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So it has been revealed lukaku requested a permenant transfer before being loaned out to Everton. So much for him being a massive Chelsea fan from the age of 9 not even believing he can challenge with our other strikers and earn a place in the side. Understand it could also be as he might of felt no matter how hard he tried Jose would still always pick Eto'o and Torres ahead of him this season but it just shows to me he can't care that much about trying to make it big at Chelsea. If in the summer he wants out again I just say let him go no matter how talented he is no point keeping a striker who would rather be a big fish in a small pond than make it at Chelsea.

But yet how many of the media, opponent fans and our own fans slated Jose every time our strikers didn't score of Lukaku did?
 
So it has been revealed lukaku requested a permenant transfer before being loaned out to Everton. So much for him being a massive Chelsea fan from the age of 9 not even believing he can challenge with our other strikers and earn a place in the side. Understand it could also be as he might of felt no matter how hard he tried Jose would still always pick Eto'o and Torres ahead of him this season but it just shows to me he can't care that much about trying to make it big at Chelsea. If in the summer he wants out again I just say let him go no matter how talented he is no point keeping a striker who would rather be a big fish in a small pond than make it at Chelsea.
The thing is though, Lukaku managed to score more goals than any Chelsea player with a West Brom team which was far from brilliant (although they had a good season, mostly thanks to him), yet Mourinho decides to go with an off-form Demba Ba, an ageing Eto'o and Torres, who scored less-than-half of Lukaku's goals. This is sure to demotivate any player, not least a 20-year-old youngster who's managed to more than prove himself. It's not really his fault, in my opinion, but Mourinho's - he might be a massive Chelsea fan, but for players, their career is more important than club loyalties.
 
But yet how many of the media, opponent fans and our own fans slated Jose every time our strikers didn't score of Lukaku did?

i think Jose did want to keep lukaku this season I mean on a number of occasions in pre season when asked in interviews if he was looking to keep or sell both de bruyne and lukaku he said both would be staying at the club also I don't really think lukaku was patient enough I mean it was only the ****** end of August and he already wanted out! Who's to say now if he'd had stayed he wouldn't have got his chance in the starting line up, hit some good form and started to play more regular and became a key player for the club this season?
 
The thing is though, Lukaku managed to score more goals than any Chelsea player with a West Brom team which was far from brilliant (although they had a good season, mostly thanks to him), yet Mourinho decides to go with an off-form Demba Ba, an ageing Eto'o and Torres, who scored less-than-half of Lukaku's goals. This is sure to demotivate any player, not least a 20-year-old youngster who's managed to more than prove himself. It's not really his fault, in my opinion, but Mourinho's - he might be a massive Chelsea fan, but for players, their career is more important than club loyalties.

I understand it must be frustrating seeing strikers you are clearly playing much better than getting picked for the team ahead of you but as I said in my previous post it was still only August and who's to say his chance wouldn't have soon come? At the time none of our strikers had scored apart from Torres with 1 so maybe than Jose would have turned to Romelu and given him a few starts. Also I could be wrong but it seems to me Romelu would rather a easy ride where he is at a club where he knows he will be starting regularly no matter what and won't really have to fight for his place ( again I can understand a little bit as he is only 20 years old and of course wants to be getting as much game time as possible and keep improving as a player.)
 
The thing is though, Lukaku managed to score more goals than any Chelsea player with a West Brom team which was far from brilliant (although they had a good season, mostly thanks to him), yet Mourinho decides to go with an off-form Demba Ba, an ageing Eto'o and Torres, who scored less-than-half of Lukaku's goals. This is sure to demotivate any player, not least a 20-year-old youngster who's managed to more than prove himself. It's not really his fault, in my opinion, but Mourinho's - he might be a massive Chelsea fan, but for players, their career is more important than club loyalties.
But, teams don't set up as defensively against West Brom as they do against Chelsea, and a striker like him would've been phased out in our games like most have been. He's the striker who stays on the shoulder of last defender waiting for balls to bag it in, Mourinho wanted a striker who can come deep and contribute to build up play, like Rooney, Suarez, Aguero, Diego Costa do/can. Lukaku can be a good Drogba-esque Target Man but he's got a lot to learn, he doesn't play with his back to goal and do turns, he just uses his physicality ATM.
Martinez's system is good for his technical development, but I'm a bit disappointed with his this attitude. The kid maybe Drogba's fan but the mentality is very very diff. Oh Drogba :').
 
So it has been revealed lukaku requested a permenant transfer before being loaned out to Everton. So much for him being a massive Chelsea fan from the age of 9 not even believing he can challenge with our other strikers and earn a place in the side. Understand it could also be as he might of felt no matter how hard he tried Jose would still always pick Eto'o and Torres ahead of him this season but it just shows to me he can't care that much about trying to make it big at Chelsea. If in the summer he wants out again I just say let him go no matter how talented he is no point keeping a striker who would rather be a big fish in a small pond than make it at Chelsea.

Actually he is doing the right thing development wise. Clearly he does not trust that he will be given a fair crack at Chelsea, has an amazing loan spell, and Eto'o arrives. No wonder he wanted to move.
 
Actually he is doing the right thing development wise. Clearly he does not trust that he will be given a fair crack at Chelsea, has an amazing loan spell, and Eto'o arrives. No wonder he wanted to move.

