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zzeezzy said:
Now I'm one to admire Jose's achievements and he is undoubtedly one of the best managers in the game. But do you guys think that selling De Bruyne now was way too premature and going to be a bad mistake after the season he's just had? Best player in Bundesliga and is good as anyone in the world in his position on his day IMO.

Quite baffling how you let him go so soon, whenever I saw him for Chelsea always thought he was a player who was capable of being special.
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Mourinho has his system and he's broadly sticking to it. Players need to either adapt to it or they're out. I don't agree with that approach (and think it cost us the league in the 13/14) but that's the line he's taking. I think it's fair to call him on that, honestly.
 
Subtle said:
Mourinho has his system and he's broadly sticking to it. Players need to either adapt to it or they're out. I don't agree with that approach (and think it cost us the league in the 13/14) but that's the line he's taking. I think it's fair to call him on that, honestly.
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Yeh indeed, but man, De Bruyne was something else last season an absolute assist machine. Wouldn't surprise me to see him playing for another top team again before long, perhaps even this summer.
 
Chelski Shogun said:
Yeah, I read somewhere that we've offered £35m plus Felipe Luis for Griezmann. Now I don't know if Felipe Luis does want to leave or not, but if he doesn't then I wouldn't get rid of him to be honest. I'd much rather see us offer Salah instead of Felipe Luis, if the rumours are true that is. Personally I'd be happy if we bought Griezmann/ Pedro, Aranguiz and maybe John Stones.
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That would be a **** deal. We'd be selling him a year later for a 1/3rd of what we paid.
 
zzeezzy said:
Now I'm one to admire Jose's achievements and he is undoubtedly one of the best managers in the game. But do you guys think that selling De Bruyne now was way too premature and going to be a bad mistake after the season he's just had? Best player in Bundesliga and is good as anyone in the world in his position on his day IMO.

Quite baffling how you let him go so soon, whenever I saw him for Chelsea always thought he was a player who was capable of being special.
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I've never regretted us selling him to be honest. Mourinho didn't like the look of him, De Bruyne wanted out and Oscar was the better player, it was the most logical choice for everyone involved.
 
Apparently Mourinho has cancelled Mikel's £11m departure from the club. In all honesty watching Mikel annoys the s**t out of me, but he's still an integral part of our squad and I'm glad to hear he'll be staying.
 
Alcaraz said:
Out of curiousity, who do you think we should buy that is available at the moment?
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That's a really interesting question. For me the player either needs to be able to play wide and central am on cm and cam, with a preference for the latter if we sign a single player but absolutely ideally we'd get someone like Schneiderlin + an AM/AMR.

For CAM/AM I would absolutely love Koke, and quietly think he will end up being better than Pogba, but it would take a miracle to get him this year at least so that's doubtful. Speaking of Pogba, he is a possibility although I am wary of changing the entire system just for him. Isco is similarly talented, if more attack oriented and if there is even a whiff of Madrid selling we should bit their hands off. Kovacic is someone I'd also be seriously interested in us looking at, and I feel like if we're looking to add depth and we have the money, that sort of highly promising starlet should more a priority than getting a good deal on someone slightly underrated in their mid to late twenties. Signing someone who plays here would also give Cuadrado the season to come good.

For AMR/AM, if we want worldclass and are willing to pay then it's hard to look past Reus and Griezeman (I want to taste Mike's tears if we sign him :D). I would have liked Sterling at 30m but 50 is ******* madness. Felipe Anderson is a really interesting prospect as was Firmino.

These are all personal preferences though, and there are plenty of other brilliant players we could be getting in those positions if we're willing to drop the cash.
 
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Seriously though, Matic-Koke-Fabregas would be absolutely outrageous. A man can dream :(
 
zzeezzy said:
Now I'm one to admire Jose's achievements and he is undoubtedly one of the best managers in the game. But do you guys think that selling De Bruyne now was way too premature and going to be a bad mistake after the season he's just had? Best player in Bundesliga and is good as anyone in the world in his position on his day IMO.

