Nick Chelsea
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I've always trusted Jose but this time he is wrong. He is destroying Mata. Literally.
I really think we need someone challenging Cole for the left back position. In my opinion he has been pretty average for at least a year and a half now seems to get skinned so easily. Would like to see Bertrand given more of a chance.
I've always trusted Jose but this time he is wrong. He is destroying Mata. Literally.
Totally agree, i'd love to see more of Bertrand and what i have seen of him i do like alot.
I wouldn't really say that, media caused a massive stir over nothing whilst he was being rested as he has played almost constantly for 3 years now. Now he is back he is behind Oscar in the pecking order because Oscar has probably been our best player so far this season and Oscar offers more in his all round game than Mata.
I've always trusted Jose but this time he is wrong. He is destroying Mata. Literally.
Having slept on it, I'm going to reserve judgement. It really does come to which Jose this is, and I think it will be a pretty important factor when we look back on his legacy during this second term.
He's going to be one of two Joses. The first is the petty one that I don't think any of us want to see. This is the one that tried to gouge Tito Vilanova's eyes, the one that divided the Madrid dressing room, the one that is marginalising Azipi and Mata because of their nationality not their skill. He is the one that favours physicality and work rate over technical skill, and would rather field Oscar for those reasons. He's the one that produced the football so famously described as **** on a stick.
Or, he's going to be the Jose who pushes his players. The one that transformed Joe Cole, the one that inspired Snjeider and Oezil, the one that knows how to get the very best from what's available to him. This is the Jose that sees how unbalanced the team had become by being focussed almost purely around Mata and how tactically useful Oscar is.
We'll have to wait and see.
The problem i have with Mata "wide" is that it isn't actually wide is it. We have very little natural width as it is so to put Mata wide would make us even more narrow. I personally think if and this is a big if Jose is here more than 2 seasons then Mata will be sold.
Oscar is nowhere near (?) as creative as Mata. He might be better defensively and positionally, but Mata is the best number 10 in the league. I cannot understand his decision. It's mental. Let's see how we proceed but I am 101% convinced if Mata is given his best and most comfortable position, and most importantly, given a regular chance, we will start creating more chances and score more goals as a result.
Having slept on it, I'm going to reserve judgement. It really does come to which Jose this is, and I think it will be a pretty important factor when we look back on his legacy during this second term.
He's going to be one of two Joses. The first is the petty one that I don't think any of us want to see. This is the one that tried to gouge Tito Vilanova's eyes, the one that divided the Madrid dressing room, the one that is marginalising Azipi and Mata because of their nationality not their skill. He is the one that favours physicality and work rate over technical skill, and would rather field Oscar for those reasons. He's the one that produced the football so famously described as **** on a stick.
Or, he's going to be the Jose who pushes his players. The one that transformed Joe Cole, the one that inspired Snjeider and Oezil, the one that knows how to get the very best from what's available to him. This is the Jose that sees how unbalanced the team had become by being focussed almost purely around Mata and how tactically useful Oscar is.
We'll have to wait and see.
I think if he is continualy marginalised you could have an issue as early as january. Mata is genuinely one of footballs nice guys, but its a world cup year, and he has serious competition.
He may be our best number 10 but Jose prefers Oscar right now and Oscar has not been a problem in our side has he? We had what 21 shots against Everton is that a lack of creation? 23 shots against Hull too.
I am not so big fan of stats but we can very easily compare the two and see who is the better creator. Even Hazard is a better creator than Oscar, and Hazard is not bad at being a 10 either.
Come on Carl, you know how things are. We are not talking about who Jose prefers, we are talking about who can solve our problems in the final third, or in other words, who is the better player for that position. We have been lacking edge exactly in the final third.
Lukaku already showing why we should have kept him
I'd say Jose knows what he's doing. The reason you've been lacking edge in the final third isn't your attacking midfielders, it's - predictably - a crop of inadequate strikers. Your approach play is good: put, say, Radamel Falcao into that team and you'll score craptons of goals. It's just that 2013 Eto'o and Torres and Demba Ba full stop aren't good enough for your needs.
But quite cleary Jose wanted a mobile forward who would work the channels and link up play with the attacking mids as well as open space for them by dragging defenders around. Hence, the prolonged chase for Rooney who fits this profile perfectly. Isn't Falcao more of a penalty box predator rather that someone to link up play and rely on intelligent movement outside the box?
Thing is, it ain't about a lack of creation. You have, as Carl pointed out, created plenty of chances. It's a simple lack of finishing ability. Put Mata in the team and you maybe create more chances and lose quite a bit of the defensive ability Oscar shows, but those two sort of cancel out, and you don't really gain much at all.
I'd say Jose knows what he's doing. The reason you've been lacking edge in the final third isn't your attacking midfielders, it's - predictably - a crop of inadequate strikers. Your approach play is good: put, say, Radamel Falcao into that team and you'll score craptons of goals. It's just that 2013 Eto'o and Torres and Demba Ba full stop aren't good enough for your needs.