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Atleti don't need him with Asenjo/Joel in the squad, they just needed a transitional stop gap from De Gea.

I disagree, Courtois is miles ahead of either Asenjo or Joel, I certainly believe they'll do all they can to keep him for an extra year, even if it's Chelsea's call in the end.
 
One thing is for certain, transitional year or not we have to get Champions League qualification this season, if we do not ten god help us as it will affect us in so many different areas

One noticeable problem is the balance of the midfield, usually in a 4-3-3 we have a creator-passer-destroyer axis however in our midfield we do not have a creator which messes up the balance of the whole team, in essence we need a player who can drop deep and spray out passes to the front 3

Our defence is ****** up, Bosingwa the worlds greatest liability at RB and we can no longer rely on Ashley Cole to help us out on the left anymore, Sturridge is not familiar with the art of tracking back and helping his midfield plus the way his dad keeps moaning about how Sturridge should be in a Central Strikers role makes me wonder if its not better to bench him altogether

Malouda is ****, most incosistent player and have we even seen one good performance from him this season? Nothing like his 09/10 form

All in all we definitely need a CM, RB, two Wingers in the Summer along with a massive clearout

Our performance against Everton was absolutely bullshit, something has to change and right now Roman needs to provide the funds again to take us back to the top next season
 
If we're done wallowing in how **** we are (I'm not but no one's posting so it's getting depressing muttering: "Malouda" to myself in the dark with no one listening) shall we move onto our upcoming CL game against Napoli?
 
So we can keep the likes of Malouda for another year? What happened to giving manager time to build a squad?

Why would changing the manager keep Malouda for a year?? He isen't good enough to be playing fullstop yet he keeps playing him.

AVB shouldn't be sacked this isn't his team let him build one imo and if it means no top 4 for a season or two then so be it.

The difference is this is meant to be a transitional period so why keep playing players who aren't performing?? He does have other options but he decides not to use them.

Push the panic button, and that is why long term Chelsea will get nowhere

We still managed to compete even when we were changing managers. I believe we should keep faith with the manager but after seeing AVB this long i don't think he is the right man to be given the time. My view is he has got the job too soon in his career. He finds it hard to struggle with criticism and thinks the media and officials have an agenda against the club which is not healthy. In a way he is quite stubborn, he has tried to faze out the older players which is fine but do it in a way which is respectful to them. He seems to rub them up the wrong way and this has an effect with all the players.

But has he proved that yet? No, so Chelsea cannot go down that route, time for the ego players like lampard to go inthe summer, they cannot be bigger than the manager

Its not just Lampard who seems to have a problem with him as it seems most of the squad and supporters do. Lampard has given has given his best under every Chelsea manager and is so called ego has not been a problem with any of them so its not a problem.
 
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Just strikes me that AVB isn't playing to Chelsea strengths. Reminds me of when Hodgson went to Liverpool and tried to implement his own system with them and it didn't work out. I suppose the only way AVB will get his system to work though is to keep going at it. Teams actually go to Stamford Bridge with a much better chance of points this season as well which is very concerning for Chelsea considering the fortress Stamford Bridge has been.
 
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Why would changing the manager keep Malouda for a year?? He isen't good enough to be playing fullstop yet he keeps playing him.



The difference is this is meant to be a transitional period so why keep playing players who aren't performing?? He does have other options but he decides not to use them.



We still managed to compete even when we were changing managers. I believe we should keep faith with the manager but after seeing AVB this long i don't think he is the right man to be given the time. My view is he has got the job too soon in his career. He finds it hard to struggle with criticism and thinks the media and officials have an agenda against the club which is not healthy. In a way he is quite stubborn, he has tried to faze out the older players which is fine but do it in a way which is respectful to them. He seems to rub them up the wrong way and this has an effect with all the players.



Its not just Lampard who seems to have a problem with him as it seems most of the squad and supporters do. Lampard has given has given his best under every Chelsea manager and is so called ego has not been a problem with any of them so its not a problem.
Lampards ego wasn't problem because every other manager played him every game. The issue has come down the fact the senior players don't like the fact their time is coming to an end. Regardless of tactics so of the players have just played poorly full stop. For me it's simple, Roman must back avb over the players, they don't like it, they can go at the end of the season. it's a learning curve but he is doing what should have slowly been started 2 years ago. There is no way you can judge after a season. Especially after you were all leaping for joy when you got him. If the next generation policy had started in real earnest earlier,this transition would be less painful
 
Apparently Sturridge is unhappy. If he isn't dedicated I say **** him off regardless of how good he is if the rumours are true.
 
