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Am I the only one that thinks that Ramires ran around bumping into people like a wild donkey for 90 minutes? I was really surprised not to see him substituted.

He's so frustrating going forward as technically he's pretty average. He's either brilliant or terrible when deployed wide, and unfortunately it was the latter today.
 
Also trying to play long ball when we have players ilike hazard and mata wtf is wrong with us?
 
so the Chelsea players waste good chances (thanks to Rafa's tactics surely) and lampard misses a penalty (which never happens) to mean Chelsea are very unlucky not to beat the current champions. Sure blame the manager, not the players.
Rafa out
 
Rafa out!

Wait?

Your players totally sucked today. Rafa actually made attacking changes to chase the game, exactly what you guys have been asking for. And this is away at the league champions, too.

The players didn't give enough, the second goal the players were walking and not tracking back properly while City players sprinted. Total gift of a goal.

Lampard and Hazard were well off form, this is despite being rested in the previous game .. they just wern't 100% there. Not good enough if you just play long ball to those guys.

But yes, lets get the manager out.
 
What the actual **** goes on in rafas head? Hmmm there's Eden hazard who was looking like one of our biggest threats and causing abit of trouble and Ramires who was absoloutely **** so who does he decide to sub off? Honestly is going to make sure we finish in a Europa league place then walk awa at the end of the season happy im fed up of the useless ****.

You're 3rd arent you? So roughly keeping you where you should be, after losing a game you weren't really favourites for
 
He shouldnt have taken hazard off, other than that the players themselves were sub par.
 
You're 3rd arent you? So roughly keeping you where you should be, after losing a game you weren't really favourites for

Tomorrow evening more than likely 4th and only 2 points ahead of 5th when we could easy have been what 6-7 clear of if we had OT thrown away 2 goals leads on a few occasions and with how we are playing its not looking too great is it.
 
Tomorrow evening more than likely 4th and only 2 points ahead of 5th when we could easy have been what 6-7 clear of if we had OT thrown away 2 goals leads on a few occasions and with how we are playing its not looking too great is it.

If your players make suicidal decisions on the pitch, don't track markers, and basically fail execute the basics, that isnt his fault. You trust the players to go out and do their jobs, a lot of the time its this failing that is actually costing you.

Rafa's mistake today was taking off Hazard, but the rest falls squarely on the players.
 
If your players make suicidal decisions on the pitch, don't track markers, and basically fail execute the basics, that isnt his fault. You trust the players to go out and do their jobs, a lot of the time its this failing that is actually costing you.

Rafa's mistake today was taking off Hazard, but the rest falls squarely on the players.

Dont get me wrong it isn't all rafas fault the players aren't helping but it just won't work having him in charge at the club the fans hate him and no matter what he does will never win us over and some of his silly decisions cost us I just want this season to be over so he is gone and we can bring nin a new manager and try and start fresh.
 
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If your players make suicidal decisions on the pitch, don't track markers, and basically fail execute the basics, that isnt his fault. You trust the players to go out and do their jobs, a lot of the time its this failing that is actually costing you.

Rafa's mistake today was taking off Hazard, but the rest falls squarely on the players.
Dont get me wrong it isn't all rafas fault the players aren't helping but it just won't work having him in charge at the club the fans hate him and no matter what he does will never win us over and some of his silly decisions cost us I just want this season to be over so he is gone and we can bring nin a new manager and try and start fresh.

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Very uninspired performance by Chelsea. I suppose with City not playing in Europa League you could expect them to dominate the game, but long balls to Mata and Hazard, really?
 
Am I the only one that thinks that Ramires ran around bumping into people like a wild donkey for 90 minutes? I was really surprised not to see him substituted.

Really feel for the lad personally. This formation does not suit his game at all!

Rafa out!

Wait?

Your players totally sucked today. Rafa actually made attacking changes to chase the game, exactly what you guys have been asking for. And this is away at the league champions, too.

The players didn't give enough, the second goal the players were walking and not tracking back properly while City players sprinted. Total gift of a goal.

Lampard and Hazard were well off form, this is despite being rested in the previous game .. they just wern't 100% there. Not good enough if you just play long ball to those guys.

But yes, lets get the manager out.

Yes the players played poorly but it wasn't the right starting 11 in the first place (in my opinion)! No Azpi? No JT? Ramires wide right? For if you wasn't going to play 4-3-3 which of course Rafa "4-2-3-1" Benitez was never going to do you should never have started Lampard in the middle. Get Mikel and Luiz in there Mikel to do the dirty work and stick Luiz on Toure to give him something to worry about. You then have to start JT and why not start Azpili who has been our best fullback/defender this season is an outrageous decision. You also then start Moses instead of Ramires who gives us natural width and more threat going forward. But hay what do i know, some of these players played 3 days ago so they must be absolutely ****** and unable to play a game of football!!! #SarcasmDetected

My Cousin who is 23 played 90 minutes Tuesday to help his team reach the Hampshire cup final (which is played at Fratton Park), then played 90 minutes yesterday for the same side and celebrated by going to see Pete Tong which included a lot of drinking, pretty heavy drugs (not recommended) and womanising (highly recommended) and coming in at 4:30 to then get up at 9:30 and play 90 minutes today! Yes i fully accept his level is not the same as the PL although it is pretty high but he is not a fully qualified footballer unlike these players. If early-mid 20's year old players cannot play 2 games in 3 days then they in the wrong job its quite simple. These are ******* fully fit professionals, most of this tinkering Rafa does is ******* needless!!!

