethal player on his day (i.e. when he's not injured). To use a faintly stupid 2005-era example, if Broad is McGrath, a seamer with vicious accuracy, Tremlett is Gillespie, taller, faster, less accurate but whilst not as good a player, he's dangerous. Bresnan is Kasprowicz: he's average, can tie up an end, fairly accurate.
 
2 greatest? McGrath and... surely not Gillespie?



Ahem... second greatest. Someone's forgetting Murali. ;)



Not denying he's talented, but his head doesn't seem to be in the right place. Seems to be coming down with a bad case of the Ian Bells, mentally fragile. I'd say Australia's two best players so far have been Hussey and Haddin, both experienced players.

Don't really see what youngsters the Aussies have that are better than their current players (with the exception of the promising aforementioned Smith). I mean, their backup for Bollinger? Hilfenhaus. Doherty? Probably Smith, but seeing as they seemingly don't want to play him, Hauritz. Top-order batsmen? Hughes is young and talented, but as I said mentally fragile.

See now much as I like Brezza, he has no x-factor. He's a workhorse, a good batter and fielder, and able to tie up an end with reasonably quick, swingy, accurate bowling. Tremlett on the other hand is both tall AND fast, and can be a lethal player on his day (i.e. when he's not injured). To use a faintly stupid 2005-era example, if Broad is McGrath, a seamer with vicious accuracy, Tremlett is Gillespie, taller, faster, less accurate but whilst not as good a player, he's dangerous. Bresnan is Kasprowicz: he's average, can tie up an end, fairly accurate.
Not that I know a great deal about them, but the likes of Calum Ferguson, Usman Khajawa, and yes Steve Smith. Not that throwing them in now would be beneficial, but they should have prepared better, by slowly incorporating these such players into the team, as we have done, with Finn, Bell and Cook to an extent.
 
Not that I know a great deal about them, but the likes of Calum Ferguson, Usman Khajawa, and yes Steve Smith. Not that throwing them in now would be beneficial, but they should have prepared better, by slowly incorporating these such players into the team, as we have done, with Finn, Bell and Cook to an extent.

Ah, I'd forgotten about those two. Khawaja is the Pakistani, he's meant to be quite good I hear. Ferguson is meant to be decent but nothing exceptional. Either way, yes, I agree they should've incorporated them into the squad a lot sooner. Throwing them in at the deep end could be extremely detrimental against a currently rampant England squad.
 
McGrath and Lee. Going on their records against England and how theyd terrorised us for so long.
 
McGrath and Lee. Going on their records against England and how theyd terrorised us for so long.

Durr. Of course, I'd wiped Lee from my memory, I dislike him that much. Superb bowler though.
 
Ferguson looks a good player, so does the other lad which you've mentioned ^^ "CBA to spell" but no matter how half decent they look, they are not going to save the Aussies in this series, unless the old boys all came out of retirement with superb fitness and had been netting for 6 months behind the scenes, they have no chance IMO of winning even one test, unless we become too arrogant and drop our high performance levels they are doomed!

And Im really not sure about Steven Smith, he isn't bad... but he is definitely the best option they have spin wise. Hauritz... XD

I totally agree with the comments above the Aussies were way to hung up on their world beating team filled with stars for too long and forgot that one day they were going to retire! The Aussies usually are top notch at developing youth and being the top at the majority of sports, but they really dropped the ball on this one.

How much of a great influence would those old boys have had on the odd younger player being included in the match squad more often.
 
Congrats on the Test win. Finally are we seeing the end of Aussie era? Like the Great West Inidan team, Aussies dominated cricket for so long, it would be best for the game if you lot win 4-0.
 
I'm sure that they'll be many that would disagree but I would like to see shahzad in for broad. I think tremlett would be a like for like replacement more for finn and I don't think that Bresnan is good enough against the aussies, underperforming or not.
 
when i posted earlier in the thread that the only chances the Aussies would have is to bring back retired old boys i was joking!!

the Aussie press according to SkySports are requesting Warne to make a return to proffesional cricket XD

how desperate and how frickin funny!!!!!! XD
 
Q: What's the Australian cricket team's version of LBW?

A: Lost, Beaten, Walloped
 
Ok, if you all fancy a laugh. Read this page. It is an Australian newspaper online site. That is a link to player profiles. For a decent laugh, find Alistair Cook and read their thoughts on him. Best bit was, without a doubt, "Australia have always felt they have had his measure." LOL, how about now my dear convicts?