Apparently Sturridge is unhappy. If he isn't dedicated I say **** him off regardless of how good he is if the rumours are true.

I'd have him at Liverpool any day. His current abilityis good enough, never mind his potential! Don't know what the chelsea fans and AVB don't see in him. He's a true talent..
 
I'd have him at Liverpool any day. His current abilityis good enough, never mind his potential! Don't know what the chelsea fans and AVB don't see in him. He's a true talent..

I think Chelsea fans see what everyone sees in him, a talented player who finds a wing position alien. He's also quite selfish, and his range of passing isn't too superb, but hey, that'll improve.
 
I'd have him at Liverpool any day. His current abilityis good enough, never mind his potential! Don't know what the chelsea fans and AVB don't see in him. He's a true talent..

No body denies Sturridge's talent... the problem is that he moans(even his dad moans*XD) about wanting to play in the centre & how much more he should be paid ( his salary is already around 60k or 80k)...*

And regardless of how Chelsea performs this season, I think Chelsea should retain AVB... The guy is trying his best with what he has... Give him atleast 2 seasons before Abramovich goes for the sack... someone has to last more than 2 seasons (other than Jose that is)... Abramovich cant keep on firing people & expect results.... there has to be some stability....

Lampard is my favourite player... would love to see him start all the time but its upto AVB... nobody brings in a manager for this much money & then tell him how to do his job...

But Chelsea has to finish fourth...we were consistent title contenders...but seeing how Manchester City & Totenham have improved, Chelsea have also got to step it up...transition or not we have the squad to do it...and we need CL seeing how Uefa's financial fair play is coming into effect soon...
 
I think Chelsea fans see what everyone sees in him, a talented player who finds a wing position alien. He's also quite selfish, and his range of passing isn't too superb, but hey, that'll improve.

And he wouldn't look out of place in the Olympic diving team, either.
 
If Sturridge isn't careful he could turn into Walcott, stifled development simply down to the players insistence on either being a 'key man' or playing 'down the middle'.

Not sure he's been getting the best advice, he should have focused and got his head down this season. He's not being spectacular to the extent that Chelsea wouldn't look at a first team option in his position in the summer, that's because he's spent half the season moaning that he's not playing centrally and the other half looking inconsistent and disinterested.

He's still a young player who needs time to develop but he needs to understand his place and work on his own game before he starts making statements to the coach saying he deserves to play down the middle or wants to leave.

As it stands, if he continues the way he is, it would make more sense to sell him for maybe 10 million in the summer and bring in a young wide man (Maybe Costa or Willian) to fill the void.

He is one, as Man City have found out, that will haunt you if you sell him - a lot like Walcott - because he has all the raw talent to be a top class player it's just down to him and how he conducts himself. He's 22, his time of making juvenile comments and complaints on team selection should be winding down. If he doesn't get his head down he'll turn out like Diouf or Quaresma.
 
Lampards ego wasn't problem because every other manager played him every game. The issue has come down the fact the senior players don't like the fact their time is coming to an end. Regardless of tactics so of the players have just played poorly full stop. For me it's simple, Roman must back avb over the players, they don't like it, they can go at the end of the season. it's a learning curve but he is doing what should have slowly been started 2 years ago. There is no way you can judge after a season. Especially after you were all leaping for joy when you got him. If the next generation policy had started in real earnest earlier,this transition would be less painful

Its not just the senior players either though is it, Sturridge seems to have a problem too and i don't blame him. You say this should have started 2 years ago but we had just won the double it would have been a brave/stupid man to dis-mantle a squad who has just done that. I totally agree players have been poor thats why i don't fully blame him but when he is pursisting with these players when he could give the younger players a game that is where it is his fault. His starting line-ups and subs are very questionable, he should play certain players more if he wants to take this squad into a new age. He keeps playing the same players when there are other players available so that is where his faults lie. Not all his fault but it starts with him im afriad.
 
The old cliche of not playing young players in struggling teams comes to mind, if AVB put in McEachran/Romeu/Piazon/Bertrand/Courtois/Davila in this team at the moment not only would it be a huge gamble but if they go out and get beat that's their confidence destroyed collectively unnecessarily.

You have to ease new players into a team, with experienced players, so that when they do lose a game they have advice and the comfort of knowing it wasn't them or their inexperience that lost the game. It's just not a risk worth taking this season, he gives youngsters the odd game to ease them in and take a look at them but he doesn't play them enough that they feel comfortable enough to be upset when they're on the bench.

