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No Sunil, I am pretty sure a man as smart as Roman has a plan to make us break even otherwise he wont be doing all this mindless spending, do u guys think even for one second that he will risk us falling out of the Champions League which would mean that he may lose tons of cash, he also loves this club as much as ever and is willing to shell out his won money so we do well

I trust he has a plan, its impossible that someone who has done so well in his field does not

He's done well in his field of a corrupt oil business. That's a completely different thing to a football business. Would you expect him to be incredibly successful in the textiles industry too? All that experience of drilling for oil will surely be inherently useful to design a new clothes line!

Many Chelsea fans also just love to rip on United and the Glazers' ownership. But they're successful businessmen, so that logic fails.

You're also not the only club spending big now. Almost everyone is so they can get their signings in on time, so the fact you are as well as indicative of nothing.
 
So... Chelsea fans aren't worried because they're confident not that they'll actually be able to pass them, but because they think they won't be punished and Roman will "find a way around it". What a great model to follow. Cue corruption conspiracy theories if you can't break even properly and have to try something else, rather less legal.


dont be naive Joss, how many billionaires can u name who have not done something shady to get where they are today

Mukesh and Anil Ambani, two of the richest people in the world and their father Dhirubhai Ambani exploited numerous loopholes in the system, when their is a loophole you exploit it and if you dont, ur stuck holding ur **** while others get ahead of u, dont be naive and think everyone will play by the rules
 
This is a Chelsea thread, so let's stay on topic. Does anyone think they can realistically get Neymar this summer?
 
You are just speculating my friend, we are really in so much **** why does Roman still splash 70m of his cash on 2 players in January and is supposedly backing AVB with a huge transfer kitty this summer, its simple really, he has a plan and since he likes to win so much I am pretty sure that plan whatever it is will mean we can still challenge for trophies year after year

If you lot think he would renege on us right before the FFP starts then who would buy us anyways, he would make a major loss if anyone does buy us

Only time will tell sunil but all my instincts tell me Roman has a plan and we will comply with the FFP one way or another

Ok.. You trust your owner and optimistic that he has a plan. I'm not saying it is bad, but UEFA are not dumb and Platini and UEFA's reputation is on line with this rule. If this fail then they will be laughing stock of Europe.. They will try to cut down every possible short cut. I'm sure about that..

Anyways will leave this at here, as you are optimistic about the chances and I think you need lot to do to break even..Only time will tell :)
 
dont be naive Joss, how many billionaires can u name who have not done something shady to get where they are today

Mukesh and Anil Ambani, two of the richest people in the world and their father Dhirubhai Ambani exploited numerous loopholes in the system, when their is a loophole you exploit it and if you dont, ur stuck holding ur **** while others get ahead of u, dont be naive and think everyone will play by the rules

sigh, do you think Platini just naively plucked these rules out of the air? No, he have used the best and finest lawyers UEFA can afford to shore up these rules. Also do you realise that Roman is one of the biggest supporters of these rules? Funnily enough he does actually want some sustainability at Chelsea
 
He's done well in his field of a corrupt oil business. That's a completely different thing to a football business. Would you expect him to be incredibly successful in the textiles industry too? All that experience of drilling for oil will surely be inherently useful to design a new clothes line!

Many Chelsea fans also just love to rip on United and the Glazers' ownership. But they're successful businessmen, so that logic fails.

You're also not the only club spending big now. Almost everyone is so they can get their signings in on time, so the fact you are as well as indicative of nothing.


Ok mate if he is so corupt why has not anyone done anything about it, lets just say for the sake of saying that he is corrupt then that just means he has been incredibly smart not to get caught and lets face it, even if you are corrupt you dont earn billions by relying on corruption to push u forward

Maybe he doe not know about the football business but I for one refuse to believe that he would sanction big money transfers if we were in danger of not complying with the FFP

I am pretty sure we all agree he is not stupid, so if he is sanctioning big-money transfers it automatically means that he believes he can do so and still comply with the FFP...