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Congrats on the Test win. Finally are we seeing the end of Aussie era? Like the Great West Inidan team, Aussies dominated cricket for so long, it would be best for the game if you lot win 4-0.

But if this is the end for the Aussies, will you have a prolonged slump like the WIndies have?
 
Australia team news for 3rd test.

Phil Hughes replaces injured Simon Katich

Steven Smith replaces Marcus North (chosen for batting quality not spinning ability)

Michael Johnson replaces Doug Bollinger

Michael Beer replaces Xavier Doherty (a totally unknown quantity in international cricket)

Some real desperate decisions made there by the Aussies, last throw of the dice from a broken team IMO.

England limited overs squad news

Call up for Warwickshire Bear Chris Woakes (great decision he is class)

Squad
Strauss (captain for ODI)
Collingwood (captain for T20)
James Anderson
Ian Bell
Tim Bresnan
Steven Davies WK
Eoin Morgan
Craig Keiswetter WK (t20 only)
Kevin Pietersen
Ajmal Shazad
Graeme Swann
James Tredwell
Chris Tremlett
Jonathan Trott
Chris Woakes
Luke Wright
Michael Yardy
 
Well let's not get carried away. Phil Hughes is quality if mentally fragile, and I have a sneaking suspicion he might do well in his own conditions. Steve Smith is the "next Shane Warne", but then again every fat blonde leggie gets that tagged to him. Johnson is out of form, but can always come up with the random brutal spell. Beer really is an unknown quantity, but then so were Boon, Marsh, Waugh, Warne, Merv Hughes, McDermott, Peter Taylor (the list goes on) when they were first picked. Do not underestimate them, especially as the Aussies are employing Chappell's expert eye as a selector again.

Good to see Woakes called up, I am a fan.
 
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Beer is the lad that Warne has been tipping apparently, so he must be decent. He picked up 4 or 5 wickets domestically this week so he's got some form.

But from what you said Hughes, and Johnson both lacking in confidence, and with the atmosphere in the dressing room atm, they could just drown. Although i do agree that they also can produce the goods!! Both real decent players on their day.

IMO though i dont think it matters who they play, we are still more than good enough to take the ashes home with us regardless. It is all on us to win the series, its up to them not to lose it.
 
Australia team news for 3rd test.

Phil Hughes replaces injured Simon Katich

Steven Smith replaces Marcus North (chosen for batting quality not spinning ability)

Michael Johnson replaces Doug Bollinger

Michael Beer replaces Xavier Doherty (a totally unknown quantity in international cricket)

Some real desperate decisions made there by the Aussies, last throw of the dice from a broken team IMO.

England limited overs squad news

Call up for Warwickshire Bear Chris Woakes (great decision he is class)

Squad
Strauss (captain for ODI)
Collingwood (captain for T20)
James Anderson
Ian Bell
Tim Bresnan
Steven Davies WK
Eoin Morgan
Craig Keiswetter WK (t20 only)
Kevin Pietersen
Ajmal Shazad
Graeme Swann
James Tredwell
Chris Tremlett
Jonathan Trott
Chris Woakes
Luke Wright
Michael Yardy

Thought Mitchell had an unheard of brother. I don't understand why they're dropping Bollinger, he didn't bowl great but he's been injured that was his first game. Why drop Mitchell for one game, then bring him back for the next. I almost got my predictions right, no idea who this Beer is though. Smith is a good bat but he's not going to score test match hundreds just yet, so I frown on that decision. So yeah, can't see many improvements...

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Beer is the lad that Warne has been tipping apparently, so he must be decent. He picked up 4 or 5 wickets domestically this week so he's got some form.

But from what you said Hughes, and Johnson both lacking in confidence, and with the atmosphere in the dressing room atm, they could just drown. Although i do agree that they also can produce the goods!! Both real decent players on their day.

IMO though i dont think it matters who they play, we are still more than good enough to take the ashes home with us regardless. It is all on us to win the series, its up to them not to lose it.
Let's put it simply we only need to win one more test or draw two more and we've regained the ashes. I know it is way to premature but there is only winner this year.
 
Let's put it simply we only need to win one more test or draw two more and we've regained the ashes. I know it is way to premature but there is only winner this year.

Agreed, If we lose now it would be horrible, I just wish I knew more australians to wind up!

Australia seem to be in disarray, with moral low and possible fractures in the team. However I think that australia bringing different bowlers, especially untested ones could be exactly what they need. They'll be unknown quantities, who will also be happy to be in the side which should raise moral and give us something different to think about.

but for now

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