The Carlos Tevez thread

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GodCubed said:
Read it again, Calum. Last season's was Ashley Young. This season is the 2011-12 season, and the calendar has Nathan Delfouneso on it for March. Now we've cleared that up, let's move on.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/15124902.stm

^ Ever classy.
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About as surprising as...erm...oh I don't know. The more he's speaking, the more he's showing himself to be the epic tosspot that he is.

Nice user title btw lol
 
"I really think at this point Tevez will be sold during the next market window,” Tirri revealed.

"Where will he end up? I think the hypothesis is not currently viable at Inter: Inter do not need him, they have already forwards like Forlan, Milito, Pazzini, Zarate and Castaignos.

"The same is true when it comes to Real Madrid. More plausible is the road to Juventus which would certainly be more convenient.

"Do not discard the possibility that he could still stay in England and maybe return to United."
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Agent Confirms Tevez Could Make Stunning Man United Return
 
Why would United want him? When he rejected them to move to their rivals. Seems stupid.
 
Stupid from his agent just to stir up **** mentioning United. But move to Juventus is not unrealistic imo.
 
Dunc said:
Why would United want him? When he rejected them to move to their rivals. Seems stupid.
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They wouldn't, SAF backed Mancini over the issue, United fans don't like him much overall anyway and a good number I know have sided with City over this. We'd take him back when **** freezes over. Also Ferguson hates his agent Kia.
 
To say Tevez will be back at United, will be like saying all Everton fans would welcome back Nick Barmby with open arms. Never ever happen.
 
Dunc said:
I know, I was more reacting in disbelief at what Kia had just said lol.
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Kia is not his agent if I'm not wrong. He is not licensed agent so he is just a adviser.

This whole article is based on
[h=3]according to agent Peppino Tirri,[/h]
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Dont know who this Tirri is.
 
sunilvk7 said:
Kia is not his agent if I'm not wrong. He is not licensed agent so he is just a adviser.

This whole article is based on


Dont know who this Tirri is.
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IIRC he is the agent who took part in the deal that saw Eto'o to Anzhi. He also did Sneijder to Inter, Figo to Inter, Cicinho to Real Madrid, Gravesen to Real Madrid and others.
 
DMF said:
IIRC he is the agent who took part in the deal that saw Eto'o to Anzhi. He also did Sneijder to Inter, Figo to Inter, Cicinho to Real Madrid, Gravesen to Real Madrid and others.
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Read somewhere that Kia is not licensed agent and FA dont allow non licensed ones to involve in any deals. So for Tevez he is a agent but he is more like a adviser and someone else act as agent.

Maybe wrong I'm not sure.

Edit: Thought you were talking about Kia,
 
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Tirri's ties are predominately based in Milan and the original directors of the Galactico's era at Madrid, I suppose it's not out of the question he could somehow manufacture Tevez a move to Real Madrid. The question then becomes, how much faith does Jose Mourinho have in Benzema/Higuain? Zidane, director at Madrid now, has so much faith in Benzema that he even let Karim stay at his house to settle in. A few stumbles on that move for sure.

As for the move to Juventus, I highly doubt that will happen. Beppe's just re capped the wage structure at Juve from £110k a week to £95k a week, Tevez would annihilate that. The days of mega signings for Juve have gone, and being frank we really don't need another striker especially considering the investment in Matri. Apart from him being involved in acquiring Gabriel his ties to Turin are pretty meaningless...

Tirri is also the same guy who took a bung of £10 million to smooth over the Walter Samuel transfer to Inter Milan, he's hardly an angel which means it does not surprise me one bit he's siding with Kia and MSI who I know are still behind Carlos somewhere despite the original MSI company folding.

To put down the Juve rumor: Juve expect to generate £40m in pure profit's this season with the new stadium, when you factor in Conte and Beppe's vision of building a squad it's hard to see them buying Tevez on £11 million a year.

