The Chelsea Thread

[CJACKO11]

No Guus Hiddink to cover for 2 months this time round. Benitez is placed as favorite to take the reins, opinions?

Won't happen in my eyes, he wants a longer deal which is fair enough and we arn't willing to offer him that.

Benitez knows how to win CL, but we are talking about immediate success here, no 2-3 years time. If he doesnt win anything, he will be shown the door. NO SURPRISE. I dont think we will have a long term manager, unless its Jose.

Only good thing i can see besides Rafa actually being a decent manager is that he might just might get Torres firing.

I'd rather see David Luiz as manager than Abramovic stay at the club. He's absolutely ruined the club. We are a laughing stock and absolutely no one with any modesty would believe they could take the club where Roman wants to be. Get off your glory supporting ******** and drive Roman out of the club.

Oh the same Abramovich who not only made sure we have a club to support but a club who has been one of the best in world football for 8 years watching some of the best football from the best players to play for this club???? Careful what you wish for mate.

I doubt Pep would even come to Chelsea considering your managerial history. I'd put my money on either Jose or Capello.

Corse he would, like i said all managers believe they are the one that could be that one that works. They all believe in their ability to succeed no matter the job.

 

[BlueHeart26]

Only good thing i can see besides Rafa actually being a decent manager is that he might just might get Torres firing.

****, never thought of that. Spot on.

 

[TheRealMourinho]

I struggle to find anyone who would want to take over at Chelsea.
Why would Pep leave Barca (the best club side ever imo) besides maybe the chance of a new challenge?
Why would Mourinho come back and risk the chance of damaging his legacy?
Why would Klopp leave Dortmund, a club with a great future that he has built?

However if it was down to my personal opinion i would first get rid of the egos before anything else,
also a little bit of news which i agree with;
"Newcastle boss Alan Pardew believes Chelsea's senior players should apologise to Andre Villas-Boas for making life so tough at Stamford Bridge."

 

[ChrisBird]

well, a lot of people called the appointment of AVB a gamble, so if he's a gamble, then Klopp is a gamble too. Both won things, but Portugal and Germany cant compare to the EPL.

I think Pep would be a gamble too, because of the fact the team won him all those trophies.. with a team like that, its not too hard, still credits to him, not taking anything away from his contribution, but look what players theyve got.

Brendan would be a perfect long term manager, but theres no such thing as longterm manager at Chelsea. So..

My #1 on the list will always be Jose. He is our special one. His aura is amazing.

Klopp is a LOT more experienced than AVB. I still don't think AVB was a gamble, though. Bundesliga can compare to the PL, I won't hear otherwise. Maybe PL's better, but in my eyes there's not much in it. Most people who think there's a massive difference don't/haven't watch/watched the Bundesliga.

Pep would certainly not be a gamble (well, maybe he's a slight gamble, but everything in life, and especially football, is a gamble). He's an amazing manager, and it's not just the players who won all of those trophies; he played a massive part in it. But, let's not get on to this again; it's a much discussed topic, which never progresses anywhere.

Mourinho would be 2nd on my list, but like I said earlier; it depends on the plans he would have for us.

 

[Quasit]

Just also remembered that Pep has said that he'll take year off if he leaves Barcelona. So if he hasn't changed his mind about that he wont be coming.

 

[CJACKO11]

I struggle to find anyone who would want to take over at Chelsea.
Why would Pep leave Barca (the best club side ever imo) besides maybe the chance of a new challenge?
Why would Mourinho come back and risk the chance of damaging his legacy?
Why would Klopp leave Dortmund, a club with a great future that he has built?

However if it was down to my personal opinion i would first get rid of the egos before anything else,
also a little bit of news which i agree with;
"Newcastle boss Alan Pardew believes Chelsea's senior players should apologise to Andre Villas-Boas for making life so tough at Stamford Bridge."