And you gave a pretty bad example there of textiles and clothes as for a clothes lines there as this matter is strictly financial and I am sure Roman knows more than most in that area

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sigh, do you think Platini just naively plucked these rules out of the air? No, he have used the best and finest lawyers UEFA can afford to shore up these rules. Also do you realise that Roman is one of the biggest supporters of these rules? Funnily enough he does actually want some sustainability at Chelsea


most people here show me wiki articles of how corrupt Roman is in so and so and how he exploited so and so rules... and those rules were made by the Russian Government who would have had them shored up much more than UEFA according to me yet he exploited them

And yes if Roman is such a huge supporter of these rules, then surely that means he has a plan to comply with them.. I wont argue much here but all I am saying is that time will tell if he does and he surely does
 
dont be naive Joss, how many billionaires can u name who have not done something shady to get where they are today

Mukesh and Anil Ambani, two of the richest people in the world and their father Dhirubhai Ambani exploited numerous loopholes in the system, when their is a loophole you exploit it and if you dont, ur stuck holding ur **** while others get ahead of u, dont be naive and think everyone will play by the rules

You, the narrow-minded guy again.

There are loads of Billionaires, sir.

Mark Zuckerburg, Christy Walton & Family, Karl Albrecht, Jim Walton, Larry Page, Sergey Brin, Jeff Bezos, Michael Dell to name a few.

There are over 1000 Billionaires and you are saying every-one of them has done something shady? Get real.
 
Ok.. You trust your owner and optimistic that he has a plan. I'm not saying it is bad, but UEFA are not dumb and Platini and UEFA's reputation is on line with this rule. If this fail then they will be laughing stock of Europe.. They will try to cut down every possible short cut. I'm sure about that..

Anyways will leave this at here, as you are optimistic about the chances and I think you need lot to do to break even..Only time will tell :)

yes time will tell, I just think some of you are getting ahead of yourselves by thinking he wont break even in time and drop out of the Champions League and I trust my owner, no matter how many bad things we say about him we wont have been here without him today and I feel that if he does manage to make us comply with the FFP then he will surely be remembered as a great owner by us for many years to come :)
 
Ok mate if he is so corupt why has not anyone done anything about it, lets just say for the sake of saying that he is corrupt then that just means he has been incredibly smart not to get caught and lets face it, even if you are corrupt you dont earn billions by relying on corruption to push u forward

Maybe he doe not know about the football business but I for one refuse to believe that he would sanction big money transfers if we were in danger of not complying with the FFP

I am pretty sure we all agree he is not stupid, so if he is sanctioning big-money transfers it automatically means that he believes he can do so and still comply with the FFP...

And you gave a pretty bad example there of textiles and clothes as for a clothes lines there as this matter is strictly financial and I am sure Roman knows more than most in that area

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most people here show me wiki articles of how corrupt Roman is in so and so and how he exploited so and so rules... and those rules were made by the Russian Government who would have had them shored up much more than UEFA according to me yet he exploited them

And yes if Roman is such a huge supporter of these rules, then surely that means he has a plan to comply with them.. I wont argue much here but all I am saying is that time will tell if he does and he surely does

Firstly you should know that he didnt exploit the rules in Russia without the government noticing, they merely ignored it becuase they benefitted from him doing so.

Having a plan is no means of guarantee, which is the point everyone here is making. Roman is specualating to accumulate when it comes to these rules, which is essentially a calculated gamble, espeically when you look at the numbers
 
You, the narrow-minded guy again.

There are loads of Billionaires, sir.

Mark Zuckerburg, Christy Walton & Family, Karl Albrecht, Jim Walton, Larry Page, Sergey Brin, Jeff Bezos, Michael Dell to name a few.

There are over 1000 Billionaires and you are saying every-one of them has done something shady? Get real.


Dont feel like debating much with u cos u cant keep ur sniddy insults out of the way

PS: Watch Social Network and u will get a slice of Zuckerbergs shady past, there one of ur list is invaild already ;)

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Firstly you should know that he didnt exploit the rules in Russia without the government noticing, they merely ignored it becuase they benefitted from him doing so.