Bit of difficulty in the Anzhi move, one of the old 3 billionaire's that used to own a stake in Tevez is actually an exiled Russian billionaire who is one of Putin's fiercest rivals. Putin's backing is key to Anzhi, his idea is getting his billionaire's to give back to Russia's regions and Anzhi is the benchmark at the moment. You look at the fact that a Putin 'backed' (Although never proven) businessman tried to buy out Tevez 3 years ago when his future at United was unclear, and Kia Joorabchian essentially fobbed them off. It;s going to be difficult to say the least to broker that deal, he has a 10 million pound mansion in a Cheshire village with a fair few million in the bank I'm sure. If he really wanted to leave for the reasons he said, he would have taken the 75% paycut by now and gone off to live out his career in Argentina.

Problem is, Kia wouldn't be happy taking his cash cow away. That's the main bit I don't understand, he's not going to get any more money elsewhere in world football. Bank up the money for a year and cash in on the transfer next summer, that way Kia gets his money and Tevez gets his retirement.
 
Carlos Tevez faces record fine after Manchester City find him guilty
Club says player has a breach-of-contract case to answer
Argentinian indicates he will challenge the allegations
Carlos-Tevez-007.jpg
Carlos Tevez has imformed Manchester City that he is sticking to his story that it was a 'misunderstanding. Photograph: Carl Recine/Action Images
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Manchester City's dispute with Carlos Tevez is threatening to run until Christmas after the club's initial findings found him guilty of refusing to play against Bayern Munich, only for the player to indicate he would fight the allegation as far as possible and demand an apology from Roberto Mancini.
Tevez has told City he is sticking to his story that it was a "misunderstanding" and that he wants Mancini to retract his allegations and apologise for the damage to his reputation. City have refused point blank and are trying to convene a disciplinary hearing before the weekend on the grounds that Tevez has "a case to answer of alleged breaches of contract".

The striker will be informed at that meeting that not one of the players or coaches who have been interviewed as part of City's internal investigation has substantiated his claims about what happened in the Allianz Arena two weeks ago. On the contrary, every single statement has supported Mancini's case that the striker refused to go on as a second-half substitute, with City losing 2-0.

The club have already contacted the players' union, the Professional Footballers Association, to give it advance notice they want to invoke a punishment of a scale that, under guidelines introduced in 2005, will need the organisation's approval. This is likely to take the form of an additional four-week suspension to add to the fortnight Tevez has already served, plus a fine of six weeks' wages. Tevez's weekly salary of £250,000 would make it the largest a footballer in Britain has ever received. The striker intends to lodge an immediate appeal, to be held internally, and, if the case against him is upheld, he will take the matter to a second appeal via a specially convened panel organised by the Premier League. The potential delays, with legal representatives on both sides, mean it may not be until the end of the year before the process is finished.

In the meantime Tevez has been freed to resume training and will report for duty on Thursday in the belief that he will be allowed to rejoin Mancini's first-team squad. Instead Mancini plans to isolate the Argentinian who lifted the FA Cup in May. Tevez will have to train alone or with the youth-team players. This could potentially create problems should he decide to pursue a case of constructive dismissal but the animosity between player and manager has been exacerbated by Tevez's insistence on his return from Buenos Aires that Mancini owes him an apology. In return Tevez was willing to accept he had refused at one point to warm up and to issue an apology of his own. Mancini refused and will not budge.

The club believe there is irrefutable evidence against Tevez from not just the witness statements but also his TV interview directly after the match, when he admitted not being in the right frame of mind to play.
The disciplinary hearing will be chaired by a senior club official, possibly the football administrator, Brian Marwood, or the acting chief executive, John MacBeath, and will go ahead next week if it cannot be arranged in the next 48 hours.

Tevez will be informed the initial review, conducted by City's HR and legal departments, did not accept his explanation and that it constituted gross misconduct. City have decided cancelling Tevez's contract would be excessive – a ruling the PFA agrees with - but the latest events indicate he has no chance of playing for the club before being made available in the January transfer window.