Pep has always said he dosen't want to manage for a long time but does want to work in London before he retires and lets be honest he dosen't have anything more to do to prove himself at Barca does he lol. I actually agree with the Jose thing and its the reason why im on the fence about him coming back. And for Klopp, as much as a great side he has built/building with Dortmund i think managing Chelsea is still a step up and a challenge managers would love to try prove themselfs with.

 

[ChrisBird]

I struggle to find anyone who would want to take over at Chelsea.
Why would Pep leave Barca (the best club side ever imo) besides maybe the chance of a new challenge?
Why would Mourinho come back and risk the chance of damaging his legacy?
Why would Klopp leave Dortmund, a club with a great future that he has built?

However if it was down to my personal opinion i would first get rid of the egos before anything else,
also a little bit of news which i agree with;
"Newcastle boss Alan Pardew believes Chelsea's senior players should apologise to Andre Villas-Boas for making life so tough at Stamford Bridge."

You just answered your own question regarding Pep. I think he'll probably stay for another year, at least, but his future, ATM, is unclear, and if at the end of the season he wants to leave for a fresh challenge, then why not join Chelsea?

Mourinho would come back because he loves Chelsea, London and English football.

Klopp might join, but as I said earlier; he has just signed a new contract, so I wouldn't say he's the most likely, but I wouldn't rule him out. Klopp might want to experience a new league, who knows?! We'll see.

 

[BlueHeart26]

"Newcastle boss Alan Pardew believes Chelsea's senior players should apologise to Andre Villas-Boas for making life so tough at Stamford Bridge."

Totally agree with Pardew.

Klopp is a LOT more experienced than AVB. I still don't think AVB was a gamble, though. Bundesliga can compare to the PL, I won't hear otherwise. Maybe PL's better, but in my eyes there's not much in it. Most people who think there's a massive difference don't/haven't watch/watched the Bundesliga.

I've watched Bundesliga for years. I stopped watching it close enough a year ago. So I know what i'm talking about, but whatever, you have a different view on that. thats fine.

Pep would certainly not be a gamble (well, maybe he's a slight gamble, but everything in life, and especially football, is a gamble). He's an amazing manager, and it's not just the players who won all of those trophies; he played a massive part in it. But, let's not get on to this again; it's a much discussed topic, which never progresses anywhere.

As I said hes contributed a lot, but its easier to manage a group of players with that quality. They pretty much have re-created the game. As much as I hate them, its a fact. You are right, its taking us nowhere. Still, if Jose doesnt come, I wouldnt mind Pep. Not at all.

 

[ChrisBird]

Just also remembered that Pep has said that he'll take year off if he leaves Barcelona. So if he hasn't changed his mind about that he wont be coming.

If there's a job that appeals to Pep when he leaves, he'll take it.

 

[Ride The Walrus]

None of these. What kind of question is that?

it was in response to the person calling for Abramovich to leave.

 

[sunilvk7]

You just answered your own question regarding Pep. I think he'll probably stay for another year, at least, but his future, ATM, is unclear, and if at the end of the season he wants to leave for a fresh challenge, then why not join Chelsea?

Mourinho would come back because he loves Chelsea, London and English football.

Klopp might join, but as I said earlier; he has just signed a new contract, so I wouldn't say he's the most likely, but I wouldn't rule him out. Klopp might want to experience a new league, who knows?! We'll see.

I dont think Klopp will join. Germans prefer to stay in Bundesliga and I think he will be the future Bayern manager.

 

[Jak]

nice sentiment
Mata thanks Villas-Boas | Sky Sports

 

[Subtle]

Things like that make you realise how much of the rest of our squad are twats. :-(

 

[rephlex]

hes winning the la liga no doubt. but why *AND* ECL? If he doesnt, he will stay?

Well, because he did the same at Inter after winning both the title and the ECL. He wants to be the first manager to win the ECL with 4 teams I think, and the project at that point would largely be over. I'm not saying he'd go to Chelsea, just that he'd actually probably consider leaving if the offer was right, versus staying around.

 

[Athe~]

but Bielsa's a bit odd, and old.