Yeah I am not fully going against him I believe another year out on loan is great for him id just like him to show abit more determination when it comes to Chelsea ( we could certainly do with showing faith in Romelu's ability too) just whenever he speaks about the club it just sounds like he isn't that bothered wether he makes it at Chelsea or not. Hopefully I'm proven wrong about him and he comes back in the summer, kicks on and forces his way into a regular place in the Chelsea line up. Also I've been thinking if it is true Drogba will be returning to the club as a coach come the summer that could also be a massive boost for lukaku as obviously drogba is his idol and who lukaku bases his game on so drogba could become his mentor and help him a lot.
 
Yeah I am not fully going against him I believe another year out on loan is great for him id just like him to show abit more determination when it comes to Chelsea ( we could certainly do with showing faith in Romelu's ability too) just whenever he speaks about the club it just sounds like he isn't that bothered wether he makes it at Chelsea or not. Hopefully I'm proven wrong about him and he comes back in the summer, kicks on and forces his way into a regular place in the Chelsea line up. Also I've been thinking if it is true Drogba will be returning to the club as a coach come the summer that could also be a massive boost for lukaku as obviously drogba is his idol and who lukaku bases his game on so drogba could become his mentor and help him a lot.

he wants to make it as a player, if Chelsea arent going to be there for him, he will make his own way, which is a good thing imo. Chelsea don't have great history in faith in young players tbh.
 
i think Jose did want to keep lukaku this season I mean on a number of occasions in pre season when asked in interviews if he was looking to keep or sell both de bruyne and lukaku he said both would be staying at the club also I don't really think lukaku was patient enough I mean it was only the ****** end of August and he already wanted out! Who's to say now if he'd had stayed he wouldn't have got his chance in the starting line up, hit some good form and started to play more regular and became a key player for the club this season?
It was August, yes, but a manager doesn't go and sign a new striker on massive wages (Eto'o's clearly challenging for a first team place) if you feel you have good enough players at the club already. With Torres and Ba, Lukaku would be fighting for a first team place, but with Eto'o in the picture, it's unlikely Mourinho would demote one of his favourite strikers (who's also on massive wages) to the reserves. Perhaps Lukaku would've got a chance sometime during the season, but he just has to look at Sturridge - he didn't, even after a very good loan spell at Bolton.

But, teams don't set up as defensively against West Brom as they do against Chelsea, and a striker like him would've been phased out in our games like most have been. He's the striker who stays on the shoulder of last defender waiting for balls to bag it in, Mourinho wanted a striker who can come deep and contribute to build up play, like Rooney, Suarez, Aguero, Diego Costa do/can. Lukaku can be a good Drogba-esque Target Man but he's got a lot to learn, he doesn't play with his back to goal and do turns, he just uses his physicality ATM.
Martinez's system is good for his technical development, but I'm a bit disappointed with his this attitude. The kid maybe Drogba's fan but the mentality is very very diff. Oh Drogba :').
You could also make the point that Chelsea have better players to support Lukaku, though, so he would've had better passes and crosses to him - as well as more space, because the opposition would be preoccupied with Chelsea's other star players. And perhaps Mourinho was looking for a different type of striker, but then it really doesn't explain the arrival of Eto'o, or how he decided to keep Ba (although that was, I believe, to do with his failure to bring anyone in). Torres can play a deeper role fairly effectively, but he's probably the only striker currently at Chelsea who can. And Mourinho generally favours 'battering ram' strikers in his teams, or poachers (the likes of Drogba, Milito, etc.).
 
It's hard to blame Lukaku, after last season with the way Torres and Ba played it would have been a bit of a kick in the teeth to Lukaku when Eto joined. Mourinho would rather have an aging striker who's a shadow of the player he once was as opposed to him. If he didn't go out on loan he'd more than likely end up playing a hand full of games at best.

Chelsea fan or not the club have basically told him he's not good enough yet so why wouldn't he want to move on?
 
he wants to make it as a player, if Chelsea arent going to be there for him, he will make his own way, which is a good thing imo. Chelsea don't have great history in faith in young players tbh.

Quite a false thing to say really, when you look at young players who have left the side in recent years i'd say there is an argument for 1 being premature and that is Nemanja Matic. What are the others doing right now that's what you have to look at. Our academy is getting better every year and the players we have not compared to 5 years ago is like chalk and cheese, managerial stability will also help in getting these young lads into the 1st team.
 
At first i was obviously against Lukaku going on loan but when i thought about it then it made sense. Chelsea are trying to adapt to a new system and right now Lukaku needed games week in week out starting matches because as good as he was last season most of his great performances came whilst coming off the bench. He goes to Everton who will play the kind of way Chelsea want to play so we both come together in a much better off position next season.

It does make me laugh the amount of Chelsea fans already getting on Jose's back though because results aren't what they expect them to be. These are the same fans who slate Roman for his short termism in terms of managers yet we aren't prepared to give Jose time despite him stating this is a project which will take time! Success does strange things to people!
 
At first i was obviously against Lukaku going on loan but when i thought about it then it made sense. Chelsea are trying to adapt to a new system and right now Lukaku needed games week in week out starting matches because as good as he was last season most of his great performances came whilst coming off the bench. He goes to Everton who will play the kind of way Chelsea want to play so we both come together in a much better off position next season.

It does make me laugh the amount of Chelsea fans already getting on Jose's back though because results aren't what they expect them to be. These are the same fans who slate Roman for his short termism in terms of managers yet we aren't prepared to give Jose time despite him stating this is a project which will take time! Success does strange things to people!
Lukaku did well in the games he started for West Brom, he was far from an impact sub.
 
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How many goals have we conceded from dodgy backpasses this season?
 
Much better in the second half! Demba ba was fantastic when he came on and for me now deserves a few starts in a row
 
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