Having a plan is no means of guarantee, which is the point everyone here is making. Roman is specualating to accumulate when it comes to these rules, which is essentially a calculated gamble, espeically when you look at the numbers


yes it is gamble but its safe to say that it is a calculated one and not many people would take it if they are not sure it will succeed, as I said Mike time will tell but some of the members here are getting slightly ahead of themselevs by saying we will drop out of the CL cos we never complied with the FFP
 
Ok mate if he is so corupt why has not anyone done anything about it, lets just say for the sake of saying that he is corrupt then that just means he has been incredibly smart not to get caught and lets face it, even if you are corrupt you dont earn billions by relying on corruption to push u forward

Maybe he doe not know about the football business but I for one refuse to believe that he would sanction big money transfers if we were in danger of not complying with the FFP

I am pretty sure we all agree he is not stupid, so if he is sanctioning big-money transfers it automatically means that he believes he can do so and still comply with the FFP...

And you gave a pretty bad example there of textiles and clothes as for a clothes lines there as this matter is strictly financial and I am sure Roman knows more than most in that area
Because it's politics, in Russia. That's why he gets away with it. Roman Abramovich - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The FFP rules are relating to your past and lack of potential future growth in your business. As I said, everyone is spending now so that they avoid doing it during the FFP era. To claim you're safe just because you're spending now means nothing, your wages are sky high, your revenues can't sustain it, you have no scope for future match day revenue increases, and your youth facilities aren't strong enough to subsidise a lack of player investment.

In other words, you can't disprove my analogy so you blindly dismiss it. Every business relies on finance, the logistics of any business differs greatly. There are people out there just as intelligent as Dear Roman, who are more than capable of reviewing accountancy books, so if you're saying that's all Roman needs to be good at, then you're dismissing your own argument that his business success means he is in a stronger position to control this situation.
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most people here show me wiki articles of how corrupt Roman is in so and so and how he exploited so and so rules... and those rules were made by the Russian Government who would have had them shored up much more than UEFA according to me yet he exploited them

And yes if Roman is such a huge supporter of these rules, then surely that means he has a plan to comply with them.. I wont argue much here but all I am saying is that time will tell if he does and he surely does

You don't know much about Russia, do you? They are led by a man who altered their whole political system from presidency to premiership so he could retain power longer than 8 years.
 
Dont feel like debating much with u cos u cant keep ur sniddy insults out of the way

PS: Watch Social Network and u will get a slice of Zuckerbergs shady past, there one of ur list is invaild already ;)

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yes it is gamble but its safe to say that it is a calculated one and not many people would take it if they are not sure it will succeed, as I said Mike time will tell but some of the members here are getting slightly ahead of themselevs by saying we will drop out of the CL cos we never complied with the FFP

Right now, you are significantly off complying with the FFP, and thats not me being a rival fan and saying so, thats coming of chelsea's own numbers. Roman has a big task ahead of him, like many euro clubs to be fair, and whatever he has planned must work very quickly and very well
 
Dont feel like debating much with u cos u cant keep ur sniddy insults out of the way

PS: Watch Social Network and u will get a slice of Zuckerbergs shady past, there one of ur list is invaild already ;)

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yes it is gamble but its safe to say that it is a calculated one and not many people would take it if they are not sure it will succeed, as I said Mike time will tell but some of the members here are getting slightly ahead of themselevs by saying we will drop out of the CL cos we never complied with the FFP

They are not insults just observations. You're not one of the people that believe everything you see in films are you? I do hope not. You have no valid points when making your argument. Just assumptions. "Roman will have a way round it", facts win arguments and you don't seem to have any. Your point about Billionaires and Shady background is just laughable. Please do some research on some Billionaires before saying such a thing, it's stupid.
 