Bielsa is hardly old, he's 56. He could still be your manager for some 15 years. He is a weirdo, though, and I don't think he'd be a great hit with the English press and he certainly won't be liked by your old guard, either. That said, there were a few rumours in a couple of Spanish newspapers (Marca and I think it was Sport but I can't be sure) about Abramovich contacting Bielsa's representatives over a potential deal.

Personally I don't see it happening - I believe the only reason he took over Athletic after 13 years of international management is because it's pretty much a Basque national team, and I certainly don't see him fitting at Chelsea.

 

[ChrisBird]

Bielsa is hardly old, he's 56. He could still be your manager for some 15 years. He is a weirdo, though, and I don't think he'd be a great hit with the English press and he certainly won't be liked by your old guard, either. That said, there were a few rumours in a couple of Spanish newspapers (Marca and I think it was Sport but I can't be sure) about Abramovich contacting Bielsa's representatives over a potential deal.

Personally I don't see it happening - I believe the only reason he took over Athletic after 13 years of international management is because it's pretty much a Basque national team, and I certainly don't see him fitting at Chelsea.

Yes, that's why I said it. Hmm, I see what you mean; at 56 he has time in him, but I mean he's a bit old for my liking. I'd like a younger, refreshing manager. Somebody like...Villas-Boas...

Yeah, I agree. I don't think he would fit, but I don't think he'd do a bad job.

 

[ChrisBird]

I dont think Klopp will join. Germans prefer to stay in Bundesliga and I think he will be the future Bayern manager.

Hmm, maybe, but who knows?! All depends on what he wants to do.

 

[vlad-the-impaling-gunner]

 

[oja20]

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Why AVB?

 

[Alcaraz]

So here we are again, on the prospect of having a 9th manager in 9 years and again there are varying reactions to the managerial sacking... Let me add my 2 cents worth

When AVB arrived at Chelsea all of us were understandably excited... his tactical prowess was renown, he had just come off a brilliant season with Porto a team which he had made invincible and was young and dynamic. So how did it all go wrong?

1. Well the fact that AVB was sacked mid-way through the season and not given a chance till the end of the season probably suggests that AVB's relationship with the players was fractured beyond repair.

When we hear Lampard moaning and groaning all the time of being on the bench then it is quite obvious that AVB did not communicate with the player properly. If AVB had relayed his plans to Lampard then I am pretty sure Lampard would have been content with a rotational role.

And lets face it Lampard does have a point... he said that he does not mind sitting on the bench but then he wants to see the team win. If the team is not winning and he is sitting on the bench then he as every right to ask on why he is not being given a chance particularly as he is our top scorer this season despite playing significantly fewer games as compared to previous seasons

2. AVBs tactics really suited only 4-5 players in the squad. The squad was stuck between 2 styles and I find it hard to believe why significant investment was not made by AVB in the summer or January to mould the squad. How could he have gone into the season with a squad that did not suit his tactics at all and then not do anything in January to change that?

Either he should have overhauled the squad in the summer or atleast employed tactics that suited the majority of the squad so that we may not find ourselves in the position we are now. It is not really the players fault here when you consider that AVB hardly played the majority of them to their strengths. Only players like Mata, Sturridge and Ramires really prospered in his system while the rest of them had a horrific season

I think that about sums it up for me. AVB's relationship with the players was fractured beyond repair after the loss to West Brom possibly because he did not communicate his idea's properly to his players and his tactics did not suit the majority of the squad.

3. A third possibility is results... AVB had the lowest winning percentage of all the previous Chelsea managers and at the end of the day, people look at results and in that aspect we can safely say that AVB failed miserably especially considering he had a squad that nearly won the title last season. We should have at least been in in the top 4

Despite that, I am very sad to see AVB go. I really believed he could have built a legacy at Chelsea and be on of the greatest managers in the game but **** happens I guess and we have to move on.

Also I feel we can kiss the possibility of CL Football goodbye next season unless Di Matteo pulls of a miracle.