The Tevez saga comes at a bad time for Mancini, however, with Sergio Agüero almost certainly out of Saturday's game at home to Aston Villa. Agüero is hoping to return from a groin injury against Villarreal on Tuesday, though the diagnosis on Mario Balotelli is better and the back issues that forced him to withdraw from international duty with Italy will not keep him out against Villa.



 
Mike. said:
Carlos Tevez faces record fine after Manchester City find him guilty
Club says player has a breach-of-contract case to answer
Argentinian indicates he will challenge the allegations
Carlos-Tevez-007.jpg
Carlos Tevez has imformed Manchester City that he is sticking to his story that it was a 'misunderstanding. Photograph: Carl Recine/Action Images
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Manchester City's dispute with Carlos Tevez is threatening to run until Christmas after the club's initial findings found him guilty of refusing to play against Bayern Munich, only for the player to indicate he would fight the allegation as far as possible and demand an apology from Roberto Mancini.
Tevez has told City he is sticking to his story that it was a "misunderstanding" and that he wants Mancini to retract his allegations and apologise for the damage to his reputation. City have refused point blank and are trying to convene a disciplinary hearing before the weekend on the grounds that Tevez has "a case to answer of alleged breaches of contract".

The striker will be informed at that meeting that not one of the players or coaches who have been interviewed as part of City's internal investigation has substantiated his claims about what happened in the Allianz Arena two weeks ago. On the contrary, every single statement has supported Mancini's case that the striker refused to go on as a second-half substitute, with City losing 2-0.

The club have already contacted the players' union, the Professional Footballers Association, to give it advance notice they want to invoke a punishment of a scale that, under guidelines introduced in 2005, will need the organisation's approval. This is likely to take the form of an additional four-week suspension to add to the fortnight Tevez has already served, plus a fine of six weeks' wages. Tevez's weekly salary of £250,000 would make it the largest a footballer in Britain has ever received. The striker intends to lodge an immediate appeal, to be held internally, and, if the case against him is upheld, he will take the matter to a second appeal via a specially convened panel organised by the Premier League. The potential delays, with legal representatives on both sides, mean it may not be until the end of the year before the process is finished.

In the meantime Tevez has been freed to resume training and will report for duty on Thursday in the belief that he will be allowed to rejoin Mancini's first-team squad. Instead Mancini plans to isolate the Argentinian who lifted the FA Cup in May. Tevez will have to train alone or with the youth-team players. This could potentially create problems should he decide to pursue a case of constructive dismissal but the animosity between player and manager has been exacerbated by Tevez's insistence on his return from Buenos Aires that Mancini owes him an apology. In return Tevez was willing to accept he had refused at one point to warm up and to issue an apology of his own. Mancini refused and will not budge.

The club believe there is irrefutable evidence against Tevez from not just the witness statements but also his TV interview directly after the match, when he admitted not being in the right frame of mind to play.
The disciplinary hearing will be chaired by a senior club official, possibly the football administrator, Brian Marwood, or the acting chief executive, John MacBeath, and will go ahead next week if it cannot be arranged in the next 48 hours.

Tevez will be informed the initial review, conducted by City's HR and legal departments, did not accept his explanation and that it constituted gross misconduct. City have decided cancelling Tevez's contract would be excessive – a ruling the PFA agrees with - but the latest events indicate he has no chance of playing for the club before being made available in the January transfer window.

The Tevez saga comes at a bad time for Mancini, however, with Sergio Agüero almost certainly out of Saturday's game at home to Aston Villa. Agüero is hoping to return from a groin injury against Villarreal on Tuesday, though the diagnosis on Mario Balotelli is better and the back issues that forced him to withdraw from international duty with Italy will not keep him out against Villa.
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I wanted to laugh til I cried at that bit. Good god he's got a nerve. The head of the PFA said there's a very good chance he could be sacked.
 
Erect a huge poster of Tevez welcoming people to the city of Manchester, classy!

I should think Sir Alex is laughing ever time he see's it!

Your owners don't need the money, make him sit out his contract without playing another game, otherwise he wins!
 
Tevez has been charged for refusing to warm up, but NOT for refusing to play. Interesting
 
I reckon he'll go quite cheap in the January window, they won't be able to get 40 mil for him now.
 
