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That assist by Nilmar :wub: and the movement by Rossi...
Trabzon replace Fenerbahce in CL
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******* Turkish FA.
At least you didn't get Liam Miller's name on a shirt... or David Bellion's signature :L
Bogarde was a complete ******* though
Champions League draw: Manchester City face tough introduction
• Pots set up potential City, Barça, Milan, Dortmund group
• Arsenal in among top seeds after play-off victory
Sergio Agüero and Manchester City await what could be a mouthwatering draw for the group stage. Photograph: Alex Livesey/Getty Images
Arsenal will join the top seeds in the Champions League draw on Thursday afternoon following their victory over Udinese but Manchester City face a tough introduction to life in Europe's elite club competition. Roberto Mancini's side are among the group of third seeds, meaning a potential draw with Barcelona, Milan and Borussia Dortmund.
The other English clubs in the Champions League draw are all among the top seeds, alongside Barcelona, Real Madrid, Inter, Porto andBayern Munich. Trabzonspor complete the line-up in pot four afterFenerbahce were withdrawn by the Turkish Football Federation due to an ongoing match-fixing investigation.
Mancini has made it clear he intends to rotate his squad to ensure the side are capable of challenging in Europe and the three domestic competitions. "[Rotating] is no problem for me," said the City manager. "The problem is if you don't have good players. For the manager it is not easy because all the players want to play every game. But when you play in four competitions and have a match every three days, there is space for everyone. It is impossible to play a top game every three days. And the Champions League is very hard. It is different from the Europa League. For this we need a good team, with good players and a good mentality."
Uefa's rules for the draw will see the 32 qualified teams allocated into eight groups of four teams. Each group will contain a top seed, plus one club each from the second, third and fourth pots. Each pot is determined by a club's Uefa ranking and the top two in each group will go through to the knockout phase of the Champions League, and the third-place side to the knockout phase of the Europa League.
Pots for the Champions League draw
Pot one: Man Utd, Barcelona, Chelsea, Bayern Munich, Arsenal, Real Madrid, Porto, Inter.
Pot two: Shakhtar Donetsk, Lyon, Villarreal, Milan, Valencia, Marseille,CSKA Moscow, Benfica.
Pot three: Zenit St Petersburg, Man City, Olympiakos, Ajax, Bayer Leverkusen, Basle, Lille, BATE.
Pot four: Borussia Dortmund, Dinamo Zagreb, Napoli, Apoel, Genk, Trabzonspor, Otelul Galati, Viktoria Plzen.
• Follow the Champions League draw live on guardian.co.uk/football from 5pm.
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• Pots set up potential City, Barça, Milan, Dortmund group
• Arsenal in among top seeds after play-off victory
- Press Association
- guardian.co.uk, Thursday 25 August 2011 09.10 BST
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Sergio Agüero and Manchester City await what could be a mouthwatering draw for the group stage. Photograph: Alex Livesey/Getty Images
Arsenal will join the top seeds in the Champions League draw on Thursday afternoon following their victory over Udinese but Manchester City face a tough introduction to life in Europe's elite club competition. Roberto Mancini's side are among the group of third seeds, meaning a potential draw with Barcelona, Milan and Borussia Dortmund.
The other English clubs in the Champions League draw are all among the top seeds, alongside Barcelona, Real Madrid, Inter, Porto andBayern Munich. Trabzonspor complete the line-up in pot four afterFenerbahce were withdrawn by the Turkish Football Federation due to an ongoing match-fixing investigation.
Mancini has made it clear he intends to rotate his squad to ensure the side are capable of challenging in Europe and the three domestic competitions. "[Rotating] is no problem for me," said the City manager. "The problem is if you don't have good players. For the manager it is not easy because all the players want to play every game. But when you play in four competitions and have a match every three days, there is space for everyone. It is impossible to play a top game every three days. And the Champions League is very hard. It is different from the Europa League. For this we need a good team, with good players and a good mentality."
Uefa's rules for the draw will see the 32 qualified teams allocated into eight groups of four teams. Each group will contain a top seed, plus one club each from the second, third and fourth pots. Each pot is determined by a club's Uefa ranking and the top two in each group will go through to the knockout phase of the Champions League, and the third-place side to the knockout phase of the Europa League.
Pots for the Champions League draw
Pot one: Man Utd, Barcelona, Chelsea, Bayern Munich, Arsenal, Real Madrid, Porto, Inter.
Pot two: Shakhtar Donetsk, Lyon, Villarreal, Milan, Valencia, Marseille,CSKA Moscow, Benfica.
Pot three: Zenit St Petersburg, Man City, Olympiakos, Ajax, Bayer Leverkusen, Basle, Lille, BATE.
Pot four: Borussia Dortmund, Dinamo Zagreb, Napoli, Apoel, Genk, Trabzonspor, Otelul Galati, Viktoria Plzen.
• Follow the Champions League draw live on guardian.co.uk/football from 5pm.
Group A:
Bayern Munich
Villarreal
Manchester City
Napoli
Group B:
Inter Milan
CSKA Moscow
Lille
Trapzonspor
Group C:
Manchester United
Benfica
FC Basel
Otelul Galati
Group D:
Real Madrid
Olympique Lyonnais
Ajax
Dinamo Zagreb
Group E:
Chelsea
Valencia
Bayer Leverkusen
KRC Genk
Group F:
Arsenal
Marseille
Olympiakos
Borussia Dortmund
Group G:
FC Porto
Shakhtar Donetsk
Zenit
Apoel
Group H:
FC Barcelona
AC Milan
BATE Borisov
Viktoria Diznen
Bayern Munich
Villarreal
Manchester City
Napoli
Group B:
Inter Milan
CSKA Moscow
Lille
Trapzonspor
Group C:
Manchester United
Benfica
FC Basel
Otelul Galati
Group D:
Real Madrid
Olympique Lyonnais
Ajax
Dinamo Zagreb
Group E:
Chelsea
Valencia
Bayer Leverkusen
KRC Genk
Group F:
Arsenal
Marseille
Olympiakos
Borussia Dortmund
Group G:
FC Porto
Shakhtar Donetsk
Zenit
Apoel
Group H:
FC Barcelona
AC Milan
BATE Borisov
Viktoria Diznen
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Just a quick question - will teams be separated by nationality? For example, will Man City be drawn against Chelsea or will the fact they're both from England mean they will be kept apart?
Additionally, I think it's fair to say a nightmare group would be from pots two, three and four: Shakhtar, City and Dortmund.
Additionally, I think it's fair to say a nightmare group would be from pots two, three and four: Shakhtar, City and Dortmund.
uefa co efficients, arsenal's is very high considering they have been in it for 14 years running
No you cannot draw the same nationalities
Ah I see. I just assumed it would be done based on last year's league positions. Doh