I fully accept the players he picked were shockingly poor today each and every single one of them apart from Cahill for me who without him it could have been 5 or 6. When the game started to get stretched i was just in the middle of a tweet which said "changes need to be made now Rafa", half way through they scored. Hazard off instead of Ramires/Lampard was mind boggling to say the least!

I genuinely worry about getting top 4 if Rafa lasts the season, thankfully i do think if we slip out the top 4 then he will be sacked pronto. Once you lose the dressing room its hard to get it back and these players 100% do not listen to him and i have seen it with my own eyes just last Thursday.
 
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My Cousin who is 23 played 90 minutes Tuesday to help his team reach the Hampshire cup final (which is played at Fratton Park), then played 90 minutes yesterday for the same side and celebrated by going to see Pete Tong which included a lot of drinking, pretty heavy drugs (not recommended) and womanising (highly recommended) and coming in at 4:30 to then get up at 9:30 and play 90 minutes today! Yes i fully accept his level is not the same as the PL although it is pretty high but he is not a fully qualified footballer unlike these players. If early-mid 20's year old players cannot play 2 games in 3 days then they in the wrong job its quite simple. These are ******* fully fit professionals, most of this tinkering Rafa does is ******* needless!!!

Don't know why clubs bother with sports scientists, this anecdote makes the past few decades of research into optimal recovery time look a waste of time.
 
Only 1 page of rage since the game was over? I am dissapoint in you Chelsea thread.
 
I like how Alex Ferguson hasn't played the same side twice in a row in - literally - something like three years, and nobody comments on it. But Rafa does it and it's all OMGWTFBBQ RAFA OUTZ ROTATING IS FOREIGN AND THEREFORE SUSPICIOUS.

Much like how statistically Claudio Ranieri rotated his squad less than at least a quarter of Serie A's managers last time he had a permanent job in the league, Benitez's rotational policy is actually pretty regular. It's just that he doesn't have the benefit of a truly world-class squad like the aforementioned Ferguson does.
 
I really don't know whats with all the rotation hate, out of all things. Its not the 90s anymore , if you still think rotation is bad, you might just as well say N'sync is your favourite band - not that i would judge , but perhaps its time to move on.

Everybody does rotation. And those that don't, wish they could. They guy who rotates his squad like crazy has 13 point lead in this very league.
 
If you want one example of why a lack of rotation doesn't work, look no further than Aston Villa under Martin O'Neill.

EVERY YEAR we'd play the same squad, the same 11 players and same 7 subs, and we'd fly up the table. Come Christmas, we'd be as high as second, and getting into the CL looked a done deal. And then you know what happened? It would all fall apart. Players couldn't press effectively, looked legged after 60 minutes, and were constantly in a state of semi burned out. We would crash in the league and fall to sixth, three consecutive times.

Not rotating is just retarded. And before someone gives me bollocks about 'excessive rotation', I did a little research a while ago, and there's a positive correlation between changes and league position, across all the top leagues. In other words, the more a manager rotates, the higher the club he's in charge of finishes. This holds roughly true for all the top leagues, but is especially relevant in the Prem; in other words, the league which has the most physically demanding football and most packed schedule.

Oh, and:

My Cousin who is 23 played 90 minutes Tuesday to help his team reach the Hampshire cup final (which is played at Fratton Park), then played 90 minutes yesterday for the same side and celebrated by going to see Pete Tong which included a lot of drinking, pretty heavy drugs (not recommended) and womanising (highly recommended) and coming in at 4:30 to then get up at 9:30 and play 90 minutes today! Yes i fully accept his level is not the same as the PL although it is pretty high but he is not a fully qualified footballer unlike these players. If early-mid 20's year old players cannot play 2 games in 3 days then they in the wrong job its quite simple. These are ******* fully fit professionals, most of this tinkering Rafa does is ******* needless!!!

I would normally refuse to believe anyone is this retarded, but then again, this is the internet...
 
If you want one example of why a lack of rotation doesn't work, look no further than Aston Villa under Martin O'Neill.

EVERY YEAR we'd play the same squad, the same 11 players and same 7 subs, and we'd fly up the table. Come Christmas, we'd be as high as second, and getting into the CL looked a done deal. And then you know what happened? It would all fall apart. Players couldn't press effectively, looked legged after 60 minutes, and were constantly in a state of semi burned out. We would crash in the league and fall to sixth, three consecutive times.

Not rotating is just retarded. And before someone gives me bollocks about 'excessive rotation', I did a little research a while ago, and there's a positive correlation between changes and league position, across all the top leagues. In other words, the more a manager rotates, the higher the club he's in charge of finishes. This holds roughly true for all the top leagues, but is especially relevant in the Prem; in other words, the league which has the most physically demanding football and most packed schedule.

Oh, and:



I would normally refuse to believe anyone is this retarded, but then again, this is the internet...

Another example of badly need rotation is our squad. Great start to the season. lack of transfer activity, same players nearly every match, unable to rotate due to lack of depth and there you go-we're starting to fade, our performances are becoming more erratic (today is a good example-controlled the match but couldn't apply the killing touch). In the rigours of the modern game, rotation is as vital regardless of how fit a player is-we all know it's not down to just to physical fitness but mental aswell. don't do it then there's an excellent chance of poor performances snowballing out of control thanks to poor squad management. Though the clubs that can't afford to rotate due to being broke are pretty much screwed through no fault of their own.
 
And Cahill is such a liability.

Why would you say that? So he sometimes doesn't mark so well, **** happens. But man , he is so brave he would take on a bear with his bare hands if it meant not allowing a goal. He is willing to put his face in places most players would be afraid to put their leg in. Absolutely determined to stop the attack , reminds me of certain young Jay-T. One of my favourite CBs in the world right now.
 
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