That story is bs... Mourinho just said we are 100% not buying a striker this window and directly rejected the Higuan speculation saying Napoli will never sell considering they are pushing to win Serie A and Higuan is a very important player
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That story is bs... Mourinho just said we are 100% not buying a striker this window and directly rejected the Higuan speculation saying Napoli will never sell considering they are pushing to win Serie A and Higuan is a very important player
if you can find a striker who doesn't fit into a teams tactics yet manages to score 20 goals a season, I think Chelsea should sack all their scouts and hire you
if you can find a striker who doesn't fit into a teams tactics yet manages to score 20 goals a season, I think Chelsea should sack all their scouts and hire you
I like how you ignore it all and just have a little sarcastic dig.
You'll never find a perfect striker because Drogba isn't around anymore, you had the next best thing in Lukaku but let him go out on loan.
Had the chance to sign Higuain, yet went for a washed up eto who fits your "system" even less than I would. You keep going on about tactics and systems and that's why Chelsea can't buy any strikers, it's a silly argument to make when you have a team that has no real strikers.
This x 1000
Falcao and Cavani would have been better fits than Eto'o. **** Cavani is a hard working finisher who can bring people in to play. Totally wrong for oh.. yeah probably should have sold Mata and helped fund that deal....which is what Jose was told by the club originally( that he might have to part fund major deals with sales).
You are not understanding my point either... Why should we pay huge money and huge wages for a striker who will essentially be a square peg in a round hole? If you are spending ?50m and offering huge wages to boot to a player, you will like to make sure that he is absolutely perfect for the system you intend to use him in. Agreed that Falcao, Cavani or anyone else would likely score more goals for us than our current lot, not saying much mind you, but they will still prove to be poor value for money at the end of the day because they will likely not score much more than our current lot yet cost much much more than our current lot
We made a huge mistake with Torres which really I feel makes people around the club think twice before splashing out that kind of money. Otherwise, I guarentee Falcao would be wearing blue today
We DID go for Cavani but were outbid by PSG. Since we are serious about complying with FFP and considering the huge flop that our last big money signing proved, financial prudence also has to play a part. We could have sold Mata agreed and isn't that what we supposedly tried to do in that swap deal for Rooney? A striker who would be absolutely perfect for our system unlike Cavani who would be a good fit nonetheless
There is no player like Drogba, there is not 100% perfect fit. Sorry but they would be scoring a lot more than your lot, considering Welbeck has scored more league goals than all your strikers. Combined. Are you honestly trying to say none of these players would score at least 20 league goals a season? And then bag another 10 or so in cups? Along with their link up play? You are not going to buy any top forward on the cheap.
You weren't outbid. you simply refused to go any higher. and by selling Mata, you could have maintained FFP. 53m for Cavani, 30m sale from mata (hypothetical but realistic value)
Will you seriously stop with the squad pegs and round holes, no player is ever going to be absolutely perfect and to expect to find a world class player that is, is ridiculous.
Cavani was about as close to perfect as you'd get, Falcao and Higuin are pretty **** good too, all were up for grabs and you had the means to get them in selling what is surplus to requirements in Mata. You talk about poor value for money yet the club shells out massive amounts for creative midfielders and no one complains, yet the one thing the club requires the most and it's suddenly a case of can't find the perfect player.
Falcao, Higuin, Cavani and probably a fair few enough top class strikers out there would have helped Chelsea out way more than Willian, Shurrle, Mata, Eto this season...
The mistake you made with Torres was signing him when you did, right after coming back from his injury and he looked nothing like he was before it. Liverpool broke him and sold him to you for 50mil.
And imagine the massive outcry from the supporters if we sold Mata? An outcry that will only be sated if the new player who came in produced at the same level. Cavani is a great player but untried in the EPL and would likely command a huge value in transfer fees unlike Rooney with matching wages to boot ... He can just as easily flop as Torres did. Much rather exchange Mata for a player like Rooney who has much less chance of flopping as he is tried in the EPL and would not command a huge transfer fee
Being tried in the PL doesn't guarantee success, nor does being untried make it necessarily harder. Every transfer is a gamble. That deal wasn't happening from pretty early on. You think Mata is having a bigger impact that Cavani or Falcao would have?