Statement just released re: Carlos Tevez

Manchester City Football Club can confirm that a disciplinary hearing has been concluded in relation to a charge of misconduct by Carlos Tevez.

The charge relates to events during the Champions League match against Bayern Munich on 27 September 2011.
Following a detailed investigation and associated hearing, a disciplinary panel has upheld the charge of misconduct. Five separate breaches of contract formed the basis of the decision by the panel.
As a result Carlos Tevez has been fined four weeks’ wages and has been suspended for a period of two weeks (deemed to have already been served). He has received a written warning as to his future conduct.
Carlos Tevez has been informed in writing of the decision of the disciplinary panel, and the Club has written to the Professional Footballers Association for ratification of the fine. The five contractual obligations found by the disciplinary panel to have been breached are:
1. An obligation to participate in any matches in which the player is selected to play for the club when directed by a Club official.
2. An obligation to undertake such other duties and to participate in such other activities as are consistent with the performance of the player’s duties and as are reasonably required of him.
3. An obligation to comply with and act in accordance with all lawful instructions of any authorised official of the Club.
4. An obligation to observe the statutes and regulations of FIFA and UEFA, the FA Rules, the League Rules, the Code of Practice and the Club rules, including but not limited to breach of Rule E3(1) of the FA Rules (obligation on the player all times to act in the best interests of the game and not act in any manner which is improper or which brings the game into disrepute).
5. An obligation not to knowingly or recklessly do anything or omit to do anything which is likely to bring the Club or the game of football into disrepute or cause the player or the Club to be in breach of the Rules (as defined in the contract) or cause damage to the Club.
Carlos Tevez has the right to appeal this decision to the Board of the Club. Any appeal must be made within 14 days.

(As paraphrased on the Manchester City Website)

Which says to me......he's free to play again. Has Mancini softened up or something and just moved on? Or is Tevez still on the way out? More questions than answers.

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ajt09 said:
Statement just released re: Carlos Tevez

Manchester City Football Club can confirm that a disciplinary hearing has been concluded in relation to a charge of misconduct by Carlos Tevez.

The charge relates to events during the Champions League match against Bayern Munich on 27 September 2011.
Following a detailed investigation and associated hearing, a disciplinary panel has upheld the charge of misconduct. Five separate breaches of contract formed the basis of the decision by the panel.
As a result Carlos Tevez has been fined four weeks’ wages and has been suspended for a period of two weeks (deemed to have already been served). He has received a written warning as to his future conduct.
Carlos Tevez has been informed in writing of the decision of the disciplinary panel, and the Club has written to the Professional Footballers Association for ratification of the fine. The five contractual obligations found by the disciplinary panel to have been breached are:
1. An obligation to participate in any matches in which the player is selected to play for the club when directed by a Club official.
2. An obligation to undertake such other duties and to participate in such other activities as are consistent with the performance of the player’s duties and as are reasonably required of him.
3. An obligation to comply with and act in accordance with all lawful instructions of any authorised official of the Club.
4. An obligation to observe the statutes and regulations of FIFA and UEFA, the FA Rules, the League Rules, the Code of Practice and the Club rules, including but not limited to breach of Rule E3(1) of the FA Rules (obligation on the player all times to act in the best interests of the game and not act in any manner which is improper or which brings the game into disrepute).
5. An obligation not to knowingly or recklessly do anything or omit to do anything which is likely to bring the Club or the game of football into disrepute or cause the player or the Club to be in breach of the Rules (as defined in the contract) or cause damage to the Club.
Carlos Tevez has the right to appeal this decision to the Board of the Club. Any appeal must be made within 14 days.

(As paraphrased on the Manchester City Website)

Which says to me......he's free to play again. Has Mancini softened up or something and just moved on? Or is Tevez still on the way out? More questions than answers.

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4 week fine and a 2 week suspension? Not very strict. Looks as though he is free to play again but I would be very surprised if he will. It's not as if City lack quality up front now and he is more trouble than he is worth.
 
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