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Another incredible European night at Stamford bridge!! I love this football club.
 
Congratulations, it was a fully-deserved win! PSG didn't turn up tonight and you made them pay, even though the attack wasn't at its best. It wasn't so much about the technical ability or domination tonight but the mental resilience and desire; well played Jose, well played.
 
Congratulations, it was a fully-deserved win! PSG didn't turn up tonight and you made them pay, even though the attack wasn't at its best. It wasn't so much about the technical ability or domination tonight but the mental resilience and desire; well played Jose, well played.

Since he is the first person you praise in a win ... You are more than welcome to make him the first person you criticize in a loss haha
 
1. No it really isn't. Lukaku seems like a sensible guy, and I'm sure he knows that at this stage of his career, playing games is more important than sitting on the bench on a high salary. Maybe I'm wrong, but this is hypothetical, is it not?

2. You can hardly accuse me of taking a narrow-minded view of things. Lukaku and Mourinho have had disagreements this season and Lukaku himself (if I'm not mistaken) has recently said that he would like to join Everton if they Top 4.

3. I'm pretty sure Carra would much rather play for Liverpool than Everton now, in fact, he probably hates the idea of playing for Everton.

1) Except he will get enough games at Chelsea so even in this hypothetical world, your point falls flat

2) They never had any disagreements. Lukaku had nothing but praise for Mourinho all season. Also he said he would consider joining Everton in the top 4 but I don't see how that will happen unless Jose doesn't want him

3) Yes that's because he has become a legend at Liverpool. I am pretty sure he is more of an anomaly rather than a trend. Also you completely ignored my argument about how 'boyhood club' is a factor, even if it isn't the most significant one
 
1) Except he will get enough games at Chelsea so even in this hypothetical world, your point falls flat

2) They never had any disagreements. Lukaku had nothing but praise for Mourinho all season. Also he said he would consider joining Everton in the top 4 but I don't see how that will happen unless Jose doesn't want him

3) Yes that's because he has become a legend at Liverpool. I am pretty sure he is more of an anomaly rather than a trend. Also you completely ignored my argument about how 'boyhood club' is a factor, even if it isn't the most significant one

I'm not sure how you can say for sure that he will get enough games. Hence, the point of him leaving loan, because he wasn't convinced he would get enough games.
 
I'm not sure how you can say for sure that he will get enough games. Hence, the point of him leaving loan, because he wasn't convinced he would get enough games.

That was because when Eto'o came in at the start of this season, there were two strikers ahead of him in the pecking order. Possibly three. After he has proved himself yet again at another EPL team ... Their will probably be only one striker ahead of him next season so he will get enough games. Granted he won't get as many games as he will get at Everton but the difference won't be so huge that he will consider moving clubs
 
That was because when Eto'o came in at the start of this season, there were two strikers ahead of him in the pecking order. Possibly three. After he has proved himself yet again at another EPL team ... Their will probably be only one striker ahead of him next season so he will get enough games. Granted he won't get as many games as he will get at Everton but the difference won't be so huge that he will consider moving clubs

We dont know that for sure. What drives him ( as shown by the interview) is being able to play enough currently. Especially if you go out and buy Diego Costa.
 
We dont know that for sure. What drives him ( as shown by the interview) is being able to play enough currently. Especially if you go out and buy Diego Costa.

So you are basically saying that Lukaku is willing to leave his boyhood club, leave behind the guidance of a manager he calls the 'best in the world' and take a contract worth much less simply so that he can play 5-6 more games at a smaller club where he won't exactly be playing alongside world-class players like Azpilicueta, Hazard and Oscar either
 
I've caught up on the game, quite confused by PSG approach. Same tactics as in the terrible first half of first game, really? First leg they were absolutely brilliant when attacking, but awful when just trying to keep possession. Its a team with a lot of individual talent, but being from weak league they're just not used to dealing with pressing high up the pitch.

You'd think after this experience they would just go out guns blazing and secure the promotion to semis with away goal. But apparently Blanc thought they can just play tippy-tappy football with crowd going 'ole!' for 90 minutes, and get away with it. I don't know wtf he was thinking. Jose read it all well and it paid off in the end.
 
Chelsea play what 50 games every season? Lukaku will get enough games even with Costa and let's face it, he acts so ambitious and all. If he wants to be the best then he has to compete with someone like Costa for minutes. He has to prove himself against the best instead of running off and hiding on loan. That would be a never ending situation

Mourinho will give him opportunities. He just has to grab them. De Bruyne got his opportunities but didn't work hard enough. Azpilicueta got his opportunities and he grabbed them with both hands and now he is the first name on the team sheet. He is keeping a legend like Ashley Cole out of the team. Can't see why Lukaku can't do the same
 
Oh and the issue on Costa ... That guy is a real D bag. Mourinho said this team needed balls next season and he will probably get more than he bargained for with Costa
 
If Luiz could play like he did last night every match, he would be world class. Jose should tell him that this is what he is supposed to do, not shoot from 10 miles and run from goal to goal with the ball.
As stupid as this sounds, i think Hazard would be better if he would stay out a week or two. He seems to me that he is losing form.
 
I'm not sure how you can say for sure that he will get enough games. Hence, the point of him leaving loan, because he wasn't convinced he would get enough games.

And few papers even reported that he asked for a transfer and loan was like a compromise move for both parties.