I am not saying a player should be perfect ... You completely misinterpret the whole analogy. All I am saying is that if we are spending 50m and 200k p/w wages on a striker, we should ensure he can play in our system well. Why do you think we did not sign Falcao? It is well documented that Mourinho has doubts over his link-up player. We DID try to sign Cavani but were simply outbid/Napoli's asking price was too high and after the massive failure of our last big money signing, I highly doubt the club was willing to make such a huge gamble again
What massive amounts? You are only saying that because we have so many of them. Hazard, Oscar and Schurrle were necessary signings. The only unecessary signing was Willian but hey... He has turned out to be class and helped us win games and it was good fun trolling Spurs all the same
Notjing guarentee's success. But their is a higher chance that Rooney will be a success than Cavani. Everything in football is a gamble ... Not sure what you are trying to prove by this. No mata isn't having a bigger impact but I am more comfortable with having a world-class player like him on the bench than spending 50m and 200k p/w on strikers who may turn out to be complete flops and have Torres-like impact on our performances at the end of the day ... Chances of that happening are pretty high I might add
I apologise if some of my replies we condescending or sarcastic but I am really confused by this argument ... You lot are basically advocating that we sell a world-class player in Mata so that we can reinvest that money in a striker who has no experience in the EPL and would cost a ton of money in transfer fee and wages and bet that he will bang in 30 goals to justify that massive outlay in a system that doesn't suit him well ... I am not Roman but if I was paying the bills, I would surely want better odds than that
Considering your 3 targets are doing well at their new clubs, all in different leagues, chances are really not that high at all.
There are no better odds, especially when the system does suit them and said world class player isn't even being ultilised!
Not for Falcao. Perhaps for Cavani but we already had this discussion on why selling Mata to get Cavani is a hugely risky move ... We did however probably attempt the manoveur you lot are advocating by offering Man Utd a swap deal in the summer which didn't pan out for whatever reason ... So you see, it's not like Chelsea are purposefully refusing to sell Mata, they are more than likely being conservative and playing the odds after the Torres fiasco
Rooney/Mata swap deal didn't pan out because utd will never sell a good player to title rivals even if it means getting another good player in return.
Just thought i'd jump into this debate and chuck my thoughts in. The strikers we have are currently good enough to get us top 4 (probably higher). We have sent our young lad who could/should one day be world class on a final crash course so he comes back a more complete player in what is and people keep forgetting this "a long term plan". One thing which people also seem to forget is that the lack of striker goals go back further than this season, in Drogba's last season yes the Champions League and FA Cup double winning season Drogba scored 5 league goals! The problem for me is an unbalance in the team especially when we play 4-2-3-1, for 24 months now i have been saying how desperate we are for a deep lying playmaker, someone who will start counter attacks from deep inevitably giving the service to our strikers earlier. When Torres has a good game for us its when we look at our best counter attacking wise because he gets the ball early either over the top or in the channels and its no coincidence.
You could have Falcao, Cavani, Ibrahimovic, Higuain, Pele, Ronaldo (the Brazilian one) or any other top forward in the squad it wouldn't matter that much in my opinion. Again i reiterate this is a long term plan, Jose has a while to sort this team out and buy the correct players so we have 11 square pegs in 11 round holes and when he finally does that which may take 12-18 months to complete then we could dominate or if not dominate then be there or there abouts for many more years.
On the whole Mata the amount of not just out side fans but Chelsea fans who no longer than a month ago who were slamming Jose for leaving him out was comical. 4 week later and he has proven just why he has decided that Mata is not one of his major starters. Stepping aside from that Mata will stay until the summer i am almost sure of that, when he was at his best for us the previous 2 season he wasn't starting for Spain then so playing reguarly or not nothing is going to change in that regards. He may very well go in the summer but not to another Premier League side i think we can all agree on that.
You could have Falcao, Cavani, Ibrahimovic, Higuain, Pele, Ronaldo (the Brazilian one) or any other top forward in the squad it wouldn't matter that much in my opinion. Again i reiterate this is a long term plan, Jose has a while to sort this team out and buy the correct players so we have 11 square pegs in 11 round holes and when he finally does that which may take 12-18 months to complete then we could dominate or if not dominate then be there or there abouts for many more years.
On the whole Mata the amount of not just out side fans but Chelsea fans who no longer than a month ago who were slamming Jose for leaving him out was comical. 4 week later and he has proven just why he has decided that Mata is not one of his major starters. Stepping aside from that Mata will stay until the summer i am almost sure of that, when he was at his best for us the previous 2 season he wasn't starting for Spain then so playing reguarly or not nothing is going to change in that regards. He may very well go in the summer but not to another Premier League side i think we can all agree on that.