It's the right approach in a transition to not throw every talented youngster into a struggling team, let's not forget why he's stuck with Malouda/Lampard etc he has no other options from what he has and he has exposed the Chelsea team to his system which clearly doesn't suite them.

I think if you compare the team at Everton to the one you'll see next season it will look a lot stronger in midfield/defence, Torres will still be there but he might actually play in a team that creates chances. Would not surprise me to see Chelsea make a couple of signings off the back of the European Championships, the usual breakthrough players bidding war I imagine.
 
The old cliche of not playing young players in struggling teams comes to mind, if AVB put in McEachran/Romeu/Piazon/Bertrand/Courtois/Davila in this team at the moment not only would it be a huge gamble but if they go out and get beat that's their confidence destroyed collectively unnecessarily.

You have to ease new players into a team, with experienced players, so that when they do lose a game they have advice and the comfort of knowing it wasn't them or their inexperience that lost the game. It's just not a risk worth taking this season, he gives youngsters the odd game to ease them in and take a look at them but he doesn't play them enough that they feel comfortable enough to be upset when they're on the bench.

It's the right approach in a transition to not throw every talented youngster into a struggling team, let's not forget why he's stuck with Malouda/Lampard etc he has no other options from what he has and he has exposed the Chelsea team to his system which clearly doesn't suite them.

I think if you compare the team at Everton to the one you'll see next season it will look a lot stronger in midfield/defence, Torres will still be there but he might actually play in a team that creates chances. Would not surprise me to see Chelsea make a couple of signings off the back of the European Championships, the usual breakthrough players bidding war I imagine.

I never said put them all in at once because that would be a poor decision. He isen't even easing them in slowly though is he. How many appearences have Bertrand, McEachran (before the loan), Piazon and Lukaku had this season 20 between them just 9 of them are starts all in the Carling Cup!!!!
 
At least our youth are still looking decent. They just beat West Ham 5-4 on penalties as the game ended 3-3. Very good goals in the game especially by Feruz.
 
Listening to a Chelsea podcast which this week has halftime announcer and ChelseaTV reporter Neil "spy" Barnett on it and he just said something which i and no one on here has thought ov. He said what do all these games which he believes to be our best performances of the season have in common Leverkusen (Away), Valencia (Home), Newcastle (Away), Man City (Home) and Spurs (Away)??? Answer.......Didier Drogba started all of them and and played sensationaly well in them, life in the old Drog yet i believe so.

He has been a supporter since 1959 and spent most of his life working for Chelsea and had a very good friendship with the late, great Peter Osgood who is said to be our best striker of all time. He though believes from what he has seen Drogba is the best striker to ever play for Chelsea by a long distance. This is a man who knows what he is talking about too.
 
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Listening to a Chelsea podcast which this week has halftime announcer and ChelseaTV reporter Neil "spy" Barnett on it and he just said something which i and no one on here has thought ov. He said what do all these games which he believes to be our best performances of the season have in common Leverkusen (A), Valencia (H), Newcastle (A), Man City (H) and Spurs (A)??? Answer.......Didier Drogba started all of them and and played sensationaly well in them, life in the old Drog yet i believe so.

He has been a supporter since 1959 and spent most of his life working for Chelsea and had a very good friendship with the late, great Peter Osgood who is said to be our best striker of all time. He though believes from what he has seen Drogba is the best striker to ever play for Chelsea by a long distance. This is a man who knows what he is talking about too.

It's the returning Drog which is why I put you down to take 4th. IIRC your bad run of form began about the time he left for ACON.
 
Listening to a Chelsea podcast which this week has halftime announcer and ChelseaTV reporter Neil "spy" Barnett on it and he just said something which i and no one on here has thought ov. He said what do all these games which he believes to be our best performances of the season have in common Leverkusen (Away), Valencia (Home), Newcastle (Away), Man City (Home) and Spurs (Away)??? Answer.......Didier Drogba started all of them and and played sensationaly well in them, life in the old Drog yet i believe so.

He has been a supporter since 1959 and spent most of his life working for Chelsea and had a very good friendship with the late, great Peter Osgood who is said to be our best striker of all time. He though believes from what he has seen Drogba is the best striker to ever play for Chelsea by a long distance. This is a man who knows what he is talking about too.

I think the more notable thing about those games is that they are all against teams that did not park the bus against us, a tactic that we have found increasingly difficult to break down. For example against Utd, had we not decided to give away some stupid penalties then that would have been regarded as one of our best games of the season. However, I am not saying that Drogba shouldn't start because at the moment my right *** cheek has more of a chance scoring for Chelsea than Torres.
 
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