Romelu Lukaku asked Chelsea for transfer before joining Everton | Football | The Guardian


Btw, Luiz was superb yesterday so was most of Chelsea team, shame though PSG played like ******* and manager lacked balls to attack Chelsea. They had some excellent players like Lavezzi, Lucas, Cavani but played very conservative game which backfired big time.

IMO he should play the same role like he did yesterday along with Matic. That's a solid base to build very good attacking team.
 
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And few papers even reported that he asked for a transfer and loan was like a compromise move for both parties.

Romelu Lukaku asked Chelsea for transfer before joining Everton | Football | The Guardian


Btw, Luiz was superb yesterday so was most of Chelsea team, shame though PSG played like ******* and manager lacked balls to attack Chelsea. They had some excellent players like Lavezzi, Lucas, Cavani but played very conservative game which backfired big time.

IMO he should play the same role like he did yesterday along with Matic. That's a solid base to build very good attacking team.

The article says that Lukaku was dismayed that he would be behind 3 strikers in the pecking order and that's why he asked for a transfer request however, this is something which will not be the case next season. I highly doubt he made a transfer request anyways as he has come out at times this season to say that he never had a problem with Mourinho or Chelsea
 
The article says that Lukaku was dismayed that he would be behind 3 strikers in the pecking order and that's why he asked for a transfer request however, this is something which will not be the case next season. I highly doubt he made a transfer request anyways as he has come out at times this season to say that he never had a problem with Mourinho or Chelsea

Like how Jose in 2007 said it was unfair to sack him and in 2013 said he left Chelsea by mutual consent?

Jose himself said in that interview to ask Lukaku for the reason he was out on loan as Jose was frustrated with everyone saying "hope Jose is watching it".
 
So you are basically saying that Lukaku is willing to leave his boyhood club, leave behind the guidance of a manager he calls the 'best in the world' and take a contract worth much less simply so that he can play 5-6 more games at a smaller club where he won't exactly be playing alongside world-class players like Azpilicueta, Hazard and Oscar either

Actually I didnt say anything of the kind. Ignoring the strawman argument of what you just said, Lukaku has clearly (by his own words) placed more importance on playing regularly, that is all I've said.

You keep say Jose will do this will do that. The whole point is that there is no guarantee of what he will do. That is why he went on loan in the first place! No one knows what Jose will do with the forwards next season, and that will determine what Lukaku does.

Running off and hiding on loan are you serious? You have a seriously flawed view on player development. He is 20, the next two years are vital to his development, playing as much as possible under a coach that develops players well (Martinez) at a good level is one of the best thing you can do to eventually reach the top. Trying to "prove yourself against the best" at that age is an entirely archaic notion. At that age game exposure and off the pitch learning is so, so important (this is where young English talent struggles)

De Bruyne got 3 league starts....
 
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Actually I didnt say anything of the kind. Ignoring the strawman argument of what you just said, Lukaku has clearly (by his own words) placed more importance on playing regularly, that is all I've said.

You keep say Jose will do this will do that. The whole point is that there is no guarantee of what he will do. That is why he went on loan in the first place! No one knows what Jose will do with the forwards next season, and that will determine what Lukaku does.

Running off and hiding on loan are you serious? You have a seriously flawed view on player development. He is 20, the next two years are vital to his development, playing as much as possible under a coach that develops players well (Martinez) at a good level is one of the best thing you can do to eventually reach the top. Trying to "prove yourself against the best" at that age is an entirely archaic notion. At that age game exposure and off the pitch learning is so, so important (this is where young English talent struggles)

De Bruyne got 3 league starts....

And what I am saying that you seem to ignore constantly is that in all likelihood, Lukaku will play regularly next season. All signs have been pointing towards that. Jose wants to completely revamp his strikers. One world-class striker will be brought in. Lukaku will be recalled. Simply saying that their is no guarentee that Jose will play Lukaku simply isn't good enough when Jose actually wanted him to stay this season and Lukaku has only improved since then

The reason why he went on loan was because Lukaku wasn't confident of competing with Eto'o and Torres. No player should expect starts. They have to prove themselves in training and then they will get the opportunities. De Bruyne clearly didn't prove himself in training. Azpilicueta did and look at him now ... Keeping Cole out of the team. Obviously that proves that reputation doesn't matter squat to Jose, it's all about ability and I am sure Lukaku would have been able to keep Eto'o, Torres and Ba out of the team considering the way he is playing at Everton

So using what you yourself said ... Lukaku will get enough games at Chelsea and he will learn plenty off the pitch too from a manager much better than Martinez who is in another league when it comes to player development
 
Like how Jose in 2007 said it was unfair to sack him and in 2013 said he left Chelsea by mutual consent?

Jose himself said in that interview to ask Lukaku for the reason he was out on loan as Jose was frustrated with everyone saying "hope Jose is watching it".

Lukaku asked to go on loan because he wasn't confident of competing with the likes of Torres, Ba and Eto'o for minutes. Jose actually wanted him to stay. That's why Jose was annoyed when everyone was on his back for letting Lukaku go on loan. Fact is that Jose had very little choice in the matter as Lukaku was persistent and it was a WC year
 
Lukaku asked to go on loan because he wasn't confident of competing with the likes of Torres, Ba and Eto'o for minutes. Jose actually wanted him to stay. That's why Jose was annoyed when everyone was on his back for letting Lukaku go on loan. Fact is that Jose had very little choice in the matter as Lukaku was persistent and it was a WC year

I don't know, few papers reported that he asked for a transfer. I don't care either ways as I just posted something I remember reading which might be helpful in this argument.
 
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