They are not insults just observations. You're not one of the people that believe everything you see in films are you? I do hope not. You have no valid points when making your argument. Just assumptions. "Roman will have a way round it", facts win arguments and you don't seem to have any. Your point about Billionaires and Shady background is just laughable. Please do some research on some Billionaires before saying such a thing, it's stupid.


oh the film was pure fiction u do some research and find that the Wrinkeross twins did actually get paid by Zuckerberg an undisclosed fee and Eduardo Saverin is still an owner of Facebook even tho he sits on his **** all day in Singapore

I cant really present u with facts because their is something called using common sense, just looking at our figures and saying 'Oh Chelsea are dead' is not going to help ur cause either, Roman loves the Champions League so do you think he will let us drop out of it... he stands to make a huge loss if we do anyways.. You love getting ahead of urself and thinking that Chelsea will never comply with the FFP


As Mike mentioned, Roman is a huge supporter of it, he has spoken to Platini many times about it and I am sure Platini has heard this so called plan thats why he does not seem to be making too many noises whenever we spend big, if we do drop out of the CL cos of this then u can come back and call me every name under the sun but if your willing to sit down and look at it from a realistic viewpoint u would agree with what I say

Also Your naive to believe that most billionaires have not done something wrong, just beacuse all are not known yet does not mean they are clean, its agreeable that a few of them well might be but then their actions benefit the Economy so why the **** would the Governemnt waste time trying to expose them

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Because it's politics, in Russia. That's why he gets away with it. Roman Abramovich - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The FFP rules are relating to your past and lack of potential future growth in your business. As I said, everyone is spending now so that they avoid doing it during the FFP era. To claim you're safe just because you're spending now means nothing, your wages are sky high, your revenues can't sustain it, you have no scope for future match day revenue increases, and your youth facilities aren't strong enough to subsidise a lack of player investment.

In other words, you can't disprove my analogy so you blindly dismiss it. Every business relies on finance, the logistics of any business differs greatly. There are people out there just as intelligent as Dear Roman, who are more than capable of reviewing accountancy books, so if you're saying that's all Roman needs to be good at, then you're dismissing your own argument that his business success means he is in a stronger position to control this situation.


You don't know much about Russia, do you? They are led by a man who altered their whole political system from presidency to premiership so he could retain power longer than 8 years.


well mate time will tell... if we dont comply with the FFP I will be the one left holding my **** lol
 
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I cant really present u with facts because their is something called using common sense, just looking at our figures and saying 'Oh Chelsea are dead' is not going to help ur cause either, Roman loves the Champions League so do you think he will let us drop out of it... he stands to make a huge loss if we do anyways.. You love getting ahead of urself and thinking that Chelsea will never comply with the FFP
Absence of facts is illogical not common sense. If what you were saying were true, you'd have facts to back yourself up. Your accounts figures don't lie, and they don't look good. Sure, you can get out of it, but your belief that it will be a walk in the park couldn't be further from the truth.

As Mike mentioned, Roman is a huge supporter of it, he has spoken to Platini many times about it and I am sure Platini has head this so called plan thats why he does not seem to be making too many noises whenever we spend big, if we do drop out of the CL cos of this then u can come back and call me every name under the sun but if your willing to sit down and look at it from a realistic viewpoint u would agree with what I say
We're saying it doesn't look good for you, not that you'll immediately drop out. Since your whole argument is based on reading between the lines of events, it's pretty easy to say that Roman saying he likes these rules for PR purposes, no?
Also Your naive to believe that most billionaires have not done something wrong, just beacuse all are not known yet does not mean they are clean, its agreeable that a few of them well might be but then their actions benefit the Economy so why the **** would the Governemtn waste time trying to expose them

Collusion between businesses allows them to create more profit which leads to more revenue for the government, but that's illegal. It would be much better for the economy if the government lied about inflation figures, but they don't do that. There's a thing called trust, if you're caught lying over figures like that, or allowing practices such as collusion happen, then you lose trust of the populace - which is political suicide. So no, governments don't turn a blind eye for the sake of economics.
 