Quite baffling how you let him go so soon, whenever I saw him for Chelsea always thought he was a player who was capable of being special.
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Hindsight is 20/20. No one at Chelsea ever doubted his potential actually. In fact if you look at interviews by Werder Bremen directors, they say Chelsea scouts are regularly in contact and are extremely happy that De Bruyne has shown what the club knew he was capable off

The problem stemmed from De Bruyne himself. He wanted guarenteed minutes to further his development which is impossible to promise at a club like Chelsea. He wasn't training nearly hard enough as he thought he was. He wanted to leave. We got a good price. Ultimately, it looks like all parties have benefitted. I am sure it will come to bite us in the **** one day as will Lukaku but that's football I guess. Can't win all the time
 
Subtle said:
That's a really interesting question. For me the player either needs to be able to play wide and central am on cm and cam, with a preference for the latter if we sign a single player but absolutely ideally we'd get someone like Schneiderlin + an AM/AMR.

For CAM/AM I would absolutely love Koke, and quietly think he will end up being better than Pogba, but it would take a miracle to get him this year at least so that's doubtful. Speaking of Pogba, he is a possibility although I am wary of changing the entire system just for him. Isco is similarly talented, if more attack oriented and if there is even a whiff of Madrid selling we should bit their hands off. Kovacic is someone I'd also be seriously interested in us looking at, and I feel like if we're looking to add depth and we have the money, that sort of highly promising starlet should more a priority than getting a good deal on someone slightly underrated in their mid to late twenties. Signing someone who plays here would also give Cuadrado the season to come good.

For AMR/AM, if we want worldclass and are willing to pay then it's hard to look past Reus and Griezeman (I want to taste Mike's tears if we sign him :D). I would have liked Sterling at 30m but 50 is ******* madness. Felipe Anderson is a really interesting prospect as was Firmino.

These are all personal preferences though, and there are plenty of other brilliant players we could be getting in those positions if we're willing to drop the cash.
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Koke is impossible sadly. Schneiderlin and Griezzmann would be absolutely ideal. I was really excited when we were being strongly linked to both earlier in the summer. No idea at all why links have gone cold. The optimist in me hopes it's because the club has something up it's sleeves. Hopefully Begovic is sealed soon as well
 
zzeezzy said:
Now I'm one to admire Jose's achievements and he is undoubtedly one of the best managers in the game. But do you guys think that selling De Bruyne now was way too premature and going to be a bad mistake after the season he's just had? Best player in Bundesliga and is good as anyone in the world in his position on his day IMO.

Quite baffling how you let him go so soon, whenever I saw him for Chelsea always thought he was a player who was capable of being special.
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He wasn't Jose's cup of tea simple as that, Jose is a manager who makes his players realise you have to accept his ways not the other way around. De Bruyne seemed to rub him up the wrong way for what ever reason, it was sensational money for a player who had never made an impact for us.
 
Alcaraz said:
Koke is impossible sadly. Schneiderlin and Griezzmann would be absolutely ideal. I was really excited when we were being strongly linked to both earlier in the summer. No idea at all why links have gone cold. The optimist in me hopes it's because the club has something up it's sleeves. Hopefully Begovic is sealed soon as well
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Sorry bro...its schniederlin...herrera...Schweinsteiger
 
Chelski Shogun said:
Matic and Fabregas > Schweinsteiger, Carrick and Schneiderlin.
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No question, but it's a pretty spurious debate when you could make a strong case for each of the big 5 (although I'm no too hot on Arsenal's options) outside of City at present.

All subjective.
 
Why so defensive, I just asked which big 5 clubs are you talking about?
 
sunilvk7 said:
Why so defensive, I just asked which big 5 clubs are you talking about?
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Oh, cute. You, I and everyone else knows full well what you insinuated; but for the sake of board peace and harmony let's just carry on like the first two posts never happened and clarify with Arsenal, Chelsea, L'pool, Utd and City.
 
Legend Incredimaria said:
It's debatable...schniederlin ran you midfield last season and Schweinsteiger is a midfield machine...
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No doubt it's debatable. As things currently stand I'd say you have the best depth in those central midfield positions, however I still rate Matic and Fabregas above anything you have.
 
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