oh the film was pure fiction u do some research and find that the Wrinkeross twins did actually get paid by Zuckerberg an undisclosed fee and Eduardo Saverin is still an owner of Facebook even tho he sits on his **** all day in Singapore

I cant really present u with facts because their is something called using common sense, just looking at our figures and saying 'Oh Chelsea are dead' is not going to help ur cause either, Roman loves the Champions League so do you think he will let us drop out of it... he stands to make a huge loss if we do anyways.. You love getting ahead of urself and thinking that Chelsea will never comply with the FFP


As Mike mentioned, Roman is a huge supporter of it, he has spoken to Platini many times about it and I am sure Platini has heard this so called plan thats why he does not seem to be making too many noises whenever we spend big, if we do drop out of the CL cos of this then u can come back and call me every name under the sun but if your willing to sit down and look at it from a realistic viewpoint u would agree with what I say

Also Your naive to believe that most billionaires have not done something wrong, just beacuse all are not known yet does not mean they are clean, its agreeable that a few of them well might be but then their actions benefit the Economy so why the **** would the Governemtn waste time trying to expose them

Zuckerburg expanded and what already a good idea and made it into an amazing idea. He took their idea and made it better. I'm pretty sure he just paid off those idiots to shut them up more than anything rather than because he was "made" too as such.

Whatever Roman's idea is, it better be imposed quickly. That is all I have to say about that.

A few? You are disregarding the 100's of Billionaires who have fantastic ideas and have put them into practice. Wall-mart, Dell, Google, Amazon, BMW, Samsung, E-Bay just to name a few. Sure, there will be some that will have shady background's but not the majority.
 
Right now, you are significantly off complying with the FFP, and thats not me being a rival fan and saying so, thats coming of chelsea's own numbers. Roman has a big task ahead of him, like many euro clubs to be fair, and whatever he has planned must work very quickly and very well


agree with u completely here, you agree Roman has a plan and it must work well and quickly which it should and I have faith in him making such a plan..

Again I will say for the zillionth time that we are a long way off complying with the FFP but when people come on this thread bringing with them some numbers etc. and saying that Chelsea are dead in the water cos of so and so losses really ****** me off cos none of us know what our Board plans to do to make us break even

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Zuckerburg expanded and what already a good idea and made it into an amazing idea. He took their idea and made it better. I'm pretty sure he just paid off those idiots to shut them up more than anything rather than because he was "made" too as such.

Whatever Roman's idea is, it better be imposed quickly. That is all I have to say about that.

A few? You are disregarding the 100's of Billionaires who have fantastic ideas and have put them into practice. Wall-mart, Dell, Google, Amazon, BMW, Samsung, E-Bay just to name a few. Sure, there will be some that will have shady background's but not the majority.


Agree with you to a certain extent with this psot so I am gonna end it here

Was it so hard to not begin with something like:

Hello Narrow-Minded Person

That just some stupid way to make us even less likely to reach a conclusion
 
agree with u completely here, you agree Roman has a plan and it must work well and quickly which it should and I have faith in him making such a plan..

Again I will say for the zillionth time that we are a long way off complying with the FFP but when people come on this thread bringing with them some numbers etc. and saying that Chelsea are dead in the water cos of so and so losses really ****** me off cos none of us know what our Board plans to do to make us break even

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To be fair no one said you wont comply with FFP. All me and Joss did was to post an article which was worth reading about Chelsea and FFP,
 
agree with u completely here, you agree Roman has a plan and it must work well and quickly which it should and I have faith in him making such a plan..

Again I will say for the zillionth time that we are a long way off complying with the FFP but when people come on this thread bringing with them some numbers etc. and saying that Chelsea are dead in the water cos of so and so losses really ****** me off cos none of us know what our Board plans to do to make us break even

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Agree with you to a certain extent with this psot so I am gonna end it here

Was it so hard to not begin with something like:

Hello Narrow-Minded Person

That just some stupid way to make us even less likely to reach a conclusion

It was merely because you don't take other people opinion into account and continue to repeat the same thing. See "The Arsenal thread". Goodbye.
 
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